01-05-2001 05:15									#1
	Sid Meier's Sim Golf? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

saw the news item in the misc section?

	01-05-2001 08:31									#2
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I don't want to comment either

	01-05-2001 10:26									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Golf? Blah. Whoopty doo. I enjoy golfing once in a while, but i can't see enjoying a golfing computer game. Im sure it will be great, as far as golfing games go, but it's just not my thing.

	01-05-2001 12:54									#4
	Get a bigger avatar today!

What's more unbelievable is Sid DOING a golf game!! Doesn't make much sense does it?

	02-05-2001 08:06									#5
	Got spare money?

He did CPU Bach and few saw that coming...

	02-05-2001 08:13									#6
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Yikes, a golf game.

Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

	02-05-2001 18:02									#7
	Put an end to popups!

Well I would never normally buy a Golf game, so perhaps if Sid can weave some magic into the genre it just might attract a lot of new buyers into a small but solid niche market. I was struggling to think what on earth he could do to improve gameplay but the latest news makes more sense if he is helping to make the Sim Golfcourse Manager aspects fun, playable and challenging. A management sim sounds far more his kind of sphere.

	03-05-2001 03:02									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I always was sucker for Course Design games...

	03-05-2001 07:50									#9
	Inflate your Upload Space

What kind of courses? Basket Weaving 101 perhaps?

BTW, are you tired of entering big long handles?

	05-05-2001 02:20									#10
	Remove this text

I just don't understand exactly why this game makes sense in terms of the economics of it.

The big movers and shakers in sports games all are either from EA or have a major athlete behind them (or in the case of N64 Mario). A game designer doesn't seem to be one to have a draw for a sports game. I may be wrong but the Sid name probably won't sell to many copies for a sports game so the game will have to be fantastic to find a spot in an already crowded market. Just doesn't seem to make sense (shakes head in disbelief).

	05-05-2001 03:07									#11
	Put an end to popups!

Well, I was talking about this a few months ago, and the one game Sid HASN'T done is sports. Perhaps this is to complete all the genres?

Sid Meier and Will Wright can get some bucks for the game though. We'll see (I'll buy it ).

	06-05-2001 23:45									#12
	Increase Your PM Length

Well remember this is more a golf management game/sim rather than a golf sports game per se.

I don't know how many strategic aspects there would be in making and running a golf course but I suspect that Sid Meier will find something interesting to model.

I probably won't buy it but I think the trend of making sims covering a wider range of topics is a good one even if I don't like every single subject. A top-class golf management game will probably induce some older, more educated types to play computer games for the first time. Then they might get interested in strategy games in general and enlarge the market for high quality strategy games. That's a good thing ,right?

	07-05-2001 04:18									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I did like all those ancient golf games but the ones nowadays are too complicated I just want to get out there and hit the bloody ball. I don't see how sid can improve on the golf game, I'm a bit skeptical as to the reliance of the news. And yes more players is better.(at least for us game-makers

Shane

------------------
" Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few "

	08-05-2001 20:43									#14
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Think Rollercoaster Tycoon but instead of good rollercoasters and theme parks you have to design good golf courses and country clubs. Add a golf sim and you could have a great seller on your hands.

It's a pretty obvious idea. I have asked myself before why no-one has made one....

	10-05-2001 05:28									#18
	Put an end to popups!

Sid & Co have finally announced that it is Sim Golf so I guess I can say some things, but unfortunantly almost all of what I know is mentioned in the Gamespot preview.

Also, Imran, you doubted that I really knew about this ahead of time. Look at the number of pieces of advanced info I gave you - four. Guess what golfers say when teeing off . I couldn't say anything specific so I just put that thing in there so I could show you afterwards that I did indeed know about this ahead of time. The e-mail actually originally included 7 other things but they were even more vague and would not give you more assurance than just having four.

	10-05-2001 17:43									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/storie...2717147,00.html

	10-05-2001 19:44									#20
	Inflate your Upload Space

Cool.

	11-05-2001 05:02									#21
	Suffering from ads?

Sounds interesting.

Quick question is Firaxis going to post anything on their site or is everything going to be at Maxis/EA?

	11-05-2001 06:59									#23
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I don't damn care how good it is I ain't gona buy a computer game based on the worlds most crappy game.
whats next sid? sid mier's dollhouse??

shesh!

	11-05-2001 07:09									#25
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

What I think everyone is missing, including myself is the contract that Firaxis has with EA. The companies agreed to three games. The first being Sid Meier's Gettysburg!, the second being SMAC, and the third most people expected to be the dino game.

When the dino game fell through, Firaxis was in a bit of a pickle. They needed to satisfy EA with a third game before EA would let Firaxis finish a game for a rival publishing house. So, EA talked with Sid and Jeff and they probably worked on a solution.

At first this would be the company making another game with hired help. But then Sid got this great idea and talked with EA. They were thrilled with a simulation golf title - after all they make a killing off of the simulation genre and sports games and now the two are going to be combined by a man whose name immediately sells thousands of copies. My guess is EA immediately bought on to the project and sent Sid to talk with Maxis and Will Wright. They hit it off and the project just devoloped.

Now everyone is happy. EA gets their third title that is destined to sell lots because of the above reasons. Maxis brings in money with the Sim name but has to do little of the work. Firaxis is out of the contractual bind they are in before Civ III comes out. And Sid, well Sid gets to work on a new game, a new project, something that he prefered to do then make the same game new.

So its a win-win solution for everyone both in terms of money and happiness. Now the question is whether both Civ III and Sim Golf will be worth buying and if so, then I guess its a win-win solution for us gamers, too.

	11-05-2001 11:44									#26
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

There's already another similar game called Golf Resort Tycoon coming out in about a week. Check out http://www.golfresorttycoon.com/. At a glance the graphics look nicer.

	12-05-2001 09:59									#27
	Put an end to popups!

Ok, I have looked at the stuff on this golf tycoon game coming out from Activision and must say that I am not terribly impressed. Very few things about it. Not a single mention on the major gaming sites. In the end it just doesn't seem like it will be that popular or hurt what Sid and Will are trying to do. Now that doesn't mean Sim Golf will not be a flop, just that will this Golf Course Tycoon isn't that phenomenal.

	14-05-2001 09:04									#28
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Here's an idea for Sid's golf game. Part of managing the course would be to stomp out those predators that keep ruining the green. I mean all those pesky dinosaurs that keep running around that you often see on any old everyday golf course. Thus Sid effectively kills two games with one microchip and adds a real touch of realism to the game.
[This message has been edited by Russell (edited May 14, 2001).]

	14-05-2001 22:18									#29
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I just told my girlfriend that Sid Meier, the guy behind the Civilization games, is going to make a game called SimGolf. Her response: "Ummm . . . no. Maybe if they had Civil War reenactments on the green, but . . ." She was not aware of Sid Meier's Gettysburg! or Antietam! She also thinks it would be neat if Meier's first name were Ad. She's cool.

	14-05-2001 22:45									#30
	Suffering from ads?

All SimGolf is is SimCountry Club with Sid Meier doing some playtesting and early design work, and then his name added for increased sales. It's a Maxis game with Sid getting his name attached for thinking of the game. Besides as the Gamespot preview said, its a small little game, not a huge concept like Civ of the Sims. It's a game just begging to be bargain-binned after the initial release period where people who will buy anything with Sid Meier or Sim in the title run out and buy it.