01-01-2005 10:36									#1
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OK, So I have no idea what the "I Found Her" title is all about, but I've been playing with it. Thanks to my brother giving me his castoff SIS-315 video card, the game isn't a slideshow anymore.

it's kind of hard, though. I spent some time learning the controls, then spent some time trying to control the Starfury. I banged into various objects for a while, and even slammed full tilt into the jumpgate once.

The problem I've been having lately is getting lost in hyperspace. I keep losing the proxima beam while looking for the lost ship. after that, you might as well forget it.

Am I the only one playing this?

BTW, it's a free download from ifh.firstones.com

	01-01-2005 10:42									#2
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Mmm I will check it out when I can.

	01-01-2005 13:26									#3
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Awesome find, I dled it and played through, and I have to say, flying through hyperspace is a *****. You have to use auto pilot or you will totally lose the beacons. I spent about a 6th of my fuel putzing around there. Inertia will kill you in there, I wasn't realizing what was going on at first because it is disorienting in there.

Anyway, I auto-piloted that way, and i eventually passed the ship(was going about 7k/s at the time so there it is, and there it goes). The ship blows up and dies anyway, so after that you have to go back to the io beacon.

Then you get to fighting, 2 on 1, thus far the best i've managed is to get 1 kill but then get plastered by the other guy.

	01-01-2005 19:23									#4
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Do you get to fight the shadows?

	01-01-2005 19:27									#5
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Autopilot, eh?

I haven't used it yet. the instructor said to use it to get to the jumpgate in normal space, but I didn't know what key to use and it's not on the keyboard layout they kindly sent with it.

I suppose it's in the control setup section somewhere.

I got to the jumpgate by pushing down the throttle and hoping. I was giong way too fast to slow down and that's how I slammed into the jumpgate, with the instructor screaming at me the las couple of seconds...

I tried the hyperspace once on inertial, once on cruise. lost the beam to proxima both times. any advice on speed in Hyperspace? the readme says don't go too fast or too slow. is 1k/sec about right?

	01-01-2005 19:31									#6
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Haven't seen any shadows, and consider it unlikely since the timeline is about 5 years before B5 goes online. The shadows weren't being public at all back then. My guess is the most that'll happen is passing one in hyperspace.

I think the time is even before the Icarus landed on Z'Ha'Dum.

So it's unlikely.

	01-01-2005 19:34									#7
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Fly to Z'Ha'Dum and see what happens.

	01-01-2005 20:55									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast Autopilot, eh? I haven't used it yet. the instructor said to use it to get to the jumpgate in normal space, but I didn't know what key to use and it's not on the keyboard layout they kindly sent with it. I suppose it's in the control setup section somewhere. I got to the jumpgate by pushing down the throttle and hoping. I was giong way too fast to slow down and that's how I slammed into the jumpgate, with the instructor screaming at me the las couple of seconds... I tried the hyperspace once on inertial, once on cruise. lost the beam to proxima both times. any advice on speed in Hyperspace? the readme says don't go too fast or too slow. is 1k/sec about right?

yea its ctrl a, press esc and go to the control setup options, theres all kinds of stuff that scares me there . In there set throttle increase to shift w and throttle decrease to shift s. what this lets you do is set the speed your engines will try to achieve in cruise mode so you don't have to hold down the w button.

quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Fly to Z'Ha'Dum and see what happens.

There is no hyperspace beacon from sol to Z'Ha'Dum unfortunately they shadows don't maintain that for us, what a bunch of bastards. Plus they don't have an earth force jump gate in the system so the fighters we have can't exit.

