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Even if you don't believe this, the fact that many people do shows how low America has sunk in world opion. My vote is yes; He is doing it. Anybody who would sink to murder for profit, for Iraqi oil, is likely to sink even lower; and ther may be no depths the neocons won't go to.
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William Thomas
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 18:53
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MICROWAVING IRAQ

"Pacifying" Rays Pose New Hazards In Iraqi

By William Thomas

On the rooftop of a shrapnel-pocked building in the ruins of Fallujah, a
team of GI's stealthily sets up a gray plastic dome about two-feet in
diameter. Keeping well back from the sight lines of the street and
nearby buildings, they plug the cable connectors on the side of the
"popper" into a power unit. The grunts have no clue what the device
does. They are just following orders.

"Most of the worker-bees that are placing these do not even know what is
inside the 'domes', just that they were told where to place them by
Intel weenies with usually no nametag," reports my source, a very well
informed combat veteran I will call "Hank".

The grunts call the plastic devices "poppers" or "domes". Once
activated, each hidden transmitter emits a widening circle of invisible
energy capable of passing through metal, concrete and human skulls up to
half a mile away. "They are saturating the area with ULF, VLF and UHF
freqs," Hanks says, with equipment derived from US Navy undersea sonar
and communications.

But its not being used to locate and talk to submarines under Baghdad.

After powering up the unit, the grunts quickly exit the area. It is
their commanders' fervent hope that any male survivors enraged by brutal
American bombardments that damaged virtually every building in this once
thriving "City of Mosques", displacing a quarter-million residents while
murdering thousands of children, women and elders in their homes—will
lose all incentive for further resistance and revenge.

A dedicated former soldier, whose experiences during and after Desert
Storm are chronicled in my book, Bringing The War Home, Hank stays in
close touch with his unit serving "in theater" in Iraq. When I asked how
many "poppers" are being used to irradiate Iraqi neighborhoods, he
checked and got back to me. There are "at least 25 of these that have
been deployed to theater, and used. Some have conked out and been
removed, so I do not know how many are currently active and
broadcasting."

Hank is still losing friends in Iraq, where front-line soldiers put
their current casualty figures from all causes—combat, accidents,
psychological crackups and suicides—at 5,000 dead and 22,000 to 30,000
injured.

Hank also blames those at the top for hospital counts of upwards of
65,000 children killed since the 2003 invasion. He is concerned that
innocent Iraqi families and unsuspecting GIs alike are being used as
test subjects for a new generation of "psychotronic" weapons using
invisible beams across the entire electromagnetic spectrum to
selectively alter moods, behavior and bodily processes.

"The 'poppers' are capable of using a combo of ULF, VLF, UHF and EHF
wavelengths in any combination at the same time, sometimes using one as
a carrier wave for the others," Hank explains, in a process called
superheterodyning. The silent frequencies daily sweeping Fallujah and
other trouble spots are the same Navy "freqs that drove whales nuts and
made them go astray onto beaches."


MICROWAVING IRAQ
The Gulf War veteran observes that occupied Iraq has become a
"saturation environment" of electromagnetic radiation. Potentially
lethal electromagnetic smog from high-power US military electronics and
experimental beam weapons is placing already hard-hit local
populations–-particularly children—at even higher risk of
experiencing serious illness, suicidal depression, impaired cognitive
ability, even death.

American troops constantly exposed "up close" to their own microwave
transmitters, battlefield radars and RF weapons are also seeing their
health eroded by electromagnetic sickness. It's common, Hank recalls,
for GIs to warm themselves on cold desert nights by basking in the
microwaves radiating from their QUEEMS communications and RATT radar
rigs.

Constant microwave emissions from ground-sweeping RATT rigs and SINGARS
mobile microwave networks are much more powerful than civilian microwave
cell phone nets linked in many clinical studies to maladies ranging from
asthma, cataracts, headaches, memory loss, early Alzheimer's, bad dreams
and cancer.

