06-01-2005 14:07									#91
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn And as far as the booing, thats just awful. Of all the phoney, fake, no talent props on the Pop scene today, why boo Ashley?

Because she's a phoney, fake, no talent prop who yelled out of tune badly?

The fact that more phoney, fake, no talent props are not given the boo treatment they deserve is a pity, but irrelevant to this. This isn't someone's fragile 8year old daughter at her 1st school play trying to sing. Ashley's a big girl now and needs to know she sucks. The booing was not "just awful", rather just honesty.

	06-01-2005 19:59									#92
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When did being known, even in the most minimal way become confused with fame, and why is fame being heaped upon people of not actual merit?

Ashlee Simpson is "known" solely because of who her sister is, and her sister is not even particularly talented (if incredable eye candy)- 10 years ago no one would have given her a shot to be playing a room with 500 people, far less a 70,000 gig.

	06-01-2005 20:25									#93
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yup because 10 years ago there were no pretty but not very talented female singers

	06-01-2005 20:33									#94
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Yes, there were, but they were *different* pretty-but-not-very-talented female singers. Jessica was, like, 14 at the time. Hence she wouldn't be singing for 50 thousand. Instead the star would be...um...Spice Girls? Man, I don't even remember who was big on the crud-music scene in 1995.

	06-01-2005 21:15									#95
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The thing is the spice girsl were musical geniuses compared to Ashlee Simpson.

There are three ways of being terrible musically:

Have no singing talent
Sing terrible songs
Sing terrible songs and have no singing talent.

Most bad pop artist of the past were categories one or two, Ashlee is three.

10 years ago people in the three category were few and far between-today they are more common for some sad reason-tis the same movement in pop culture that makes Paris HIlton a huge celebrety, even though her only discernable talent is being a stupid skank.

	06-01-2005 22:19									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo But hey I like David Bowie and Queen. So I guess that kinda cancels it out doesn't it?

I like those 2 as well. Does that make me gay?

	06-01-2005 22:26									#97
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YEs Diss, you are gay. The flamboyant one.

	06-01-2005 22:32									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka YEs Diss, you are gay. The flamboyant one.

I also love Faith No More's gay songs. At least they sound gay to me.

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	06-01-2005 22:35									#99
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quote: Ashlee Simpson is "known" solely because of who her sister is

But now she's probably more "known" for lip synching on SNL and getting booed off the stage for sucking at the Orange Bowl .

	06-01-2005 22:42									#100
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I thought the problem was that she was lip-sync-ing to wrong song?

But meh, I see dozens of way more attractive girls here every day.

	06-01-2005 22:44									#101
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Well, she started to, but then she realized her error and ran off the stage .

	06-01-2005 22:49									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, she started to, but then she realized her error and ran off the stage .

yeah, if she wasn't such a little wuss, and stayed on the stage, I might have respect for her. Well probably not, but it'd still be cool if she stayed.

	06-01-2005 23:00									#103
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	07-01-2005 00:08									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Pyrodrew Because she's a phoney, fake, no talent prop who yelled out of tune badly? The fact that more phoney, fake, no talent props are not given the boo treatment they deserve is a pity, but irrelevant to this. This isn't someone's fragile 8year old daughter at her 1st school play trying to sing. Ashley's a big girl now and needs to know she sucks. The booing was not "just awful", rather just honesty.

Whatever you say. The fact is Ashlee Simpson had one of the top selling female solo artist albums of all time. If I recall her album reached number one on the billboards... something her big sister has never done. Clearly somebody likes her. This whole backlash towards her are just people jumping on the bandwagon of people who saw SNL (like you). OMG SEH USED TEH LIPSINCING!!!11 So what, any idiot knows that nearly everyone uses vocal tracks to back them up.

So she sang off tune... who cares? Why not just be polite and wait for her to leave? Booing her off the stage is just deplorable behaviour. Especially for someone so young. Things like this will make or break her career.

	07-01-2005 00:11									#105
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara fashion punks

Its not so much punk, as it is fashion. She's not trying to be a punk, she's trying to be fashionable... and in places like California (especially) that sort of look is fashionable. I don't think she has any pretentions of being punk.

p.s. I don't have any particular like for Ashlee Simpson, and physically she isn't even my type... I just don't understand the hatred towards her.

	07-01-2005 00:11									#106
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If Ashlee and Jessica had another sister, do you think their dad would turn her into a rapper or a prostitute?

	07-01-2005 00:14									#107
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Oh come on... booing her off stage is what she deserved. Her face, like "Are they really booing me, who do they think they are" was priceless. I love seeing talentless hacks who got to the top on the strength of their name shot down .

Booing is the least of what she deserved.

Oh, and I hope it does break her career.

	07-01-2005 00:31									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Oh come on... booing her off stage is what she deserved. Her face, like "Are they really booing me, who do they think they are" was priceless. I love seeing talentless hacks who got to the top on the strength of their name shot down . Booing is the least of what she deserved. Oh, and I hope it does break her career.

Why? What has she ever done to you?

	07-01-2005 00:34									#109
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She deserves even less. She deserves a pooshower and the treatment of an trompty tower's moonchy mush.

	07-01-2005 00:36									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka She deserves even less. She deserves a pooshower and the treatment of an trompty tower's moonchy mush.

	07-01-2005 00:40									#111
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Do you want to know something eerie? I know you've been smoking. Don't deny, I know it. But it's ok... if you were sober, you would know pooshower is disgusting. It's not fun, it's disgusting. Just like she is. they're both disgusting, and they deserve each other.

	07-01-2005 01:04									#112
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn Why? What has she ever done to you?

I had to listen to her horrible voice. Whatever torture we can think of is not enough .

	07-01-2005 01:38									#113
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I think it's becoming clear that JCC actually likes her music.


* Jaguar throws a rock at JimmyCracksCorn

	07-01-2005 01:40									#114
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Maybe he should get his ears checked?

	07-01-2005 01:46									#115
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Sure, why not.

* Jaguar throws another rock.

	07-01-2005 01:51									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo moron

ah, word association game.

fez
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giancarlo

	07-01-2005 01:51									#117
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That Ashlee Simpson has one of the best selling female albums is a horrid indictment on the modern Music and enterntainment industry- that a person of small talent, through effective marketing, can become a superstar, while individuals of real talent are shunted to niche markets is pretty sad.

The real genuises here are the PR and marketing men.

	07-01-2005 01:53									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, she started to, but then she realized her error and ran off the stage .

not before doing a little jig.

	07-01-2005 01:55									#119
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gepap, hasn't that been the case since...well, forever?

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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney gepap, hasn't that been the case since...well, forever?

No- there was a time before PR, for one, but two, when there were a lot of small music concerns people had to live off the quality of their product, to stand out and be profitble- now, this does not reduce the chance of poor songs being sung by talented people, but it did reduce the possibility of trully bad performers lasting at all, and certainly of selling well, given the independence of radio companies and the fact they would actually look for talented people, so that they got more airtime and where themselves profitable.

Today we live in a world in whcih a few large companies control the production of music, while another small set controls distribution- once the production companies have decided to annoit one hack as a star, they can do it, have the budgets to push it, and don;t have to worry about survival of the latest flavor of the month collpases. Ditto for the large radio concerns.

In fact, the Ashlee Simpsons of the world are a Godsend- you pump them up for their first album, for which you pay them very little as compared to established stars, then you push the album to milk it for all its worth, then if the public does not want a second, well, who cares, there is a million wanna be's willing to be the next Ashlee Simpson.