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Transport all troops from Italy in Sicily 2 11.76%
transport 2-3 garrisons and send the rest to the north 10 58.82%
Don't transport soldiers. Our glorious armies may handle the situation there 6 35.29%
Build more Galleys 4 23.53%
Don't build galleys, better build troops 8 47.06%
Buy garrisons to defend the new Iberian colonies 9 52.94%
Rush courthouses and marketplaces in Iberia. The troops will come from Italy 7 41.18%
Settle to the east 8 47.06%
Settle to the west 12 70.59%
Attack the Barbarians calling themselves Goths 5 29.41%
Leave the Goths and start destroying the Celts 2 11.76%
Don't make war with the northern barbarians 9 52.94%
Total: 17 voters 100%
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The inspectors have traveled through all our glorious empire and returned with detailed reports.

Currently the carthagians are sending massive fleets around Sicily and Corsica. We have good number of troops there and there are lots of garrisons on the continent who may be transported this turn. The question is: Do we need all these troops to be transported there or they will be more useful at the northern border?
Our inspectors reported for a large macedonian fleet near Sicily too. Currently we have good relations with them but how long will they last it is unknown. I will not enter a war with Macedonia, so I'll not ask what to do with the greeks. I want to hear what the senators are thinking about the troops in Southern Italy.

The second problem our inspectors have seen is the amount of war ships we have. Currently they are exactly 4 with 2 of on their way to the Dyes island (Cyprus). This means we have only two galleys to transport troops between the islands. Should we build more galleys or we don't need ships now?

The third problem is our expansion. Although most of our cities are building armies some of them are preparing new groups of citizens to create new towns. Where should these towns be placed? More to the east or the west, in Iberia? Or between the loosy placed macedonian cities?

I'll need more troops for the western campaign against Carthage. I can't see their dreadful war elephants but I'm sure we will meet them with our couragous legions and we will beat them. The question is should we buy the troops in the new conquered cities (mainly garrisons) to defend the captured cities or we should try to rush some improvements there and the troops will come from Italy?

Last big concern - our northern borders. We are at war with the goths now. Should we attack them? Or should we leave them and start a war with the more powerful Celts? Or just defend our cities until the western campaign is under control and we have defended our cities better?

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Good poll

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I would ask why one would not want to not have more Galleys..at the very least they could form an Armada around our transporting fleet

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Ditto @con.

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It does look like we have a multitude of opinions, tell me, whom does have the actual final say?
I am experiencing my first go 'rund here, just trying to learn the Politburo and its benefits

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The emperor has the last word, i.e. me
I have asked some questions and to keep it simple all answers were put in one thread. You have to vote only for one answer from every group.

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If there is a majority, that option wins. If there is no majority, the Emperor gets to make the final decision.

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If there is a majority, that option wins. If there is no majority, the Emperor gets to make the final decision.


It would be nice if we threw a twist in..hanging chads sort of thingey and still the Emperor did what he pleased..like modern day America

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Actually, the Emperor is still free under the rules to override a decision heavilly favored by the majority.

All these polls are advisory only.

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If there is a majority, that option wins. If there is no majority, the Emperor gets to make the final decision.

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ok..sounds like some fun..I believe I will be around..to be a conscience for the Emperor

or a P@!N in da @r$e



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Actually, the Emperor is still free under the rules to override a decision heavilly favored by the majority.

All these polls are advisory only.

Didn't we have this discussion already? Micromanagement (i.e. precise city locations) does not belong to the Senate, that has been established (unfortunately). BUT general directions belong to the Senate. For example, if we agree that Rome should settle north, the Emperor has to do so. He can change this only if there are serious reasons that would make settling north dangerous at this moment. The Emperor cannot just say "Bah, I do it my way".

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Didn't we have this discussion already? Micromanagement (i.e. precise city locations) does not belong to the Senate, that has been established (unfortunately). BUT general directions belong to the Senate. For example, if we agree that Rome should settle north, the Emperor has to do so. He can change this only if there are serious reasons that would make settling north dangerous at this moment. The Emperor cannot just say "Bah, I do it my way".


well.. The Emperor could simply state he has .."On Reliable sources loyal to him" that it would be bad to settle there...

Then that would simply nullify any work done by the senate..

again..sounds amazingly like modern day America

Gramps

The still sounds like a great storyline to write..even with the backstabbing going on..yes I do like being the subversive role

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well.. The Emperor could simply state he has .."On Reliable sources loyal to him" that it would be bad to settle there...

Then that would simply nullify any work done by the senate..

No, he couldn't. We have The Sacred Save, and we know what is happening.


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again..sounds amazingly like modern day America



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The still sounds like a great storyline to write..even with the backstabbing going on..yes I do like being the subversive role

[ooc] This whole game is one big story, written in the forums. And a good one. [/ooc]

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(I tried winging on another not so famous story a kind of subversive plot and well..it was caught in the fan blades and when she broke.. )

There was $h!t everywhere

Ok..back to this storyline..

Ill just keep snooping along..

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The Emperor cannot just say "Bah, I do it my way".


Pardon me, but the Emperor can say that. He has exactly that right, as he is the Emperor. This precedent has already been established, and the Senate backed one of the earlier Emperors who was brave enough to show leadership in this regard.

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Pardon me, but the Emperor can say that. He has exactly that right, as he is the Emperor. This precedent has already been established, and the Senate backed one of the earlier Emperors who was brave enough to show leadership in this regard.


(we can also dig up dirt on the emperor or even snow him under with so-called "official duties" ) Yes yes indeed well, we have some independant thinkers here do we?

(is this a dictatorship or democracy game all? )

ok.then it is settled..we can all work together, now can we?

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Pardon me, but the Emperor can say that. He has exactly that right, as he is the Emperor. This precedent has already been established, and the Senate backed one of the earlier Emperors who was brave enough to show leadership in this regard.

Yes, but only because the majority agreed on that move, after it was made. I was referring to a situation, when an Emperor would just do whatever he pleases without explanation.

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Yes, but only because the majority agreed on that move, after it was made. I was referring to a situation, when an Emperor would just do whatever he pleases without explanation.


ok in that particular situation..but whats to say an Emperor wont see it "our" way and decide to go "HIS" way?

I say..we need more Senatorial Veto Power..

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ok in that particular situation..but whats to say an Emperor wont see it "our" way and decide to go "HIS" way?

We have good carpenters in Roma. They make nice big crosses for such occasions.

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I say..we need more Senatorial Veto Power..

The Emperor makes polls, and asks question, and in general, all rulers have followed the Senate's will. If the polls are clear, why a need to Veto things? That could very well stall any decisions of the Senate, and of the Emperor.

IF you have a concern, then speak up, and it will be heard. It always has been in this place, so please, don't worry Senator.


[EDIT: I think a part of this discussion should be on the Senate Floor, not here. ]

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We have good carpenters in Roma. They make nice big crosses for such occasions.


The Emperor makes polls, and asks question, and in general, all rulers have followed the Senate's will. If the polls are clear, why a need to Veto things? That could very well stall any decisions of the Senate, and of the Emperor.

IF you have a concern, then speak up, and it will be heard. It always has been in this place, so please, don't worry Senator.


[EDIT: I think a part of this discussion should be on the Senate Floor, not here. ]


indeed it should be

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hmm..I am a Senator with a long History of getting my way..I will go to the senate floor..and he can build me a niuce temple with carpeneters..and spell VETO on the entrance way

Ok..Senate Floor it is

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