Even more powerful US military radars, radios and "jammers" blasting
from ground bases and overflying aircraft add to this electromagnetic
din.

This is bad enough. But this is also Iraq, Hank says, where ever-present
sand acts as miniature quartz reflectors, unpredictably amplifying the
ricocheting electronic smog so thick that if it were visible, every
vehicle in Baghdad and the surrounding Sunni Triangle would be driving
blind with their headlights on.


THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING
This is grim news to friend and foe alike—already overloaded by
constant adrenal stress, waterborne pollutants, infectious sand fleas,
dehydration, pharmaceutical drugs and exposure to radioactive
Uranium-238 fired in "hose 'em down" exuberance by US ground and air
cannons and cruise missiles.

As Hank puts it, DU is "the gift that keeps on giving." For the next
four billion years, medical investigators say, large populated expanses
of Kosovo, Afghanistan, Puerto Rico and Iraq will remain lethally
radioactive from Made In America depleted uranium dust.

What kind of people would do this?

Clinical tests have repeatedly shown how microwaves "rev up" incipient
cancer cells several hundred times. Triggered by nuclear radiation, and
turned rogue by electromagnetic warfare unleashed by US forces, human
cancer cells have been found to continue proliferating wildly—even
after the power source is turned off


MICROWAVING WOMBS AT GREENHAM COMMON
While the mobile microwave weapons currently deployed in Iraq may or may
not lead to lasting harm, rooftop "poppers" and "domes" left to radiate
for days at a time are irradiating unsuspecting families already coping
with illness, wounds, hunger and the stress of losing homes and loved
ones, whose rotting corpses cannot be buried under the sights of marine
snipers.

A preview of what lies in store for long-suffering families in Iraq can
be gleaned from Greenham Common, where the British Army reportedly used
an electromagnetic weapon against 30,000 women who had camped for nearly
two decades around that UK military base to protest the deployment of
nuclear-tipped US cruise missiles.

One day in the summer of 1984, more than 2,000 British troops suddenly
pulled back, leaving the fence unguarded. Peace mom Kim Besley recalls
that as curious women approached the gate, they "started experiencing
odd health effects: swollen tongues, changed heartbeats, immobility,
feelings of terror, pains in the upper body."

Besley found her 30-year-old daughter too ill to stand. Other symptoms
typical of electromagnetic exposure included skin burns, severe
headaches, drowsiness, post-menopausal menstrual bleeding and
menstruation at abnormal times. Besley's daughter's cycle changed to 14
days and took a year to return to normal.

Two late-term spontaneous miscarriages, impaired speech, and an apparent
circulatory failure prompted the women to begin monitoring for a
directed-energy beam, Using an EMR meter, they measured beams sweeping
their camp at 100-times normal background levels.

Another harrowing example involves the sudden illness and cancer deaths
of US embassy staff in Moscow after being deliberately targeted with
very weak pulsed microwaves by Soviet experimenters and fascinated CIA
onlookers running "Project Phoenix" in 1962.

Very Low Frequency (VLF) weapons include the dozens of "poppers"
currently deployed in Iraq, which can be dialed to or "long wave"
frequencies capable of traveling great distances through the ground or
intervening structures. As air force Lt Col. Peter L. Hays, Director of
the Institute for National Security Studies reveals, "Transmission of
long wavelength sound creates biophysical effects; nausea, loss of
bowels, disorientation, vomiting, potential internal organ damage or
death may occur."

Hays calls VLF weapons "superior" because their directed energy beams do
not lose their hurtful properties when traveling through air to tissue.
A French weapon radiating at 7 hertz "made the people in range sick for
hours."


GI's "DRIVEN NUTS" BY ELECTROMAGENTICS IN IRAQ
Like so many other American blunders among the ruins of Babylon, the
intended microwave "pacification" of rebellious neighborhoods is having
unintended effects. In actual "field-testing" in the Sunni Triangle,
Hank has learned that the hidden, dome-shaped devices "are removing
inhibitions". Armed individuals, already highly motivated to kill
American forces are reportedly "losing all restraint" when exposed to
the electromagnetic beams.

