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New from D.C. - 'Serb, One Man Siberian Army Corps'.

Jack Kirby will be resurrected to draw it, Jim Shooter will do the usual sensitive treatment of the story, and it will be promoted with antique souvenir bullet casings from Katyn Forest.




See, these souvenir casings are all 8mm Mauser! Proof of Soviet innocence!

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That's your personal understading. I don't think that the causes of the rage of your media at Russia are as simple as that.


Vagabond, I didn't say anything about "our media." Our media is firmly in the camp of the left, not the right. I assume the left applauded Russia standing up to Bush, which makes their hostility to Putin hard to understand.

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I wouldn't say Americans are pathologically anti-Russian. I would say a lot of Americans are pathologically pro-American.

It starts at an early age, saluting flags, "One nation under God", and other brainwashing techniques.

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I wouldn't say Americans are pathologically anti-Russian. I would say a lot of Americans are pathologically pro-American.

It starts at an early age, saluting flags, "One nation under God", and other brainwashing techniques.


Very true. It is obviously a form of mental disease to be proud to be an American. The left in the US, of course, does not share this disease and is very active in their criticism of America, believing as they do, that "America is part of the problem, not the solution," quoting Teddy Kennedy's speech last week.

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Ned! You've discovered sarcasm!

Did I say American's being pathologically pro-American was a bad thing?

Well, sometimes it is. Not always.

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Vagabond, I didn't say anything about "our media." Our media is firmly in the camp of the left, not the right. I assume the left applauded Russia standing up to Bush, which makes their hostility to Putin hard to understand.


Then this just means that not everything revolves around the issue of Iraq.

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I wouldn't say Americans are pathologically anti-Russian. I would say a lot of Americans are pathologically pro-American.


Being pathologically pro-something automatically implies being pathologically anti-everything-else.

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Our media is firmly in the camp of the left, not the right.


Tell us another story Ned. Don't you watch FOX?

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Being pathologically pro-something automatically implies being pathologically anti-everything-else.


*cough*

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Very true. It is obviously a form of mental disease to be proud to be an American. The left in the US, of course, does not share this disease and is very active in their criticism of America, believing as they do, that "America is part of the problem, not the solution," quoting Teddy Kennedy's speech last week.


Patriotism is not a bad thing, indoctrination and nationalism is.

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Tell us another story Ned. Don't you watch FOX?


Kid, we all know that FOX is unique.

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Talk radio along with vast numbers of print media (like National Review & the Christian Science Monitor) don't count? What about the 700 Club with that fat bigot who runs it? It seems like half the air time of the Jesus freak network (what ever that 24/7 Christian network is called) is spent showing 700 club.

You are correct about one thing though. Fox News is the only major news network to consistantly be lacking in journalistic integrity. Unlike the other networks Fox takes sides and slants everything based upon that bias.

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Talk radio along with vast numbers of print media (like National Review & the Christian Science Monitor) don't count? What about the 700 Club with that fat bigot who runs it? It seems like half the air time of the Jesus freak network (what ever that 24/7 Christian network is called) is spent showing 700 club.

You are correct about one thing though. Fox News is the only major news network to consistantly be lacking in journalistic integrity. Unlike the other networks Fox takes sides and slants everything based upon that bias.


Why of course, there are minor right-wing publications and shows. Talk radio is dominated by conservatives, true. But I doubt most Russians even have the ability to listen to most of them. What they do see are the major cable and broadcast networks, and major newspapers. Among these, FOX is fairly unique. Another conservative publication that everyone seems to respect, though, is the Wall Street Journal. I suspect that the Wall Street Journal is anti-Putin because it favors democracy.

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Like where?
Churchill was angry with Poles for not accepting Soviet propositions.

Yeah, right - Churchill was a commie, a pinkass communist who got angry everytime when somebody refused Soviet propositions.
Btw, I was refering to his monumental work- World War II. This is where he called Poland a greedy hyena. In case if you didn't guess it already -he wrote this book after WW2.

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Probably guilty conscience.

Churchill's guilty conscience

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As for provoking ww2, repeat it as often as possible.
No Russia-bashing can be as successful as your brilliant remarks.

Truth hurts?

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Serb... The garnison defended, true. And what?

They killed themselves, but didn't surender to your "liberators". That makes your obvious lie about "liberation" of Smolensk a total bullsh!t. Whom you tried to liberate there, dead bodies? It's the same kind of liberation Americans are trying to impose now in Iraq - conquerberation, exterminabiration and lieberation.

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Polish garnison of Moscow defended as well.

To save their pity asses.

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And for boiling... I'm sure it was a wide-spreaded.
We, in Poland, still have a Day of St Serb,
in which each family meets over a dish of a boiled Russian up till now. Beautiful tradition.

I know. It's so-called "advanced Polish civilization".

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Again, Putin seems to believe Him in that matter.

Bullshit. He never said he believes in this Goebels's fake. Anyhow, I have to repeat it once again- Putin makes history, not study history. He has plenty of other things to do and his value as historian is probably pretty low.

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If Goebels said Russians are brave people, would You not believe Him as well?