	01-01-2005 20:56									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast Haven't seen any shadows, and consider it unlikely since the timeline is about 5 years before B5 goes online. The shadows weren't being public at all back then. My guess is the most that'll happen is passing one in hyperspace. I think the time is even before the Icarus landed on Z'Ha'Dum. So it's unlikely.

it talks a lot abour commerce raiders in the actual campaign, it is entirely possible that we will eventually run in to the shadows, and knowing our abilities to fly in zero gees we will then most likely run into the shadows

	01-01-2005 21:01									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast Autopilot, eh? I haven't used it yet. the instructor said to use it to get to the jumpgate in normal space, but I didn't know what key to use and it's not on the keyboard layout they kindly sent with it. I suppose it's in the control setup section somewhere. I got to the jumpgate by pushing down the throttle and hoping. I was giong way too fast to slow down and that's how I slammed into the jumpgate, with the instructor screaming at me the las couple of seconds... I tried the hyperspace once on inertial, once on cruise. lost the beam to proxima both times. any advice on speed in Hyperspace? the readme says don't go too fast or too slow. is 1k/sec about right?

The time I crashed, it was into him

Let auto-pilot handle it, even doing that there were portions of the trip that the proxima beacon was only at 20% strength, I don't think you can fly the whole way at 100% strength. I guess you have to angle yourself right on top of it but I can not do that. Also auto-pilot does the calculations for speed so it will ramp up and then turn down as you get closer to the destination, it rocks. The beacons are millions of meters apart so speed will ramp up fast, as I said I got up to about 7.5k/sec. that said you don't fly to the sol-cooke deal, once you get back to io beacon(god that thing saved my twice when I lost all the beacons...) it gets you to cooke automatically.

	01-01-2005 22:06									#11
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Oh dear god, I just beat the first 2 fighters from alpha group, and I was maybe one hit away from death, but I thought, yay I'm done! Guess again: "Here comes the next two, be careful, these guys are better then the last ones" I got a hit in, then beta 1 got one in, then I died.

	02-01-2005 01:54									#12
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I'll have to check into this...

I was incredibly disappointed when the B5 space combat sim was cancelled years ago.

	02-01-2005 05:05									#13
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well I know more about Hyperspace travel now. It is possible to ride the beam, but you have to stay at a "Safe" speed. Slower then a certain amount and the currents carry you away, faster and inertia kills you if you try to correct your course. generally between 2 and 3k is safe if you don't want to just turn it over to the auto pilot.

	02-01-2005 07:13									#14
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Fly to Z'Ha'Dum and see what happens.

[KOSH]
If you go to Z'ha'dum, you will die.
[/KOSH]

	02-01-2005 09:08									#15
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Alright I've started mapping out hyperspace since I saw in the forums that there was actually stuff. I'll try to make it there.

	02-01-2005 09:41									#16
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Here's the keyboard layout. It's a zipped .jpeg because it's almost 1600 pixels wide and I didn't want to reduce it for fear of making it unreadable.

Attachment: ifh_keyboard.zip
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	02-01-2005 16:00									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs [KOSH] If you go to Z'ha'dum, you will die. [/KOSH]

Cool, let's try that then.

	02-01-2005 19:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha yea its ctrl a, press esc and go to the control setup options, theres all kinds of stuff that scares me there . In there set throttle increase to shift w and throttle decrease to shift s. what this lets you do is set the speed your engines will try to achieve in cruise mode so you don't have to hold down the w button.

I thought that's what the + and - keys were for. use them in cruise mode and you can set your speed, and then wait for your ship to achieve that speed. I set it for 1k/sec and it held it there just fine.

	02-01-2005 19:39									#19
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs [KOSH] If you go to Z'ha'dum, you will die. [/KOSH]

If you recall, Sheridan did go to Z'Ha'Dum, and died there.

	02-01-2005 21:18									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast If you recall, Sheridan did go to Z'Ha'Dum, and died there.

yea but that won't happen to us...

	03-01-2005 13:14									#21
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Alright, made it to Alpha Omega in the training, nothing happened,however there is a map for that jump point, so I'll try going there in the campaign hyperspace mission(which thankfully starts closer to AO, I had to go all the way from sol, and it was a long ass trip).

quote: Originally posted by Father Beast I thought that's what the + and - keys were for. use them in cruise mode and you can set your speed, and then wait for your ship to achieve that speed. I set it for 1k/sec and it held it there just fine.

