21-12-2004 02:29									#1
	1275 AD Orders - Jackson or Dye Fields? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Situation on turn 1275 AD:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=26621_CACTUS-1270AD.jpg


There were 8 tanks built last turn, and 7 new tanks being built this one. We can chain 2 transports which means 15 new tanks can reach Port Sacrifice. Lego has no chance of taking Port Sacrifice and we have another city NE-NE of Abeline down south (see pic in last turn report pics), Fort Spinebreaker which is defended by 8 tanks. The remaining tanks are scattered among the ruins of the Lego cities razed (again, see last turn report pics).

As you can see from this pic, Lego has 15 available tanks plus 2 more possible though only perhaps 1 is likely since our bombing of Jackson's tiles most surely will leave it without the necessary shields to complete it. Those 15 tanks however, have 1 or 2 HP left and its unlikely they can take either of the two cities. Btw, there's a little error in the pic, Dye Fields only has 11 tanks, not 15.

All tanks NOT in Port Sacrifice will be cut off if Lego decides to cut the railroad W of Port Sacrifice. This means only the 20 tanks in PS plus the 15 tanks from home can take the city. The city will be attacked by 10 bombers and almost 40 artillery, unless Lego decides to sortie its fleet at Jackson (2 BBs, 2 DDs) which means the carriers will have to be used against the fleet and not the city.

Abeline is defended by 50 infantry. After we take Jackson and Dye Fields we will likely cooperate with artillery bombardments but I do not support sending a single unit against the city as that is GS's "area of operations". Our artillery could very well reduce it to size 6 in a couple of turns giving GS better odds. Still, a lot of GS tanks will likely be lost in the battle, hopefully leaving a better tank ratio among us (currently it's 58 (or a bit less) them - 48 us)

	21-12-2004 03:14									#2
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Oh one more thing... I will need a replacement for the 24th of december to the 7th of January. I will be doing a Paris-Berlin-Madrid tour and coming back from Madrid with another friend (hot chick btw ) so I really won't have time until the 10th.

Any volunteers? It'll be vacation time which means turn playing will be rather slow and I don't honestly see any more than 3 turns being played during that time.

	21-12-2004 08:39									#3
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I havent opened the save for a long time...

Does Lego have marines / transports ?
I'd hate for them to rush one up and send them against our bombers on Zen Island.
The bombers are protected by one cav right ?

Lego are going to fight it out to the end right ?
So expect sneaky damaging play.


I think we need to kill their ships.
Probably hiding in Jackson ?
Or are they in open water now ?
If in Jackson. Take that city first.

Do we have the dyes hooked up ?
One dye is within Ports Sacrifices borders that I can see.
Is it connecting through a Vox harbor ?


How long before ND attacks GS ?
With the Lego war won, GS will be beefing up their home defenses like mad, making it even more difficult.

I hate having Roleplay settled in old Legoland.
They still plot our downfall. I can feel it in my bones.


I cant commit to anything over xmas...sorry.
2 kids & a wife demand my attention.

A simple turn play with a provided build spreadsheet, I can probably handle.
But if there is a war...I am never going to find the 3 hours without constant interuption.

	21-12-2004 13:39									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel I havent opened the save for a long time... Does Lego have marines / transports ? I'd hate for them to rush one up and send them against our bombers on Zen Island. The bombers are protected by one cav right ?

Yes, the bombers are protected by a Cav, and Lego still has transports though we destroyed at least one when we took Port Hammer, there are 3 right besides the old city of Invoice. I don't seriously think they have a shot of landing on Zen Island at least on this turn.

quote: Lego are going to fight it out to the end right ? So expect sneaky damaging play.

Yep, though not likely as carefully planned as when Vondrack was playing. This turn (read the battle report) was quite sloppy for them.

quote: I think we need to kill their ships. Probably hiding in Jackson ? Or are they in open water now ? If in Jackson. Take that city first.

According to the report they attacked and sunk some of our escorts. If they are in the open, they will be carrier-fodder. If they go back to Jackson they will be destroyed now that we assault the city.

quote: Do we have the dyes hooked up ? One dye is within Ports Sacrifices borders that I can see. Is it connecting through a Vox harbor ?

I need to check the F2 screen next turn for that...

quote: How long before ND attacks GS ? With the Lego war won, GS will be beefing up their home defenses like mad, making it even more difficult.

ND is still about 8 turns from creating a viable mega-army. Still, vs. Mech Infs that will not likely be of much use. I'm starting to think that we'll need a nuclear war to take out GS.

quote: I hate having Roleplay settled in old Legoland. They still plot our downfall. I can feel it in my bones. I cant commit to anything over xmas...sorry. 2 kids & a wife demand my attention. A simple turn play with a provided build spreadsheet, I can probably handle. But if there is a war...I am never going to find the 3 hours without constant interuption.

No prob., any other volunteers?

	21-12-2004 19:29									#5
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hm? wha? gah?


I'm on vacation from the 24th till the 3rd of Jan.

Just expect us to be at war with everyone by then...

Seriously, I would need some information first, like what all is needed to do with ND and GS, if anything special. (chats, etc) Haven't seen a save in my inbox since before we invaded RP, though.

A build spreadsheet would be helpfull, I even finally have excel at home.

	22-12-2004 02:28									#6
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Good, then UnO it shall be

I will provide a spreadsheet with all necessary builds. I'll try and hammer out the diplomacy these days too. With regards to the war, it should take, for us, no more than 3 more turn, take Jackson next turn, heal, take Dye Fields, c'est fini.

	22-12-2004 03:04									#7
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Mwuahahaha!

GoN is about to get a facelift...

