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Jonny

Emperor

Nashville, Tennessee, USA
Nov 2000
time: 23:34

02-01-2005 08:44

Apolyton - Sixty thousand strong and growing...

Got spare money?

Well, Apolyton's passed the sixty thousand member mark. A size 3 city!

That's a lot... though one wonders how many are DLs.

Well, there's only one thing to do now:

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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 08:50

Visit Locutus<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!

Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Woohoo!

And let's all welcome Mr. 60k... TNTatNMT

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Unspeakable Horror

Emperor

Oct 1999
time: 02:34

02-01-2005 08:57

Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:40

Got spare money?

The traditional stats and graphs:

Raw data on milestones reached

code:members		date of		days to reach		days to reach
(in 1000)	milestone				(cumulative)
0		26-07-1998		0		0
1		04-04-1999		252		252
2		07-05-1999		33		285
3		28-07-1999		82		367
4		13-11-1999		108		475
5		23-01-2000		71		546
6		20-05-2000		118		664
7		14-10-2000		147		811
8		20-12-2000		67		878
9		19-02-2001		61		939
10		14-05-2001		84		1023
11		16-08-2001		94		1117
12		19-10-2001		64		1181
13		06-11-2001		18		1199
14		10-11-2001		4		1203
15		22-11-2001		12		1215
16		11-12-2001		19		1234
17		17-01-2002		37		1271
18		05-04-2002		78		1349
19		27-04-2002		22		1371
20		08-06-2002		42		1413
21		16-07-2002		38		1451
22		31-08-2002		46		1497
23		01-10-2002		31		1528
24		05-11-2002		35		1563
25		28-11-2002		23		1586
26		26-12-2002		28		1614
27		22-01-2003		27		1641
28		27-02-2003		36		1677
29		11-03-2003		12		1689
30		04-04-2003		24		1713
31		12-05-2003		38		1751
32		25-05-2003		13		1764
33		06-06-2003		12		1776
34		17-06-2003		11		1787
35		30-06-2003		13		1800
36		13-07-2003		13		1813
37		30-07-2003		17		1830
38		17-08-2003		18		1848
39		02-09-2003		16		1864
40		20-09-2003		18		1882
41		10-10-2003		20		1902
42		27-10-2003		17		1919
43		10-11-2003		14		1933
44		23-11-2003		13		1946
45		09-12-2003		16		1962
46		27-12-2003		18		1980
47		13-01-2004		17		1997
48		01-02-2004		19		2016
49		26-02-2004		25		2041
50		23-03-2004		26		2067
51		15-04-2004		23		2090
52		10-05-2004		25		2115
53		04-06-2004		25		2140
54		01-07-2004		27		2167
55		28-07-2004		27		2194
56		25-08-2004		28		2222
57		27-09-2004		33		2255
58		30-10-2004		33		2288
59		02-12-2004		33		2321
60		02-01-2005		31		2352

Average numbers

stats at 60,000 members

average # of days to reach milestone…
in last 3 months: 32
in last 6 months: 30
in last 12 months: 27
in last 24 months: 22
since 2002: 25
since 2001: 28
since beginning: 39

average # of new registrations per day…
in last 3 months: 31
in last 6 months: 33
in last 12 months: 37
in last 24 months: 45
since 2002: 40
since 2001: 36
since beginning: 26

stats at 50,000 members

average # of days to reach milestone…
in last 3 months: 21
in last 6 months: 19
in last 12 months: 18
in last 24 months: 24
since 2003: 19
since 2002: 25
since beginning: 41

average # of new registrations per day…
in last 3 months: 48
in last 6 months: 53
in last 12 months: 56
in last 24 months: 42
since 2003: 53
since 2002: 40
since beginning: 24

Raw data on number of active posters (no data means I forgot to check in time

)

code:members		last week	last month	last 3 months
32000				1457		
40000		850		1300		2300
41000						
42000		600		1031		1832
43000						
44000		940		1504		2210
45000		975		1471		2541
46000						
47000		892		1452		2367
48000						
49000		774		1303		2228
50000		777		1211		2131
51000		771		1252		2039
52000		753		1223		1902
53000		777		1220		1941
54000		724		1146		1915
55000		741		1169		1845
56000		690		1101		1721
57000		652		970		1543
58000		655		977		1496
59000		663		992		1479
60000		592		1029		1496