I would not believe a single word of the chief of Hitler's propaganda. Esp. when he tries to whitewash nazis by blaming Soviets.

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No "Soviet Aschwitz". Gulag.

What Gulag? Once again- Gulag is the Glavnoe Upravlenie LAGerei (General Deportment of Prisons). It's state's institution whose duty is to manage and supervise prisons. Every country on this planent has such institution. What exactly Soviet prison you are lying about?

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What for? I'm thanking them in general.

By calling them conquerors?
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What do You want from me, Serb, in this matter, huh?

Nothing.

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You know I was just jesting, you crazy Russkie, don't you?

I was jesting as well.
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I toast you with a glass of Russian tea, comrade, sweetened with a spoonful of jam.

Who the hell drinks tea like that? Probaly only a moron from "Sex and the city" who pretended to be Russian?

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Hockey is a North American sport.

Ukranians played alike game in times when America wasn't discovered yet.
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You know they know nothing of geography

Geography? What the hell is that?
Just face it- the fact that my home city team is the European hockey champion means that Siberia is in Europe.

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Nostalgia for the Soviet Union, taking quotes out of context, taking for granted that being surrounded by NATO means being isolated (surrounded? China is in NATO? Kazakhstan? odd definition of surrounded)
Yup, its the Nation all right.


Look boy, when we tried to bring some of our equipment to Cuba in early 60s, you nearly started WW3 over this. Try to imagine we bring Canada and Mexico into our military alliance and perhaps you'll understand how much concerned we are. And better shut-up about paranoia.

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I don't know about the press in general, but the American right may have some very hard feelings about Russia given that it aligned itself with Saddam and Chirac in the fiasco at the UN concerning the "second resolution" on Iraq. Russia owes America an apology or some strong gesture of goodwill before we'll forget its stance on Iraq.



Russia owes an apology to America for being against American invasion to Iraq? For being against the blatant agression and blatan violation of UN charter?

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Pozor pyanice i raszvizdyayu!
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If we can believe Serb you have to fear nothing because your glorious army with its superior equipment will eliminate every threat within nanoseconds.


We will of course, as we always did when the west waged their crusades against Russia, but not within nanoseconds and it will cost us millions of lives.
You've never outnumbered us so greatly as now. Now it's about 4:1 in your favour. But who cares? If you'll try something, will kick your pity arses once again.

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'Serb, One Man Siberian Army Corps'.


I like it.

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Pozor pyanice i raszvizdyayu!
Alcohol eto yad.


Komu pizdet'

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I'm absolutely dry since Christmas.
No kidding.

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I was jesting as well.

Who the hell drinks tea like that? Probaly only a moron from "Sex and the city" who pretended to be Russian?



Old babushkas, comrade. I was offered a glass of Russian Caravan tea, with the options of lemon, a piece of sugar to hold between my teeth, or a spoonful of jam.

For the sake of my molars, and because I prefer sweet tea to lemon tea, I chose the jam.

I didn't enquire as to whether or not she was a White Russian emigre.


I like kasha too, and blinis with salmon and sour cream.

Mother Russia

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You can always add some sugar to your lemon tea if you don't like a pure lemon tea. Lemon is good with vodka too. Damn, everything good with vodka.

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You can always add sugar to your lemon tea if you don't like a pure lemon tea. Lemon is good with vodka too. Damn, everything good with vodka.

Mother Russia


The East is Red!

(molly lives in East London )

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Russia owes an apology to America for being against American invasion to Iraq? For being against the blatant agression and blatan violation of UN charter?


Serb, honestly, wouldn't you rather have America on your side?

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Look boy, when we tried to bring some of our equipment to Cuba in early 60s, you nearly started WW3 over this. Try to imagine we bring Canada and Mexico into our military alliance and perhaps you'll understand how much concerned we are. And better shut-up about paranoia.


someone let me know when NATO puts nuclear weapons into Lithuania. Or Poland, for that matter.
(Oh yes, we did put them into Turkey - and pulled them out when USSR pulled its nukes out of Cuba)

BTW a historic note - NATO wasnt a US led alliance that expanded into europe. It started as a grouping of UK, France, and Benelux, that US joined. Brussels Treaty. Ergo NATO started closer to the Russian border than to the US.

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BTW a historic note - NATO wasnt a US led alliance that expanded into europe. It started as a grouping of UK, France, and Benelux, that US joined. Brussels Treaty. Ergo NATO started closer to the Russian border than to the US.


Who needs facts when you have true beliefs

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Okay, so let's face it. Since one out of three or four Americans have guns, and since the US has one of the largest militaries, beaten only by China and Indonesia, and since America has like 8 nuclear subs armed with nukes on them, the odds of even the whole world defeating the american military AND the state militias AND the 70 million american civilians that own shotguns and have nothing to lose...are well...pretty slim, to say the least...not the mention that the world powers would have been nuked first...

So maybe the rest of the world has 6 billion people. And maybe only 1 billion of them, at the most, even have guns in their houses, i mean, real guns...and the chance of all of them wanting to attack america, much less getting about to america, are slim to none...never find the nuclear fallout...

 
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