25-01-2005 19:37									#1
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And the nominees are...

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA
Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND
Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Jamie Foxx - RAY

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR
Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS
Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL
Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Clive Owen - CLOSER

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

Annette Bening - BEING JULIA
Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE
Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE
Hilary S**** - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR
Laura Linney - KINSEY
Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS
Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA
Natalie Portman - CLOSER

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

THE INCREDIBLES
SHARK TALE
SHREK 2

ART DIRECTION

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

CINEMATOGRAPHY

THE AVIATOR
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

COSTUME DESIGN

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
RAY
TROY

DIRECTING

THE AVIATOR
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS
VERA DRAKE

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

BORN INTO BROTHELS
THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL
SUPER SIZE ME
TUPAC: RESURRECTION
TWIST OF FAITH

DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

AUTISM IS A WORLD
THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY
HARDWOOD
MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH
SISTER ROSE'S PASSION

FILM EDITING

THE AVIATOR
COLLATERAL
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
THE CHORUS
DOWNFALL
THE SEA INSIDE
YESTERDAY

MAKEUP

LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE SEA INSIDE

MUSIC (SCORE)

FINDING NEVERLAND
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE VILLAGE

MUSIC (SONG)

"Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2
"Al Otro Lado Del Río" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
"Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS
"Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
"Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS

BEST PICTURE

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS

SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)

BIRTHDAY BOY
GOPHER BROKE
GUARD DOG
LORENZO
RYAN

SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)

EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST
LITTLE TERRORIST
7:35 IN THE MORNING
TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT
WASP

SOUND EDITING

THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
SPIDER-MAN 2

SOUND MIXING

THE AVIATOR
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RAY
SPIDER-MAN 2

VISUAL EFFECTS

HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
I, ROBOT
SPIDER-MAN 2

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)

BEFORE SUNSET
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
SIDEWAYS

WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)

THE AVIATOR
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
HOTEL RWANDA
THE INCREDIBLES
VERA DRAKE

	25-01-2005 19:37									#2
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My comments and picks later...

	25-01-2005 19:43									#3
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Best Pick:

My pick is Million Dollar Baby, but its a close 3 way race with Aviator and Sideways.

Best Actor:

I think Paul Giamatti got shafted, but I would say Foxx is the front runner.

I have no opinion on the rest of the acting categories

Best Director- I think Clint and Martin are the two real contendets

Best Animated: not even close, I mean, really. Incredibles will win.

Best Documentary: tought group-personally I want supersize me to win, but its a toss up.

Best Adapted Screenplay: I think Sideways is the front runner and should win.

Best Original Screenplay:
I think it should be Eternal Sunshine.

	25-01-2005 19:48									#4
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And Agathon's picks are...

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Jamie Foxx - RAY

Duh...


ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY

All black, all the time...


ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

Annette Bening - BEING JULIA

Although the Latino chick is easily the most hittable.


ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR

I'd hit it.

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

THE INCREDIBLES

Pixar always wins.


ART DIRECTION

Who cares...


CINEMATOGRAPHY

THE AVIATOR

COSTUME DESIGN

Who cares...

DIRECTING

THE AVIATOR

obbious really...


DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

Load of crap because Fahrenheit 9/11 wasn't in it.


DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

Only dorks like these films.

MUSIC (SCORE)

All terrible.

MUSIC (SONG)

BEST PICTURE

THE AVIATOR

Yes.. it did suck

VISUAL EFFECTS

I, ROBOT

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)

THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES

Hasta la....


WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)

VERA DRAKE

One for the liberal baby killing hollywood types...

	25-01-2005 19:53									#5
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quote: Load of crap because Fahrenheit 9/11 wasn't in it.

Michael Moore purposely did not submit F-911 for B. Documentary.

However, I think the B. Pic noms are a load of crap because they didn't have F-911 on it.

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quote: Michael Moore purposely did not submit F-911 for B. Documentary.

Should have been in for best picture and won too. That would keep the rednecks away from the movies and prevent Vin Diesel from disgracing the screen again.

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Moore overreached-there were so many great pictures this year that his gambit backfired.

	25-01-2005 20:40									#8
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These are the only movies I've seen on the whole list

VISUAL EFFECTS

HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
I, ROBOT
SPIDER-MAN 2

And the winner is,

"I, Robot"

The CGI was flawless/seamless. It didnt occur to me until a considerable time after the movie was over that the robots weren't physical. I also thought the movie itself was OK (if a bit predictable), but then I havent read the book.

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If enough voters have seen the movie Don Cheadle should win best actor for HOTEL RWANDA. My guess is Foxx will win.

Best Actress should be Imelda Staunton for VERA DRAKE. Once again, a poorly distributed film.

Best Documentary - BORN INTO BROTHELS - too bad it had little distribution - it would be nice for Americans to see this one. ( I guess CONTROL ROOM was last years movie... otherwise a clear winner.)

... more votes later...

	25-01-2005 22:35									#10
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Hey, A Very Long Engagement got a couple of nods! This makes me hate the oscars ever so slightly less.

	25-01-2005 22:46									#11
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I haven't seen any of the movies on that list.

Hmmm.

	25-01-2005 22:48									#12
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I'm surprised that foreign movies figure in categories other than "best foreign film". Both the Chorus and A Very Long Engagement are nominated once in another category.

	25-01-2005 22:52									#13
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Lord of the Rings will win again

	25-01-2005 23:35									#14
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Man, I'm dissapointed that "Eternal Sunshine" didn't get nominated for Best Picture . Though I'll be rooting for Kate to win Best Actress .

