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His speech reminded me of cold war rhetoric. He was justifying Imperialism. Freedom is not the end all. You can not go around conquering nations and toturing people and pretend that you are fighting for a greater good. He was talking about making the world free by conquering nations, but we never invaded Iraq to make it free. We invaded them for Bush's own needs. He's so full of **** his eyes are turning brown.

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His speech reminded me of cold war rhetoric. He was justifying Imperialism. Freedom is not the end all. You can not go around conquering nations and toturing people and pretend that you are fighting for a greater good. He was talking about making the world free by conquering nations, but we never invaded Iraq to make it free. We invaded them for Bush's own needs. He's so full of **** his eyes are turning brown.

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I liked this inaugural speech. It was very visionary, idealistic even,

That's part of why I don't like it.

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He was talking about making the world free by conquering nations,


No, he specifically said that we wouldn't force nations to be democratic through military conquest:

"This is not primarily the task of arms, though we will defend ourselves and our friends by force of arms when necessary. Freedom by its nature must be chosen and defended by citizens and sustained by the rule of law and the protection of minorities. "

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Yes, freedom in other nations must be chosen by the citizens.




Of the United States.

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If anyone still believes in the nonsense about "the liberal media", then you should have watched CNN's coverage of the inauguration. Utter propaganda and Bush-ass-licking.


You should´ve watched Fox News
Obviously they had Judy Bachrach as Guest Commentator.

She went on to critizise Bush (and his inauguration parties) and countered every attempts of the Fox-Moderator who was with her in the studio to show Bush in a good light, so that Fox at one point decided, to stop the broadcast

Here´s a Transcript (but only in german)
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...,337878,00.html

and here a link to the original video:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1695

 
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