According to Hank's buddies in Baghdad, the frequency-shifting "poppers"
"are having some remarkable effects on the locals as well as our own
people." But these effects differ. Possibly, Hank surmises, because
Americans come from daily domestic and military environments saturated
with electromagnetic frequencies, while many Iraqis still live without
reliable electricity in places largely free from electromagnetics before
the American invasion.

According to members of Hank's former unit, constant exposure to
invisible emissions from radar and radio rigs—as well as to their own
microwave weapons—is backfiring. "Our people are driven nuts," Hank
says. "It makes them stupid for two or three days."

The Desert Storm veteran compared the emotional effects of constant
exposure to military microwaves to a lingering low-pressure weather
system that never goes away. "You feel way down for days at a time," he
emphasizes

As a consequence, AWOL rates among "spaced out" US troops are as high as
15%, Hank reports. For many deserters, it is not cowardice or conscience
that is causing them to absent themselves from duty. "They are feeling
so depressed," Hank explains. "They don't feel good. So they leave."

According to Hank's front-line buddies, Iraqis exposed to secret beam
weapons "get laid back, confused and mellow, and then blast out in a
rage, as opposed to our folks going on what could only be called a
'bender', and turning into a mean drunk for a while."

Once they wander away from direct electromagnetic-fire, startled GIs
come to their senses. They return to their units, Hank explains, saying,
"What was I thinking?"

The recovery rate among US troops "seems to be about a day or so, where
the locals are not getting over it in less than a week or more on
average," Hank has learned.

It is Hank's hope that his revelations will prompt public debate over
the secret use of electromagnetic weapons in Iraq. But lost in the
arguments over these supposedly "non-lethal" weapons is a much bigger
question: What are Americans doing there?

Whether soldier or civilian at home, it is our imperative duty to stop
supporting those responsible for ongoing "weapons tests" in Iraq. As
electrochemical "beings of light," the strongest electromagnetic force
on Earth is human conscience, acted upon.




Author's Bio:
After resigning his US Navy Reserve commission and refusing to
participate in the Vietnam slaughter, William Thomas subsequently served
five months with a three-man environmental emergency response team in
the Gulf during and immediately after Desert Storm. He has written about
military electromagnetics in Scorched Earth and Bringing The War Home,
and has documented other microwave hazards in huis new ebook,
"Dialing Our Cells."

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UHF/VHF... all of those radio waves, irradiating?

Yes, it's part of the EM spectrum, but the energy they have...



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I wouldn´t be surprised. The US military hasn´t hesitated in live tests of new weapons on unsuspecting civilians and even their own troops. The atom boms over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the chemical warfare of the Vietnam War and later Desert Storm is just some examples.

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Even if you don't believe this, the fact that many people do shows how low America has sunk in world opion.


I clciked that link and got three pop ups so I'd advice skipping it. BTW I wouldn't say this proves how low the US has sunk instead I'd say this proves how stupid most of the people in the world really are.

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Bush is doing it? Now that raises the question what he really was serving when he visited the troops on thanksgiving (or was that Brehmer )?

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I wouldn´t be surprised. The US military hasn´t hesitated in live tests of new weapons on unsuspecting civilians and even their own troops. The atom boms over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the chemical warfare of the Vietnam War and later Desert Storm is just some examples.


Do you have any idea what you are talking about? The only "chemical weapons" used in Vietnam was a knock out gas used a handful of times by the special forces then discontinued since it was to weak to be effective and the chain of command wouldn't approve of a higher dossage. There were no "chemical weapons" used in either gulf war and the atom bombs in WW2 were fairly well restrained. By that I mean Japan was repeatedly threatened that unless it surrendered new weapons would be used against it. Japan refused so who is to blame?

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I clciked that link and got three pop ups so I'd advice skipping it. BTW I wouldn't say this proves how low the US has sunk instead I'd say this proves how stupid most of the people in the world really are.


popups? don't tell me you are still using Internet Exploerer.