Violence in GoW capitol, MZ forcibly removed.

Last edited by UnOrthOdOx on 22-12-2004 at 03:11

	22-12-2004 04:44									#8
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Yeah, don't forget to make a Chrsitmas special

	23-12-2004 02:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX Correction: that's NO ONE'S artillery anymore

So... They have given up then ?
Disbanding all of their artillary to avoid us capturing them.

Should make our final assault a little easier.

	23-12-2004 14:03									#10
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No, those were 5 artillery pieces that we could not defend last turn so I left them out in the open outside Port Sacrifice. Lego still has 26 Artys in Dye Fields and Jackson... which of course will be ours once we capture them

	23-12-2004 17:31									#11
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Facing impossible odds, a team could disband all artillary rather than allow their conquerors take them.

ND's spy should be able to tell us...right ?

	23-12-2004 18:18									#12
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yeah but I'd still rather not spend ND's gold at this stage... regardless or not that they disband their Arty, we have to take Jackson.

Btw, we have like 2000g right now, I think it's a GoW record

	24-12-2004 02:46									#13
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I have never used a spy before ...

I thought it gave you another teams list of total military for free ?

ie 26 art, 20 inf etc etc
Not by city...just a total.

Or is that a spy mission ?


I ask, because in the DoN PBEM, Vondrack told me he left his coastal cities unprotected, because he knew I didnt have any marines. I knew he had a spy in me ... I just didnt know what info he was gathering.

	24-12-2004 02:54									#14
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Totals on them being planted are free.

Not sure whether that's updated freely or not, though.

	24-12-2004 04:10									#15
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Ta

	25-12-2004 11:57									#16
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Thread up with orders for the next couple of turns, see ya all 'lata

	30-12-2004 04:03									#17
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Email from ND

quote: We need to chat! it's important, when have you time? zeri

	30-12-2004 18:47									#18
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Surfing from a museum PC in Berlin...

... someone please e-mail them and tell them 1) when we can chat (UnO? ) or 2) that I am away and won´t be back until the 7th...

	30-12-2004 18:48									#19
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Oh and the save password is "Daisypuff"

	30-12-2004 20:16									#20
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HE emailed, I responded this morning.

	30-12-2004 20:35									#21
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Panzer also emailed, and ND sent me from their team email account, which was filtered as spam...

Apparantly "lego has no cities anymore" and ND wants to know what they're getting.

Chat attempt 1:

quote: Just till MZ comes back on the 7th. Best time for me would be after 10:30 Eastern, but that's pretty odd timing for you IIRC. Let's see, I can be on for about an hour or two at noon my time (mountain, 2 PM eastern.) IIRC that was pretty close to the 'standard' weekly chat time a while ago. Though I don't recall the room name we have been using. I'll set one up #GoWND pass fruitcake. If you beat me, go ahead and make the room as well. If the time doesn't work, let me know.

	30-12-2004 23:36									#22
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quote: This turn isn't so important that we need to chat before i play the turn. So i will discribe you what we will do this turn (i think you got the infos about Legos destroyed cities from GS). We will build some settlers for the lego-land, but we can be there first in about four turns, no transporter near the lego-land. We need to discuss now how we will play against GS before the war and how our alliance will protect Vox (UN?) Also we have to chat with Vox, they are scientific and can choose a free tech for eatch time-age. After i read the comments of Lego about RP, it looks like RP will settle on the lego-land, too. For us it's really bad that magellan is lost, we must create a new plan. to fight against GS. With the save i will send more infos. Sorry for my english, i do my best zeri

	31-12-2004 01:07									#23
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Well, try and negotiate with Vox to get the free tech. As for land, well obviously there are no cities left on Lego but tell ND this: GS wants Roleplay to have a slice so we will counter by letting ND have a slice also. GoW and GS will split lego 50-50 and each of us decides what to do with our half and who to "invite" to settle there also.

Vox was supposed to PM me a few days ago but I´ve got nothing, maybe you can get more lucky.

	31-12-2004 20:46									#24
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quote: 150 gold to you this turn 100 gold to GS (500 last turn) for computer. You haven't this tech, have you a tech-deal with GS about this tech? If not, we can give you the tech in the turn we declares war on GS how many gold do you need each turn? we must upgrade our Infs in the next turns, we need them for the invasion. 40 gold per upgrade, we have +299gpt Other point: Techdeal with Vox, they haven't radio as the only tech before modern age. Can you make a deal with them (if i'm right, you want to speak with them about UN) Next one: We have one settler and builds now two more for the lego-land, what will you do in this area? And what will GS and RP does? Our Ansar see no ships next your coast, but it's interesting that GS fortify 2 MechInfs on the hills in RP-land.... We should discuss an attack on GS from two sites, we can attack at Whirlwind, if you can attack in the same turn Santa Barbara, you can kick out RP and i hope conquer the cities of GS we can't before you Nine turns to Rocketry at our site. Mil GS: 4 Settler 21 Worker 5 Explorer 12 Marine 14 Inf 56 Tank 67 MechInf 14 Ari 2 Galley 11 Transporter 2 Carrier 2 Submarine 6 Destroyer 2 Fighter Mil Lego (Anarchy): 3 Settler 41 Inf 8 Tank 10 Ari 6 Ironclad 7 Transporter 1 Carrier 5 Submarine 6 Destroyer 2 Battleship Mil ND: 1 Settler (+1) 44 Worker 12 Marine 14 Cavalry 64 Inf 19 Tank (+8) 1 Frigate 13 Transporter 4 Destroyer (+3) 1 Battleship 17 Bomber (+2) 4 Ansar