25-01-2005 20:57									#1
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The 2 alien races are cool. It's just that I like to play vs randomized factions and

1) They don't gain energies from treaty trading;
2) They don't take part in the council;
3) Whenever 1 is around, the other will also be here;
4) It seems that whenever I randomize at least 2 factions, they will always be there.

And that takes a lot of fun out of the game,
so I don't want them in my games. At least not every game anyway.

So is there a mod that let me keep them out of randomizing factions or let them take part in the council, etc?

	25-01-2005 21:46									#2
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Remove them from Alphax.txt file in your root SMAX/C folder

	25-01-2005 21:49									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Zubbus So is there a mod that let me keep them out of randomizing factions

Open up the alphax.txt file and scroll down to the "NEWFACTIONS" section (its about 3/4's of the way down the file). Remove the two entries for the Progenitors. Save off the file. This should do it.
Note that in order to get the Prog's back into your games you'll need to do the reverse.

quote: Originally posted by Zubbus Or let them take part in the council, etc?

Open up the Caretake.txt and Usurp.txt files (their about 4kB each). Remove the entry "ALIEN=X (I forget whether its a one or a zero). Save off the files. I think this will work - haven't tried it myself. Let me know if it works or not and I'll document it as such.


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	26-01-2005 00:33									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan Remove the entry "ALIEN=X (I forget whether its a one or a zero).

Actually its more like "ALIENS, X". The entry is about 10% down from the top of the file.


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	26-01-2005 01:50									#5
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But if you remove the ALIENS flag, won't their other benefits AND their alien unit outlook disappear as well?

	26-01-2005 03:12									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan I think this will work - haven't tried it myself. Let me know if it works or not and I'll document it as such.

	26-01-2005 08:29									#7
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Am currently playing a random game and was given the Caretakers.

Got a real surprise when I nervestapled a base and my complete energy grid for all bases shut down for the duration of the ten years. Caused some real financial problems for me for a bunch of turns (I was running Dem/planned/wealth, and couldn't change to FM 'cos of a fifteen strong noodleforce engaged against the Gaians) as well as a major research hit.

Far more onerous for an alien faction to nervestaple than for a human one

	29-01-2005 06:58									#8
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quote: [SIZE=1] 3) Whenever 1 is around, the other will also be here;

Not true. Randomize as you wish, then just de-select either of the Aliens by selecting whomever else you wish to insert in the lineup. Even patched, a known bug.

	30-01-2005 01:59									#9
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Are you very sure? I don't think it will even let you start if you have exactly 1 alien in the lineup.

	30-01-2005 02:02									#10
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BTW, many thanks for all the solutions. Alas, my urge to dominate Alpha Centauri is has gone flat ( I HAVE played it for hundreds of hours) for the moment and I'm am now onto other oldies (Etherlords 1 and 2, which ain't half as great, but I haven't even finished 1 or started 2).

If I go back to Alpha Centauri again I'll be sure to let you know how these tweaks work out.

	30-01-2005 05:47									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Zubbus Are you very sure? I don't think it will even let you start if you have exactly 1 alien in the lineup.

Absolutley positive. I do this often. Playing as H'minee is a kick - Lady G on steroids. Marr is not missed.

	30-01-2005 05:59									#12
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I just hate their annoying voices. It's painful to listen to.

	31-01-2005 22:48									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I just hate their annoying voices. It's painful to listen to.

You mean....

Listen:Painfull:Progenitor:Voices

	01-02-2005 13:14									#14
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Have you heard of "Talk like a pirate day"? How about "Talk like a progenitor day"?

	01-02-2005 19:56									#15
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quote: Originally posted by #endgame Have you heard of "Talk like a pirate day"?

Yup, but if you GM any pen n paper RPGs, you already have had your fill of that.

quote: Originally posted by #endgame How about "Talk like a progenitor day"?

How:bout:not

Progenitors:annoying:throughly

Spoon:gag:me:with
Oh:my:god:like

(Valley Progenitor)

	03-02-2005 07:04									#16
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Wonder if the Aliens have a santa claus or an easter bunny...

	03-02-2005 07:44									#17
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No, they have a 'Surprise Launcher' on Rebellion Day and Blooming Break!

	03-02-2005 11:16									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I just hate their annoying voices. It's painful to listen to.

I',ve never played SMAC or SMAX with the sound on.

It didn't seem like I was getting any info from the sound and it was distracting. Am I missing something?


Mead

	03-02-2005 11:26									#19
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I can't play games without sound. Even a game with simplistic sounds such as smac.

speaking of sound. Has anyone had problems with units making the wrong sounds in smax? I have seen psi units make the "laser" sounds. Is there any way to correct this? I only had this problem after I installed the expansion. I figured some of them were intended (as I noticed the expansion introduced some new combat sounds which I like alot). But some seem out of place.

	03-02-2005 13:49									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Mead I',ve never played SMAC or SMAX with the sound on. It didn't seem like I was getting any info from the sound and it was distracting. Am I missing something? Mead

Compared to most games of this sort you are missing a lot. Nothing which will hurt your game mind you, but you miss out on a lot of great voiceovers, the environmental "music" (which I like) and some sound effects (some of which are lame, especially weapons). I'd turn it on and play through the game a few times and experience every voiceover at least once.

	03-02-2005 17:55									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I can't play games without sound. Even a game with simplistic sounds such as smac.

Burn the heretic!! To the stake with him!!!

quote: Originally posted by Dissident speaking of sound. Has anyone had problems with units making the wrong sounds in smax? I have seen psi units make the "laser" sounds. Is there any way to correct this? I only had this problem after I installed the expansion. I figured some of them were intended (as I noticed the expansion introduced some new combat sounds which I like alot). But some seem out of place.

Try installing the original sounds (SMAC thus) on another place of your HD, search for the sounds folder, listen to them all and make a cross check with the ones in your SMACX folder. Overwrite where necessary.

	07-02-2005 12:05									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan Open up the alphax.txt file and scroll down to the "NEWFACTIONS" section (its about 3/4's of the way down the file). Remove the two entries for the Progenitors. Save off the file. This should do it. D

Ok, this crashes the game when you get to the part where you choose the factions to be in the game.

	07-02-2005 13:23									#23
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Replace the progenitors with some other string, so that you have 2 believers or so..