Major events in Apolyton History
(Disclaimer: meaning of 'major event' entirely subjective and not based on anything other than my personal opinion and what fitted nicely into the graphs)

code:Birth of Apolyton			26-07-1998
Release of Civ2:MGE			04-12-1998
Release of SMAC				09-02-1999
Release of C:CtP			30-03-1999
Release of Civ2: ToT			31-07-1999
Release of SMAC-X			19-10-1999
Birth of Big Huge Games			28-02-2000
Release of CtP2				19-11-2000
Upgrade of ACS Forums to vBulletin	21-05-2001
Release of Civ3				29-10-2001
Death of GameStats			31-01-2002
Birth of Settler I			21-04-2002
Release of Civ3:PtW			29-10-2002
Release of MoO3				25-02-2003
Release of GalCiv			25-03-2003
Birth of Settler II			24-04-2003
Release of Rise of Nations		20-05-2003
Upgrade of Settler II RAM		27-08-2003
Release of GalCiv:EU			16-09-2003
Release of CtP2 Source Code		28-10-2003
Release of C3C				04-11-2003
Release of RoN:T&P			28-04-2004
Release of GalCiv:AP			15-06-2004
Release of Civ3:Complete		16-09-2004
Release of Ron:Gold			27-10-2004

More complete list of major events (including events that didn't fit in the graphs):

