24-12-2004 09:17									#1
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Last thanksgiving, on Shabbat (saturday) watching POTM play Risk with her ultraorthodox Jewish cousins.


Now these are girls who dont watch TV, who wear ankle length dress with wrist length sleeves even in summer, and who will all get married when theyre 20 and start having LOTS of babies. Conservative doesnt begin to describe it. And THEY were the ones who had the game and taught POTM (the future doctor-writer-scientist-whatever) to play. (board games are popular, since you can play them on shabbat, when many other activities are off limits) Of course I DID make an effort, while kibbitzing, to get them to stop saying "Im attacking from here to here" and instead say "im attacking from eastern australia to new guinea" - they might as well learn some GEOGRAPHY (which i rather doubt their ultraorthodox girls schools are strong on)

	24-12-2004 09:27									#2
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a lot, but not all, conservative SDA families also play games like Risk on the Sabbath

my uncle and his familiy on the other hand, do not (he will only allow his kids to play religious focused games)

Jon Miller

	24-12-2004 09:29									#3
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Make them play AD&D next

	24-12-2004 09:31									#4
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Nah, A&A

	24-12-2004 09:33									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller a lot, but not all, conservative SDA families also play games like Risk on the Sabbath

a striking, if not surprising, cultural parallel. A frummie (Ultraorthodox) vs SDA tournament?

quote: my uncle and his familiy on the other hand, do not (he will only allow his kids to play religious focused games)

Wow,now THATS frum They must be Satmar

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	24-12-2004 09:36									#6
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quote: my uncle and his familiy on the other hand, do not (he will only allow his kids to play religious focused games)

Such as?

Is it something like "The Cardinal did it in the Monastary with the Chalice"?

	24-12-2004 09:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Make them play AD&D next

Funny thing is, back home in modern land, POTM and her best friends from the synagogue religious school like to play a fantasy role playing game they made up, that seems loosely based on D&D (but without rolling any dice - its not just kids playing though - they have magic items, powers, domains, etc, and now at least 2 web BBs)

	24-12-2004 09:41									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker quote: my uncle and his familiy on the other hand, do not (he will only allow his kids to play religious focused games) Such as? Is it something like "The Cardinal did it in the Monastary with the Chalice"?

we own "Tradition" a trivial pursuit knock off on Jewish themes. when the POTM was young there was Jewish holiday bingo. Im still contemplating my Maccabees scenario for Civ2

and then theres the game i really want - Judasim - where you play as the board of directors of a the conservative or reform movement, and determine how many resources to put in synagogues, schools, outreach programs etc, and you monitor conversions, intermarriage rates, etc

	24-12-2004 09:54									#10
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stuff like trivial pursuit, but with Bible questions

there were a lot of others also (like hangman but with a bible verse, and bible pictionary, etc... for a few years my parents were of themore conservative set)

sa far as it goes, I had made up many RPG type games with legos and other tools pre my discovery of DnD (and after I discovered DnD, I thought that Pen and Paper RPGs were stupid for a logn length of time)

now they did get a lot more RPG like, and less adventure like, after I discovered Moria

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	24-12-2004 11:30									#11
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Funny thing is, back home in modern land, POTM and her best friends from the synagogue religious school like to play a fantasy role playing game they made up, that seems loosely based on D&D (but without rolling any dice - its not just kids playing though - they have magic items, powers, domains, etc, and now at least 2 web BBs)

Cool

	24-12-2004 20:37									#12
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Who or what is POTM?

	24-12-2004 21:02									#13
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Princess Of The Mark.

	24-12-2004 21:13									#14
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Who is also daughter of Lord of the Mark (if I understand correctly).

	24-12-2004 21:57									#15
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Is this thread about Risk, or is it about geography? Or is it about the jewish religion?

	24-12-2004 22:04									#16
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P.S. don't forget to see our risk thread in the classic games forum.

	25-12-2004 05:16									#17
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quote: while kibbitzing,

[JamesCagney(?)]
You dirty rat!!!

quote: stuff like trivial pursuit, but with Bible questions

Opening ones mind to new things

	26-12-2004 09:51									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Who is also daughter of Lord of the Mark (if I understand correctly).

you and nikolai are both correct.

	26-12-2004 09:53									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Is this thread about Risk, or is it about geography? Or is it about the jewish religion?

Its about a group of girls in one of the most gender segregated societies in the US, playing Risk, a game of WORLD CONQUEST. Its thereby about Risk, Jewish religion and culture, teaching kids geography, etc. My favorite threads are about gaming in a broader context. Thats what this is.

	28-12-2004 23:56									#20
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Oi!