13-04-2001 23:49									#1
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Both Firaxis and Maxis have confirmed that legends Sid Meier and Will Wright are working together in some way on a game due out at the end of the year.

Anyone have any idea on what it is?

Since the confirmation is on The Sims sight I figured it must have something to do with The Sime, either The Sims Online or The Sims Live. Either way, this type of game just doesn't seem like the normal Sidesque game.

On a side note, Firaxis had a deal with EA to publish three games. SMG and SMAC would be one and two. SM Dinos would have been game three and meant that there would be no legal trouble with Civ III. Could Sid working with Maxis (Maxis' publisher is EA) be a way to acknowledge the contract? What would these two great minds be working on?

Any comments?

	14-04-2001 00:33									#2
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I've never heard any info about Maxis' old project SimMars, even the webpage was taken down, though I never heard a cancellation announcement. Could that be it?

	14-04-2001 00:47									#3
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You may have something there Serapis, IIRC they announced that it would be "delayed indefinitely". That would be cool! SimMars sounded like a great concept!

John-SJ

	14-04-2001 04:51									#4
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I know about it, can't say anything yet though. I'm making a web site for it right now. If anyone wants to help they can just post right here or e-mail me.

	14-04-2001 04:56									#5
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Actually...I could let one thing slip...

Its a Black & White killer.

	14-04-2001 23:19									#6
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It's Color?

	15-04-2001 01:06									#7
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Well, yes, but I ment that it will be basically the only game coming out this year that will be able to beat the game Black and White in number of awards won.

	16-04-2001 03:52									#9
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Well B&W isn't that original. There have been god games before it such as Populus. This game just adds good/bad decisions and gives you a creature, which is a very unoriginal thing to have in a game right now. Also, if you notice, there are many reviewers who strongly dislike the game, this might change once more bugs are fixed though.

Furthermore, even though you might not consider this game very original (unlike The Sims, Dinosaurs, etc), it still has a good chance at getting many awards as the concept is good and reviewers like to suck up to Sid and Will even more than they do Peter.

	16-04-2001 05:09									#10
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The only really original thing about B&W is the creature. Other than that it's just Populous and Dungeon Keeper in the same game. i.e. B&W = Populous + Dungeon Keeper + new creature AI.

Shouldn't be too hard to top, IMO, especially with Sid + Will working on it.

John-SJ

	16-04-2001 09:25									#11
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Long long time ago during the good old days of DOS, there was a gamed called Moonbase (or something like that). The object of the game was to build a sustainable base on the moon.

That game was full of bugs but it was a lot of fun to play. It was sort of like SimCity on the moon.

Could SimMars be similar?

	16-04-2001 09:27									#12
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Could the creature be taken from nethack? Afterall, this game has been around for the longest time and the player gets a pet in the game.

	20-04-2001 00:17									#14
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Er, wouldn't the Creature come from Creatures?

	23-04-2001 09:01									#15
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personally, I'm hoping the proposed game will be a simmars that's actually a colonization update.
now THAT would be cool