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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
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Originally posted by Theseus
DAR 1 - Through 2150 BC
AU Mod - Emperor
Even though I participated in setting up the game, I figured I could follow my own personal rule set for early play, and not be too far off from a 'fair' challenge.
Accordingly, on the start, I explored with the Scout, and decided to move the Settler 7 to access both fishes. I immediately started chopping the starting tile. On the second turn, after founding the capitol, I went through the F10 process of identifying all AI civs and analyzing their starting techs, and chose CB as my first research at 100%. I also, and this is *important*, started immediately on a granary... no units.
I explored further north first as there is the hill at 88 of my capitol... so much for the north!! 
I then headed down the east coast to benefit from the Scout's two moves, then south and west with the range of mountains... I was being lazy, and actually using the mouse to point two-tile moves, and did so onto a hut!!! Well, thank the lord I hadn't built any units, and I got WC for free.  I also, on the same move, saw the dreaded red culture outline of Rome. 
With the silks mined and roaded into Washington, I still needed 34 shields for the granary, so I started on some more chopping.
Met Rome... damnit, just as I had picked up WC, they had somehow picked up CB!! Masonry and Pottery for Alphabet+10g. I only had 3 turns to go on CB, so I let that be.
After that, The Wheel at 100% and 15 turns.
The second chop completed with Washington at 2 pop, 5 turns to completion, and 8 turns to growth... that is muy efficient!!
Hmm... with all of the extra gold generated by the silks, methinks Washington will make a superb Colossus and then Super-Science-City.
Met Greece... WOW!! They have BW and 0g, while I have Pottery, WC, CB, and 24g.  BW for Pottery. I immediately check with Rome, and they must have just completed BW (on the way to IW, no doubt).
Some turns later: MWAHAHAHA, the Greeks have 2 Workers in Athens, and I trade WC for them!!
By now, I have determined to commit to 3-tile CP, although ICS depending on my REX.
10% lux keeps the still empty W-ton happy enough at 3 pop.
I research the Wheel... Greece has nothing to trade, and Rome has Mysticism, which is too expensive, but I am able to snag another Worker. :chucklechuckle:
Greece gets to IW first; I am able to trade for it with CB, the Wheel, and 1gpt. I get Mysticism from Rome for IW and 1gpt. I am very happy to enter into these gpt deals, on the theory that it will help prevent the AI civs from attacking (defenderless) me. [EDIT: Even though, yes, trading IW to Rome feels like giving nuclear technology to Kim Il Jung.  ]
Met Carthage... the laggard. Get 20g for CB.
Got Boston built just before the end of the DAR. I'm pretty sure I'll get to Writing first, or damn close to it, and then on to Philosophy. |
Pic is in the original thread.
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Theseus
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
time: 00:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Theseus
DAR 2 - Through 1000 BC
AU Mod - Emperor
Finished Writing in 1950BC... first to it, at least locally. Trady Mysticism to Greece for 25g and Carthage for 15g. Trade Writing to Rome for HBR and 40g. Philosophy next at 100%, with 92g in the bank, losing -3gpt, and still a 47 turn rate. 
I've been darting my Scout in and out of Grecian borders... I don;t know if that makes them mad, but Greece demands Writing!! I bet the ranch, refuse, and am OK. 
I road the tiles at 3 and 2 (cow) of Boston, then go back to irrigate both. Having built a Warrior and Curraugh there, I will build one Settler before turning it into a pump with a Granary. Once, I've done that, I am planning on a Temple for W-ton, moving the Warrior there as an MP, and then going for the Colossus.
LOTS of micromanaging to time Settler builds to growth.... playing with every town and with the lux slider almost every turn to achieve the right timing. (  to nbarclay) HBR to Greece for 30g.
1500BC: Spot the Germans to the west, but my Curraugh suicides on the way.
Rome demands 23g... I accede to the SPQR.
1250BC: First to Philosophy. Big Picture trading nets Polytheism, Literature, and 70g from Rome. Greece and Carthage have nothing to offer. Tough choice next between Monarchy, Mapmaking, and Code of Laws, as the first is so much more valuable. However, as I hope to avoid warring until Fascism as much as possible, I chose CoL, with Republic next, at 109g in the bank, 0.8.2, losing -4gpt, 15 turns. Philosophy to Greece for 25g and a Worker. Code of Laws to Rome for 30g. Philo and Poly to Carthage for Mapmaking.
I start crowding Rome and Greece for REX purposes. Flips hopefully to follow.
Built embassies with Rome and Greece.
The Settler at Chicago22 is headed one tile further south, and will settle at Cumae633 / Thermopylae44.
I am the only civ going for the Colossus, so that is looking good. |
Pic is in the original thread.
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Theseus
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
time: 00:29
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DAR 5 - Research of Fascism Complete
710AD was a GLORIOUS year!!!! 
Completed Theory of Gravity first, and was awarded the SGL Albert Einstein (look in Washington) (yeah, so he's a touch early!!). 
And, got to within one turn of a hard-build of Smith's, so I'm effectively guaranteed two GWs in a row in Washington! YAY!!
