20-12-2004 14:52									#1
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A time in not so distant past

A time that would change the world

A time of mass carnage and confusion

A time of great leaders

A time of leaders also going in the wrong direction

A time of new opportunities

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France - Paddy the Scot

Russia - Grandpa Troll

Austria - Modo44

and some very upset ai

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so there a few changes to the basic scenario

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	20-12-2004 16:24									#2
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Play nicely now. First, the AI, then the others.

Just marking the thread.

	20-12-2004 17:12									#3
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Jan 1800 to Czar Trol IV

please note that there are several turns per year

	22-12-2004 07:36									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot Jan 1800 to Czar Trol IV please note that there are several turns per year

ok..ill play.. ill see in the save I reckon..so do I play one??

ok..Ill just see if I can figure it out

be back soon

Gramps

	22-12-2004 09:17									#5
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you play one, then pass it on



you will do fine

have no fear old chap

	24-12-2004 09:02									#6
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sorry for the delays..1800 to Modo

I am smoking something fierce now

	24-12-2004 12:24									#7
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Congratulations on your new toy, Grandpa Troll. Like one game ad once said: "Say goodbye to your family and friends. You won't be seeing them for a while".

Paddy, do you know the AI difficulty levels in this game?


I have signed a ROP with the Ottomen, to keep one border safe(r).

Prussia and the Ottomen have signed a Mutual Protection Pact.


March 1800 to Paddy.

	24-12-2004 14:22									#8
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Modo, they should be all "ANY" as it is basically the same game as "Gunslingers"

onto GpT Mar 1800

	24-12-2004 14:27									#9
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So, what difficulty did you choose, when starting the scenario? This one will probably apply to everyone with the "any" flag...

	24-12-2004 14:34									#10
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Have you ever played in the editor?

there are several areas that you change when setting the ai

1. in the Scenario properties - Players
in here you can choose for each ai what level - all the way to SID.
these were deliberatly set at ANY
this allows all level of players to enter the field of battle as equals
thus more experienced players do not get set advantages on KNOWING the oppositions game plays etc
This is the RANDOM setting for each civ

2. in the Edit Rules - AI Agression Level
this was set at SID

so this way the ai mixes the various tables up, and we are kept on our toes for some time trying to get a grasp on what and where the ai is coming from

hope that helps

PS. in starting a scenario you do not get the opportunity to choose which level the game is played at, as you would do in starting an "Epic" game

	24-12-2004 16:31									#11
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Every time I try, with different options, the game always defaults to Regent in a scenario. Tried to turn on debug mode, to see how it works, and no options seem to be able to change it.

Remember the Mesoamerican Conquest? To have it at Emperor difficulty, I had to edit the save, after starting the game. No options in the editor worked.

	24-12-2004 16:38									#12
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which program did you use to edit the save?

as to the editor we have played many edited scenarios

have a chat with Chrisius about "Its a Mad Word"

another to talk to Chrisius about is "The Silk Road"

	24-12-2004 16:46									#13
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Civ3MultiTool, by Gramphos. It crashes sometimes, but only sometimes.

If there is a trick in the editor, I'll find it myself.

The Silk Road is an epic game, right? Those can be set to any level without problems.

Last edited by Modo44 on 24-12-2004 at 17:09

	24-12-2004 17:25									#14
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ahhh the Civ3Multitool

I am not a big fan of it

Do you like it?

What about it do you like, if so?

	24-12-2004 17:36									#15
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I only used it for simple things, like adding advanced units for a quick check of new graphics. Good enough to do that, and I don't need much more. I prefer to play the game.

I made a scenario with default difficulty set to Sid, and all players set to Sid difficulty as well. Started a PBEM with it. Guess what, the AI still has normal Regent production (no bonuses). When I loaded the save in C3MT, the overall difficulty was Regent, and all players had Sid on them. Only after altering the save - changing overall difficulty to Sid - did the production bonus kick in. This means we are playing a Regent AI for most purposes (most important: they have no production bonus).

	24-12-2004 17:39									#16
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oh bugger

well shall we stop this here then

start a bloody good epic game which we can be assured of is cranked up at SID level

regent on two player sux

	24-12-2004 18:07									#17
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I think we should, yes. Regent is just too darned easy. The AI is bad enough at scenarios anyway. Perhaps make it Emperor, or Demigod, depending on what Grandpa Troll thinks.

	24-12-2004 18:24									#18
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Gramps we await your word

	24-12-2004 20:44									#19
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I just wanna play

Do what ya want and Ill follow..I am still learning and just love to play

March 1800

	24-12-2004 21:18									#20
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Restarting should be easier to do. It's only one turn into the game - no biggie. I think Demigod should be ok. Paddy, you would have to edit the save after you make the first moves. Just change the difficulty setting, and that should do it.

After you return from that beautiful beach, I mean.

	24-12-2004 21:44									#21
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ok..so this one is dead and we will start another, correct?

Gramps

	24-12-2004 21:57									#22
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Yes, I think so. Regent is really too easy, especially in a scenario. We'd start clobbering each other too soon.

But the name can remain unchanged, we can use the same nations, and we can use this thread as well. Only the AI wil be tougher. Anyway, we have to wait for Paddy's return to seal the deal.

I'm gone as well, for tonight. Have a good Christmas.

	24-12-2004 22:14									#23
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you too

Peace

Gramps

	31-12-2004 13:07									#24
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so is this dead in the water??

	31-12-2004 13:39									#25
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It is to be restarted, with the save edit to get the difficulty up. I can do it, if I get the scenario file. You know the drill.

	31-12-2004 13:43									#26
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sending it soon

	31-12-2004 15:18									#27
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Game started. Had to switch places with some Frenchman, to get my first turn done, to have a save to edit. It's Sid, so beware of the unhappiness.

Please update the turn order. It's:

Modo
Grandpa Troll
Paddy the Scot


January 1800 AD to Grandpa Troll.

	31-12-2004 22:09									#28
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what changes did you make then::

	31-12-2004 23:00									#29
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Austria is first, France is last. The first player always gets to start in a PBEM, so moving Austria up front was the only way to get a clean save. Don't worry, I moved the technology, and changed the governments.

I have to go now. You know, it's this time of year again. Another party to attend to.

	01-01-2005 03:25									#30
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1800 Jan to Paddy