I didn't see that, if it works it works. But I like the shift w setup because its right over the w key. by the way, mastering flight in inertial mode is the key to not dieing instantly in dogfights it seems.

	03-01-2005 20:32									#22
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OK, I guess autopilot is the key to hyperspace. I used it and never lost the beacon. I was actually past turnover going about 10k/sec when I heard the death cry of the Enchanter. they told me to get back to Sol, but by the time I slowed down, I was already to Proxima. There was a beacon from there to Cooke, so I took that. he still complained that I needed to get back to Sol, though. I guess once I got back to Sol from Cooke, then I was instantly transported back to Cooke.

Anyway, I did some plaing around next to the proxima beacon. it seems you can't get much closer than 1000 meters from the beacon. the autopilot sets it to 200m/sec when you get close and that maintains a constant distance of about 2000 meters. It's like there's some kind of repulsor field that keeps you away.

Also, while at the proxima beacon, I couldn't find how to get to the jumpgate. Neither at the Cooke beacon. I was hoping he would show me how when we got there, but it was automatic

I'll try more practicing with inertial flight. the nice thing is that you don't go back to zero whenever you let up on the throttle.

	03-01-2005 22:30									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast OK, I guess autopilot is the key to hyperspace. I used it and never lost the beacon. I was actually past turnover going about 10k/sec when I heard the death cry of the Enchanter. they told me to get back to Sol, but by the time I slowed down, I was already to Proxima. There was a beacon from there to Cooke, so I took that. he still complained that I needed to get back to Sol, though. I guess once I got back to Sol from Cooke, then I was instantly transported back to Cooke. Anyway, I did some plaing around next to the proxima beacon. it seems you can't get much closer than 1000 meters from the beacon. the autopilot sets it to 200m/sec when you get close and that maintains a constant distance of about 2000 meters. It's like there's some kind of repulsor field that keeps you away. Also, while at the proxima beacon, I couldn't find how to get to the jumpgate. Neither at the Cooke beacon. I was hoping he would show me how when we got there, but it was automatic I'll try more practicing with inertial flight. the nice thing is that you don't go back to zero whenever you let up on the throttle.

I've discovered that auto-pilot is the safest and fastest way to get somewhere in hyperspace, but it burns through fuel fast since you are constantly accelerating or decelerating, its not a concern in the missions that they provided yet, but it may someday be.

Anyway you can't use jumpgates yet, it isn't programmed in, so the mission just ends when you make it to the beacon.

There isn't any repulsor field, it is just the currents, you have to be travelling faster then a certain amount to not get knocked around by them and if you are moving that fast you can't really stay near the beacon.

If you want to find the enchanter you have to get absurdly lucky like I did the first time I flew or fly it manually. line yourself up with the proxima beacon while near io and make sure inertia isn't dragging you sideways or up and down, then accelerate to 2k/s. When you get to about 1M meters from Proxima slow to 1k/s. Eventually you should hear dialog from the instructor that "this is hopeless... I wonder if species can sense direction in hyperspace", your character responds that he knows of one.

He is apparently a telepath(that broke the law by joining Earth Force by the way), when you hear this, at around 900km either way, you should be close to the enchanter, and you should start hearing something that sounds real vague. slow down to 500m/s and look around. the swirly vortex thing gives you greater sight range, so look at that. as you get closer to it what you hear becomes clearer and more coherent ex:someone whispering "get me off of this thing" if you stop hearing stuff turn back and go back towards Io and continue looking. You don't have to find the enchanter though, but if you want to end the mission in under a half an hour you better

	05-01-2005 08:33									#24
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Finished up with the campaign, had to "cheat" in two parts. 1 was the fight in hyperspace, the other was where I cheesed the nova class destroyer in the last mission.

	05-01-2005 18:28									#25
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Wow, I do recall hearing something strange in hyperspace one of the times I lost the beacon, but had no idea what it was....