code:Birth of Apolyton			26-07-1998
Birth of ACS Forums			07-08-1998
Birth of ACS Column			08-08-1998
Acquisition of Avalon Hill by Hasbro	09-08-1998
Acquisition of Microprose by Hasbro	12-08-1998
Birth of ACS Tournaments		23-09-1998
Birth of ACS Interviews			25-09-1998
Birth of ACS Chats			03-10-1998
Birth of ACS Fiction			06-10-1998
Birth of ACS Alt Games Section		15-10-1998
Birth of ACS File Database		09-11-1998
Announcement of Civ2 for PlayStation	22-11-1998
Birth of ACS Scenario Contests		28-11-1998
First Recognition from Written Press	01-12-1998
Birth of ACS (P)reviews			04-12-1998
Release of Civ2:MGE			04-12-1998
Birth of ACS Hosted Sites		08-12-1998
Release of Civ2 for PlayStation		11-01-1999
Merger of ACS and Beyond AC		15-01-1999
Announcement of C:CtP for Linux		27-01-1999
Merger of ACS and Civ2 Mac Site		30-01-1999
Release of SMAC				09-02-1999
Release of C:CtP			30-03-1999
Release of Civ2:MGE for Mac		30-03-1999
Release of C:CtP for Linux		14-05-1999
Announcement of Civ3			15-05-1999
Birth of The List			17-05-1999
Announcement of C:CtP for BeOS		23-06-1999
Completion of The List v1		14-07-1999
Announcement of SMAC-X			28-07-1999
Release of Civ2: ToT			31-07-1999
Birth of GameLeague			26-09-1999
Death of OWO Forums			07-10-1999
Release of SMAC-X			19-10-1999
Completion of The List v2		10-11-1999
Announcement of Dinosaurs		01-12-1999
Start of major ACS Upgrades		14-12-1999
Release of C:CtP for Mac		13-01-2000
Release of C:CtP for BeOS		31-01-2000
Release of SMAC for Mac			04-02-2000
Departure of Reynolds from Firaxis	08-02-2000
Announcement of CtP2			15-02-2000
Release of SMACPP			24-02-2000
Announcement of SMAC(PP) for Linux	24-02-2000
Birth of Big Huge Games			28-02-2000
Message from Sid Meier			23-03-2000
Announcement of SMAC-X for Mac		26-03-2000
Completion of Essential Civ3 List	04-05-2000
Release of SMAC-X for Mac		18-05-2000
Release of FreeCiv for Windows		10-07-2000
Departure of GameLeague			05-08-2000
Cooperation of BHG and Microsoft	29-08-2000
Birth of ACS Yearbook			15-10-2000
Success for Apolyton House		29-10-2000
Release of CtP2				19-11-2000
Acquisition of Microprose by Infogrames	06-12-2000
Death of CtP Series			20-01-2001
Death of Dinosaurs			24-01-2001
Coverage of EU				05-03-2001
Release of SMACPP for Mac		16-04-2001
Announcement of SimGolf			10-05-2001
Announcement of Civ3 for Mac		17-05-2001
Upgrade of ACS Forums to vBulletin	21-05-2001
Birth of Faces of Apolyton		06-07-2001
Birth of ACS Radio			17-07-2001
Announcement of Civ3 LE			31-07-2001
Birth of Apolyton Store			07-08-2001
Death of Loki Games			14-08-2001
Coverage of MoO				28-08-2001
Publication of Velociryx's SMAX Guide	03-10-2001
Release of Civ3				29-10-2001
Birth of ACS Music Station		20-11-2001
Move of ACS Server to AUTH		04-01-2002
Release of Civ3 for Mac			08-01-2002
Release of SimGolf			24-01-2002
Birth of ACS Democracy Games		25-01-2002
Death of GameStats			31-01-2002
Announcement of Civ Board Game		09-02-2002
Announcement of RoN			27-02-2002
Birth of Settler I			21-04-2002
Announcement of Civ3:PtW		01-05-2002
Coverage of Candle'Bre			04-05-2002
Announcement of GalCiv			22-05-2002
Creation of new Homepage Layout		12-06-2002
Birth of ACS Directory			23-07-2002
Publication of Reynolds on RoN		17-08-2002
Upgrade of ACS Store			27-08-2002
Announcement of Civ:GotY		06-09-2002
Birth of Velocigames 			08-09-2002
Death of Microprose			12-09-2002
Start of ACS MoO3 Beta Contest		18-09-2002
Release of Civ Board Game		03-10-2002
Birth of ACS IRC Server			25-10-2002
Release of Civ3:PtW			29-10-2002
Release of Civ3:GotY			30-10-2002
Birth of ACS Civ Groups			30-10-2002
Announcement of Civ3:PtW for Mac	07-12-2002
Start of ACS MoO3 Preview Series	09-01-2003
Announcement of Civ3:CE			24-01-2003
Completion of Directory Import		27-01-2003
Acquisition of MacSoft by Destineer	31-01-2003
Start of BHG/ACS RoN Beta Contest	14-02-2003
Birth of ACS File Upload Service	18-02-2003
Release of MoO3				25-02-2003
Announcement of Civ3:GotY for Mac	16-03-2003
Release of GalCiv			25-03-2003
Release of MoO3 for Mac			26-03-2003
Release of Civ3:GotY for Mac		09-04-2003
Birth of Settler II			24-04-2003
Announcement of GalCiv:EU		06-05-2003
Renaming of Infogrames to Atari		07-05-2003
Birth of ACS WAP Service		13-05-2003
Announcement of C3C			15-05-2003
Announcement of Pirates! II		15-05-2003
Cooperation of Firaxis and Atari	16-05-2003
Release of Rise of Nations		20-05-2003
Conscription of MarkG			23-05-2003
Birth of ACS Shopping Centres		22-07-2003
Fifth Birthday of Apolyton		26-07-2003
Announcement of CtP2 Source Code	26-07-2003
Upgrade of Settler II RAM		27-08-2003
Release of GalCiv:EU			16-09-2003
Announcement of Civ3:Gold		18-09-2003
Release of CtP2 Source Code		28-10-2003
Release of C3C				04-11-2003
Release of Civ3:Gold			04-11-2003
Announcement of GalCiv:AP		19-11-2003
Announcement of RoN:T&P			20-11-2003
Announcement of Civ4			04-12-2003
Birth of The Civ4 List			08-12-2003
Birth of ACS File Upload Service v2	31-01-2004
Birth of new ACS Contact Form		20-02-2004
Birth of new ACS Forum Search		28-02-2004
Birth of ACS CivGroups News		29-02-2004
Creation of new Homepage Layout		07-03-2004
Birth of new ACS Radio			07-03-2004
Birth of ACS File Upload Service v3	21-03-2004
Birth of Ad-Free Hosted Site: Clash	21-03-2004
Birth of ApolytonPLUS			31-03-2004
Release of RoN:T&P			28-04-2004
Announcement of Civ3 for n-Gage		12-05-2004
Release of GalCiv:AP			15-06-2004
Birth of Apolyton Hall of Fame		26-07-2004
Announcement of RoN:Gold		26-07-2004
Announcement of Civ3:Complete		07-08-2004
Announcement of GalCiv2			30-08-2004
Release of Civ3:Complete		16-09-2004
Death of Strategy First			21-09-2004
Release of Civ Board Game 2nd Edition	25-09-2004
Announcement of Ron:Gold for Mac	15-10-2004
Announcement of Civ4			25-10-2004
Release of Ron:Gold			27-10-2004
Release of Pirates! II			22-11-2004
Sale of Civilization Franchise		25-11-2004
Birth of ACS Email Forwarding		10-12-2004
Release of RoN:Gold for Mac		13-12-2004

Last edited by Locutus on 02-01-2005 at 09:55

Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:41

Put an end to popups!

Graph 1: Growth of forum logins (plain)

Attachment: growth_plain.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:42

Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Graph 2: Growth of forum logins (since 2002)

Attachment: growth0204_plain.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:43

Remove this text

Graph 3: Time to reach milestone (plain)

Attachment: milestone_plain.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:43

Put an end to popups!

Graph 4: Time to reach milestone (since 2002)

Attachment: milestone0204_plain.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:44

Get a bigger avatar today!

Graph 5: Growth of forum logins (with major events)

Attachment: growth_events.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:45

#10

Got spare money?