The Celts, btw, have started a massive smack-down of Germany. I had started a Knights force, for upgrade to Cavs and immediate attack on the advent of Fascism... I had originally planned on not going with any kind of horse force, planning on Tanks instead, but I too impatient.
Completed Fascism in 940AD... interestingly, so did Rome in that year! Not quite ready to revolt right away, as, in the just-recognized absence of saltpeter  , I would need a serious Knights force ready before attacking Rome.
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Theseus
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
time: 00:29
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DAR 6 - A Power-Hungry Fascist Bastard!!
Emerged from anarchy in 1220AD... immediate attack on Rome (along with Total Diplo War). Fairly ugly actually, as I was still a bit underpowered. I had wanted to capture nearby Cumae with saltpeter, south central Pompeii with iron/coal, and Rome herself for Leo's. Well, it took me 4 turns just to capture the resource cities, and I actually had to perform a strategic withdrawal from Rome!! 
But capture them I did, upgraded the Knights to Heavy Cavs, and got busy. Things went pretty quickly from there, with Rome destroyed in 1320AD. 
[NOTE: Was there something wrong with this scenario? I was never able to build the SPHQ!!!  ]
The world knew peace... unfortunately, the war had cost me a tech slowdown, and I was generally behind by Corporation and Rep Parts. The good news: I had Atomic Theory and a pre-build for ToE timed for three turns hence.
1340AD: Weeeeelll, allllriiighty then!!!! Ahead by Electronics at minimum; have all strat resources except oil, have 8 lux, have 2600g even after all Infantry/Guerrilla upgrades, my first Heavy Cav Army out and about, and in a GW-triggered GA!!
The good news: Greece is next, and Athens has Sun Tzu, Bach, and Longevity. The bad news: The Celts are still just kicking boo-tay, with a score of 2004 compared to my 1072. 
I proceeded knock the crap outta Greece and Carthage over the next couple hundred years, gaining from Carthage Shakespeare, Copernicus, and Universal Suffrage of the current GWs; also completed Hoover in Washington in 1440AD.
Unfortunately, the friggin' Celts more or less completed their continental 'cleansing in the same time frame!!!
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
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I decided not to jump at them with Heavy Cavs and Tanks, but rather wait for a Modern Age IC invasion. First off, I wanted to see how well Fascism could perform at this stage from a builder perspective (answer: OK, I guess, but I'd rather be Commie), and second, I like some late-game modern mayhem every once in a while!!
I didn;t really get started on a military build-up until about 1770AD. That century, I had completed all of my SWs (including Iron Works), as well as Cure for Cancer, Internet, and SETI. So, in addition to Hydro Plants and Research Labs, by that time major cities had completed everything up through Hospitals (if they made sense... mostly coastal), Offshore Platforms, and Mass Transit; minor towns/cities had completed at least a Temple, Library, and Harbor, and many were working on Courts. So, a fairly good build out... and the Celts and I stayed pretty neck-and-neck in research, so I can't really *complain* about Fascism, but... (more in the After Game comments).
Heeeeeyyyyy... wait-a-g*ddamn-everlovin'-piss-me-off-to-no-limit second... NO ALUMINUM??!!! %#)(*$()U^@*)$#%^_@#$)O^%$#_^@$
And with this embarassment of other riches??!!
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
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This was ready and in position in 1914AD, and I launched the attack the next turn. The Aluminum Landing is at Munich11 in the pic below.
BTW, notice that the Celts have completed the conquest of their home continent, including cultural expansion. They were pretty strong too, with: 25 Spec Forces, 23 Infs, 73 TOWs, 272 Mech Infs, 19 Tanks, 62 Modern Armor, 30 Jet Fighters, 32 Bombers, 30 Destroyers, 12 Aegis Cruisers, 17 Battleships, 8 Carriers, and 6 assorted Subs, among other forces.
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Theseus
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The warmonger formerly known as rpodos. Gathering Storm! Apolyton Spirit!!
Apr 2002
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There were some other fun events along the way:
* Many MGLs, ending with 13 Armies and having rushed a number of high-shield buildings on the Celt continent;
* Bombarding the crap outta whatever Celt resources I could find;
* Fun and games with Spec Forces, wasting the Celts movement and eating up a lot more of their offensive forces than I would have expected;
* Nuking a two-stack Celt fleet, taking out (I think) 3 Battleships, 3 Aegis Cruisers, 2 Carriers, 2 Transports, and whatever loaded units there were; etc.
I ended the game via domination the next turn, with a score of 3657 (versus the Celts' 5164!!!).
TADA!! 
EDIT: Also, note that in the Final Invasion the only accompaniments to Transports were Cruisers; this was due to movement rates, as I have posted before. My current style is that naval units of like movement (wellll... within one movement rate of each other) travel together... PERIOD. And I don't like it.
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The pirate
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Funny, because I could build it too, after Espionage. I think if we are trying to improve Fascism by providing it with the SPHQ, then putting it behind another optional tech sort of nerfs it. SHould probably bring this to the post game comments. Hope to get there soon..
james
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