	26-01-2005 00:04									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Lord of the Rings will win again

	26-01-2005 00:19									#16
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I expect those long time people who did not get one before, will get one. And I expect the minorities to do well (not because of PC, but because they deserved it). Though I think it was PC when Halle won the first time. She wasn't that good in Monster's Ball.

Martin Scorcese will get his first oscar for the Aviator.

	26-01-2005 00:22									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Uncle Sparky If enough voters have seen the movie Don Cheadle should win best actor for HOTEL RWANDA. My guess is Foxx will win. Best Actress should be Imelda Staunton for VERA DRAKE. Once again, a poorly distributed film. Best Documentary - BORN INTO BROTHELS - too bad it had little distribution - it would be nice for Americans to see this one. ( I guess CONTROL ROOM was last years movie... otherwise a clear winner.) ... more votes later...

what is this born into brothels about? besides brothels that is. I have never heard of it until today.

	26-01-2005 01:19									#18
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I think I got the pool thread up in record time this year...

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I'm surprised that foreign movies figure in categories other than "best foreign film". Both the Chorus and A Very Long Engagement are nominated once in another category.

Well, why not? They are both in technical categories, so they are valid contenders.

I liked A Very Long Engagement- nice WW1 recreations- nice and bloody- but Jeunet uses a lot of the sam actors all the time.

Did not see the Chorus.

	26-01-2005 03:42									#20
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IMO it's an outrage that no Dutch movie was nominated as best foreign language film. The movie we sent in ('Simon') was the best Dutch cinema has produced in decades (which, granted, is not saying much -- but it's a damn good film) and is rivalled only by another movie that was released this year but wasn't officially sent in ('De Dominee' a.k.a. 'The Preacher'). I haven't seen all the other nominated foreign films yet, but both beat the crap out of 'Les Choristes'.

'Der Untergang' should still win that category though, that was a truly amazing film and made a lasting impact on me and everyone else I know who saw it.


Of all the English language films I've seen this year (quite a few), only Harry Potter is remotely worth mentioning. I'm surprised it got so few nominations. Then again, I haven't seen any of the films that were nominated for Best Picture this year, and in fact I never even heard of 3 of them. I could say similar things for other major categories such as Best (Supporting) Actor/Actress and Directing. I guess they're all recent releases and have yet to make their way to Europe...

	26-01-2005 03:43									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Man, I'm dissapointed that "Eternal Sunshine" didn't get nominated for Best Picture . Though I'll be rooting for Kate to win Best Actress .

What he said.

I should probably also see the Aviator, see if it's any good.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Man, I'm dissapointed that "Eternal Sunshine" didn't get nominated for Best Picture . .

Word.

	26-01-2005 03:58									#23
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Isn't it strange that the movies most often nominated for Academy Awards are those released at the very end of the year?

	26-01-2005 04:20									#24
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They do that on purpose. There actually seems to be "movie season", and they tend to put Oscar contenders near the end of the year so they will be fresh in your mind.

Of course there are always a few that make it. Like Pirates of the Caribbean did last year

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I don't think I've seen any of those films. I need to get out more.
Well not really but I need to see more films.

	26-01-2005 05:35									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus IMO it's an outrage that no Dutch movie was nominated as best foreign language film. *snip*

Neither did "De zaak alzheimer"

	26-01-2005 05:43									#27
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When's the last time someone got nominated for both best actor and best supporting actor? More importantly, how in the hell did Jamie Foxx get a best supporting actor nod for Collateral when he was obviously the lead actor in that movie? Should've given the nod to Cruise; he was good in that movie and was the actual supporting actor...

BTW, no Fahrenheit 9/11 =

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I'm surprised that foreign movies figure in categories other than "best foreign film". Both the Chorus and A Very Long Engagement are nominated once in another category.

Why? Roberto Bernini won B. Actor (and the film was nominated for B. Picture) for Life is Beautiful. Juliette Binoche was nominated for Chocolat (and won for The English Patient), Gerard Depardieu was nominated for Cyrano de Bergerac back in 1990, Catherine Deneuve for Indochine in 1992, Massimo Troisi for Il Postino in 1995, Fernanda Montenegro for Central Station in 1998, Javier Bardem in Before Night Falls in 2000... and, since the UK and Australia aren't exactly within the US, those countries have secured their fair share of noms and wins as well.

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Isn't it strange that the movies most often nominated for Academy Awards are those released at the very end of the year?

That's done on purpose, as the studios release what they think is Oscar-worthy at the end of the year as to not have the films lose their "freshness."

	26-01-2005 06:21									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten When's the last time someone got nominated for both best actor and best supporting actor? ...

Performers nominated twice, winning the Lead Oscar:
Al Pacino (Scent of a Woman/Glengarry Glen Ross)
Holly Hunter (The Piano/The Firm)

Performers nominated twice, winning the Supporting Oscar:
Fay Bainter (White Banners/Jezebel)
Teresa Wright (The Pride of the Yankees/Mrs. Miniver)
Barry Fitzgerald (Going My Way/Going My Way)
Jessica Lange (Frances/Tootsie)

Performers nominated twice, losing both:
Sigourney Weaver (Gorillas in the Mist/Working Girl)
Emma Thompson ((The Remains of the Day/In the Name of the Father)
Julianne Moore (Far from Heaven/The Hours)

Thanks to ArchiveGuy at the SDMB