Graph 6: Growth of forum logins (since 2002, with major events)

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Last edited by Locutus on 02-01-2005 at 09:57

Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:46

#11

Tired of ads?

Graph 7: Time to reach milestone (with major events)

Attachment: milestone_events.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:46

#12

Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Graph 8: Time to reach milestone (since 2002, with major events)

Attachment: milestone0204_events.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:48

#13

Get a bigger avatar today!

And for the first time I now have enough statistics on active users to make graphs for them as well. I'm sure a certain doctor will be pleased

Graph 9: Active users (since 32k, plain)

Attachment: active_plain.jpg
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Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 09:50

#14

Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Any suggestions for additional statistics, info, events, etc are always welcome. The final one:

Graph 10: Active users (since 32k, with major events)

Attachment: active_events.jpg
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Rasputin

Deity

Brisbane
May 1999
time: 15:34

02-01-2005 10:41

Visit Rasputin<br><a href=/members><img src=/forums/images/lifer-icon.gif border=0></a><BR>'s homepage!

#15

Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by Locutus
And for the first time I now have enough statistics on active users to make graphs for them as well. I'm sure a certain doctor will be pleased

Graph 9: Active users (since 32k, plain)

so out of 60 000 members we only have 1000 regulars ????

Last Conformist

King

of Calakmul
Jul 2003
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 15:59

#16

Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

On CFC, close to 60% of posters have no posts at all. Anyone know the corresponding figure here?

DrSpike

Deity

Enthusiastic member of Apolyton
Sep 2001
time: 05:34

02-01-2005 16:15

#17

Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by Locutus
And for the first time I now have enough statistics on active users to make graphs for them as well. I'm sure a certain doctor will be pleased

Indeed I am! The last charts are especially useful. Notice how the active posters figure is relatively flat even over a long period. However the Civ4 boost will be welcome to stop any decline in active posters - the C3C effect is marked even in these figures.

Good work.

Atahualpa

Emperor

Hawthrone
Mar 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 16:34

#18

Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

wow thx Locutus!!!

Provost Harrison

Emperor

The farce is strong with this one.
Feb 2000
time: 05:34

02-01-2005 17:01

#19

Get a bigger avatar today!

Someone has waaaay too much free time on their hands

Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 17:03

#20

Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote:
Originally posted by Rasputin
so out of 60 000 members we only have 1000 regulars ????

If you want to define a regular as someone who posts about once a month or more, then yes.

quote:
Originally posted by Last Conformist
On CFC, close to 60% of posters have no posts at all. Anyone know the corresponding figure here?

Pretty much the same.

quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike
Indeed I am! The last charts are especially useful. Notice how the active posters figure is relatively flat even over a long period.

Ever since the release of C3C both the number of active posters and the growth rate of the new logins has gradually been falling, so that seems fairly consistent. But as you say, the real interesting period is yet to come: as Civ4 approaches, we'll undoubtably be flooded in new members; it'll be interesting to see how strongly number of active posters will be affected, especially in comparison with the number of new logins. It's already so that around the time the first Civ4 rumours started to appear on gaming sites (Soren's presentation at the GDC was never very widely published), the falling lines flatten out.

Edit: typos

Last edited by Locutus on 02-01-2005 at 17:10

Locutus

ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager

Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:34

02-01-2005 17:05

#21

Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote:
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Someone has waaaay too much free time on their hands

... Said the former Deity who lost much of his PC and is now almost a Diety again in spite of OT being +0

Dauphin

Emperor

Caught in a tuna net
Jan 1970
time: 05:34

02-01-2005 20:01

#22

Got spare money?

quote:
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Someone has waaaay too much free time on their hands

I thought you were banned for a year.

Jonny

Emperor

Nashville, Tennessee, USA
Nov 2000
time: 23:34

02-01-2005 21:18

#23

Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Nice work Locutus!

Lorizael

Prince

The Cult Wins
Sep 2001
time: 00:34

02-01-2005 23:39

#24

Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Remember, though, that people do more than just post on the boards here.

Giancarlo

King

Los Angeles
Apr 2000
time: 02:34

02-01-2005 23:49

#25

Put an end to popups!

You mean.. 200 people and 59,800 double logins.

Lorizael

Prince

The Cult Wins
Sep 2001
time: 00:34

02-01-2005 23:56

#26

Got spare money?

At that point the term double login is really insufficient.

Last Conformist

King

of Calakmul
Jul 2003
time: 06:34

03-01-2005 00:46

#27

Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Most of them are the admin's attempt at wooing advertizers.

Rasputin

Deity

Brisbane
May 1999
time: 15:34

03-01-2005 01:42

#28

Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote:
Originally posted by Lorizael

Remember, though, that people do more than just post on the boards here.

You mean there are more things than forums here !!!!!