31-01-2005 07:58									#61
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It's hard to say whether cheating is bad in this case. One can always make the argument that he'd make the same choices as before with a new character, up to the point where he was defeated previously.

There's no point keep repeating the same thing, no?

	31-01-2005 17:14									#62
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Yeah, but there's cheating by using the octopus method, and then there's cheating by just claiming to have won all the fights and passed all the tests.

I'd like to think that there was at least one adventure in which the wrong choice led to an unwinnable fight, and the next page after the end of this fight exposed you as a cheat.

	01-02-2005 03:52									#63
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The octopus method was MUCH worse than skipping the fights. I made my choices and lived or died by them.

-Jam

	01-02-2005 09:05									#64
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Octopus method

	01-02-2005 09:45									#65
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I've played around with some form of ADnD since the early 80's and, while there may be better systems/settings around nowadays I can see why it's still popular.
I often used to integrate a few Gamma World crossover's - nothing like seeing a players face when they've just run into something nasty that they can't quite figure out and you just 'accidentally' let a part of the front cover of the GW rulebook slide out from the safe confines of your's DM's guide.

Other favourites: The aforementioned Rifts - pretty lousy system but one of the best settings I've ever seen. Particularly with Phase World thrown in.

WtA/VtM (White Wolf) - Again excellent settings but I never really got into the system. It always felt 'clunky' somehow.

Paranoia (WEG) - Anybody else remember this? Again a crappy system but utterly hilarious with the right group of players. I can just see Skanky and Spike playing this one.

Torg (WEG) - My all-time favourite. Brilliant game system and setting(s). Fantasy-pulp-Sci-Fi and horror all 'invading' different parts of the earth. :drool:

	01-02-2005 10:55									#66
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i havan't played ADnD but i've played exalted, another tabletop roleplay game.

	02-02-2005 09:54									#67
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Champions is really good for its genre.

	03-02-2005 08:39									#68
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paramir- I wondered if anyone had actually played that game- (I just saw it in game stores starting about 6 months ago) how is it?

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has anyone ever seen this movie? It's called mazes and monsters. It's supposed to address concerns of D&d on children. Looks hilarious in it's cheesiness.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

	03-02-2005 10:39									#70
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Yep, I saw it. It's based on a true story, too. The moral of the movie? Don't play DnD, it'll mess you up.

	03-02-2005 10:53									#71
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yeah but the true story was made up by detectives and/or the parents. It was shown that he had other problems in his life completely unrelated to DnD.

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I know, I was joking. They did that movie in the middle of the 80's D&D witch hunt. And Tom Hanks is in the movie, too!

	03-02-2005 19:41									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident has anyone ever seen this movie? It's called mazes and monsters. It's supposed to address concerns of D&d on children. Looks hilarious in it's cheesiness. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

Without looking, It's got Tom Hanks going to the Two Towers, also known as the WTC.

ACK!

	03-02-2005 23:43									#74
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that's the one, I have never seen it (that I can remember). I'm trying to find it online. I like watching cheesy movies.

	10-02-2005 22:15									#75
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Other favourites: The aforementioned Rifts - pretty lousy system but one of the best settings I've ever seen. Particularly with Phase World thrown in.

I have to agree that this is a really good setting with a really bad system. I'm just not sure how to fix it. They've got so many variables and factors in the system that conversion just doesn't seem practical. Something's bound to get lost in translation.

quote: WtA/VtM (White Wolf) - Again excellent settings but I never really got into the system. It always felt 'clunky' somehow.

I have to disagree. Having spent quite a bit of time in 1st AD&D and Shadowrun, the systems on these never felt 'clunky' to me. You want clunky? See the aforementioned Rifts and 3rd edition Shadowrun.

quote: Paranoia (WEG) - Anybody else remember this? Again a crappy system but utterly hilarious with the right group of players. I can just see Skanky and Spike playing this one.

I think I had a character made up for this one once, but never got around to playing.

quote: Torg (WEG) - My all-time favourite. Brilliant game system and setting(s). Fantasy-pulp-Sci-Fi and horror all 'invading' different parts of the earth. :drool:

I had my eye on this one for several years, but I was on a Shadowrun kick at the time, so I never got around to actually buying it. May have to go back and give it another look.

	11-02-2005 20:05									#76
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york When I was young, I actually played with a pencil and dice, but when I got older, I just claimed that I won all of the battles, and automatically won all of the skill tests. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, right...?

Interesting - I cheated when I was young, but then played properly when I got older . I don't think I ever actually finished a game I was playing properly, though...