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I have Firefox but I'm having trouble with its java settings so currently I'm using IE. I'll have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox

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Do you have any idea what you are talking about? The only "chemical weapons" used in Vietnam was a knock out gas used a handful of times by the special forces then discontinued since it was to weak to be effective and the chain of command wouldn't approve of a higher dossage. There were no "chemical weapons" used in either gulf war and the atom bombs in WW2 were fairly well restrained. By that I mean Japan was repeatedly threatened that unless it surrendered new weapons would be used against it. Japan refused so who is to blame?


Just one quible, agent Orange and other defoliants can be considered chemical warfare and they were used very extensively.

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I hope someone is flipping those Iraqis over halfway through the microwave cycle. Nothing worse than scorching the top half, while the bottom half is cold....

It's so hot in Iraq you can cook an egg on the sidewalk.

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That article is funny. It doesn't actually provide evidence.

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It'll never work. They're all messed up by radiation. And why have you been so mellow lately? Hmmm?

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This article is a joke, right?

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Just one quible, agent Orange and other defoliants can be considered chemical warfare and they were used very extensively.


They weren't deliberately used on people no where they? They were designed to kill bushes and trees and the US used them to clear areas near road sides of folliage to prevent ambushes. If you want to play that game then you are likely to be a user of chemical weapons if you have ever used round up to kill weeds in your yard. The better explination though is to understand that no all chemicals are weapons.

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They weren't deliberately used on people no where they? They were designed to kill bushes and trees and the US used them to clear areas near road sides of folliage to prevent ambushes. If you want to play that game then you are likely to be a user of chemical weapons if you have ever used round up to kill weeds in your yard. The better explination though is to understand that no all chemicals are weapons.


The fact that the chemicals were not meant to kill directly does not mean its not chemical warfare- since when does warfare mean only "kills people"? If I burned all the crops of a people to starve them, that is a military tactic that kills no one. Trying to destroy their hinding space is also a military strategy, and those defoliants have caused a lot of environmental problems in Vietnam.

I could use a dum-dum bullet on a deer, but if ai use it against and enemy soldier its a war crime- so what?

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I could use a dum-dum bullet on a deer, but if ai use it against and enemy soldier its a war crime- so what?


I'm not quite following you.

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I'm not kidding, although I'm not 100% certain either.

Every few years, I hear a news story about some brat blowing up a cat in a microwave, so even with simple microwave technology, you can do some nasty things.

Does any of you deny the use of DU, or believe that it's not a chemical or radiological weapon? This sure looks like another technological abomination.

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Can Bush microwave an Iraqi so hot that even He can't liberate it?

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Ari, your avatar is freaking me out.

In response to your question, I assume it's rhetorical. God can do all things.

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I'm not quite following you.


You said civilians can use weed killers, so how can it be chemical warfare...

well, just cause under certain conditions a civilian can do it means nothing to its role in warfare. For example dum-dum bullets are banned for use in warfare-that has nothing to do with civilian actions.

The question is, did those chemicals have a battlefield function? Yes, they were used to create a better battle condition for one army. Its obviously a tool of warfare. Now, this may be a form of chemical warfare that is allowed (I am dubious on that, given the nasty effects of powerful defoliants on the civilian population), but its silly to just say "they used weedkiller, can;t be chemical warfare".

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That is surely abuse of the term.

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Why should I care about the opinion of people that likely also believe that HIV is a man made virus?

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That is surely abuse of the term.


No, its not, no more than including chemical agents as "weapons of mass destruction" is a gross abuse of "mass destruction".

Simple analogy- if some state took a virulent fungus that attacked food crops, and then infected the US food supply, would you classify that as biological warfare, even if the fungus does absolutely 0 harm to humans directly?

Oh, and agent orange is not just a "weed killer", it is a powerful defoliant meant to kill plansts- you think food plants are unaffacted by it, or human beings breathing the stuff? (yeah, just spritz that weed killer all over yourself and your kids, its harmless!)

 
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