29-01-2005 07:45									#1
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This is the Team Euphorica public viewing thread (until such time as MarkG gives us our own forum!)

Topic up for debate: What to name the game?

* Masters of War
* Eve (or dawn) of Destruction
* Pangea Eruptus

What shall our selection be?

	29-01-2005 07:51									#2
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	29-01-2005 08:02									#3
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And with this discovery (of the Abba cover by Euphorica) comes the question ... what song will describe our team?

01. Dancing Queen
02. S. O. S .
03. Take a Chance on Me
04. Mamma Mia
05. Lay All Your Love on Me
06. Knowing Me, Knowing You
07. Voulez Vous
08. Super Trooper
09. The Name of the Game
10. The Winner Takes It All

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/pro...productId=52939 is the link to that list and the previews.

I nominate another Abba! song (not Euphorica sadly): Gimme Gimme Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)...

But if we stick to the Euphorica covers, I go for "The Winner Takes It All"...

	29-01-2005 15:36									#4
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Wow, I didn't know Euphorica was used by others. I just made it up.

08. Super Trooper might become a heroic song too.
Hopefully we don't need to go:
02. S.O.S.
At least we could still dress up an become:
01. Dancing Queen
And all the other teams would go:
04. Mamma Mia
But hey, what's
09. The name of the game?

.... I'd say Pangea Eruptus. But that won't be a suprise as I've proposed it in the main thread. There's a lot of violence in most names. Isn't there a smallish chance that we'll coexist in a peacefull manner with one another?

	29-01-2005 16:07									#5
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Part of the game and not an exploit to me. I feel that if a civ gains a(n early) advantage, the other civs will respond. In a small game like IC it might be too unbalanced [Bongo built SoZ with SGL very early and whiped the others out, eventhough they had allied]. Here, with 6 civs there's plenty of oppurtunity to take joint countermeasurements.

I can understand the counterarguments. If most feel it is too unbalancing and don't have trust in cooperation with other civs I'd suggest (as I allready did) to allow SGL only for a scientific golden age. Cheating is very obvious and I can't imagine a whole team will support that anyway.

[edit]
Just read your argument that SGL's are useless for a SGA. How's that? I thought it doubled the science rate in a city for 20 turns. I would favour a SGL for the scientific civs to have some use above no SGL at all. It devalues the scientific civs. [/edit]

Last edited by McMeadows on 29-01-2005 at 16:25

	29-01-2005 17:06									#6
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Team leaders: (AP, set,work,war,map,water)
Snoopy369: NO, 6,3,3,small,60

Have choices allready been made? As you have read I favour:
NO, 3,3,0,small,80

	29-01-2005 23:14									#7
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Scientific Golden Age doesn't work. It says you have a shorter time frame to the tech, but you end up with "1 turn to ..." for a long time... as i'm told anywho i've only tried it once and i didn't pay attention to the tech rate. But it seems to be the accepted fact among those who know such things ...

	30-01-2005 00:57									#8
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So this is my new team I guess.

My email is rhothaerill TA comcast TOD com for any that don't have it.

Umm, what civ are we playing or has that not been decided yet (or did I just miss it)?

	30-01-2005 01:00									#9
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Also we need to fill out this stuff..

Adjective:
Noun:
Leader:
Title:
Color:


Or we'll end up being called the Firgurehead like GhengisFarb's feudal team at MZO. They couldn't decide on a name so the game map creator (Chieftess) gave them the name "figurehead" as that was what they had put down so far...only she spelled it wrong.

	30-01-2005 01:15									#10
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China is the current leader, although Japan and Rome are still in the running I think... and maybe ottomans, although that UU is reeeeally late.

ROFL on the chieftess thing btw

And good to see you here Rhoth! You're a valuable addition, yada yada, and I expect you to tell us when we're being dorks at a minimum

	30-01-2005 01:23									#11
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Any of those four is fine with me, though I like the timing of the knight-equivalent UUs. Of the two I prefer the Rider, but I also like the Samurai too. It's more of a tradeoff of "do we want the industrious trait or the religious trait".

Having the Ottomans would give more research power, but less military power and the late UU as you mentioned.

Overall, I'd say go with China.

	30-01-2005 01:37									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Also we need to fill out this stuff.. Adjective: Chinese Noun: China Leader: Sun Tzu Title: Shang Ti Color: Yellow?

Shang-Ti is the Chinese word for "Emperor (lord) of Heaven" ... playing on chinese mythos and the "Mandate of Heaven" which is supposed to be the basis for authority of Chinese leaders dating back three thousand years... could also use "Favored of Heaven". (Or just "Emperor" if you're going to be boring ... )

Could also use Lao Tzu or Kung Fu Tzu (Confucius) as leader name ... I'm not a big fan of the Mao name given it's a modern name and, well, we're not making it to the modern period i don't think But I like the more militarist name (and recognizable name) of Sun Tzu...

	30-01-2005 01:40									#13
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All of that info works for me for a straight Chinese civ...but how do they tie in with the Euphorica name?

Maybe with the Abba connection we could do leader names, etc. having to do with Abba. Perhaps have cities named after music, etc.

Just a thought.

	30-01-2005 01:43									#14
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Oh one more thing...once we get a private forum I will recreate for us some information, templates, etc. that I have used in other democracy games.

Vox Controli was fairly unorganized when I joined it (after the failed GS war) and I left it that way since only Beta and Witt were still involved until snoop and Con came along. But for another demo game I did a lot of internal structure work to provide a reference so we didn't have to go searching for information all over the place.

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	30-01-2005 02:09									#15
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Sounds good Rhoth!

Oh, i suppose RP is acceptable ... sigh ...

<< is a sucky RPer though

I don't even know the names of ABBA ... and am annoyed that Verdana doesn't have a backwards B ..

Anywho please suggset names and such folks

	30-01-2005 02:19									#16
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How about this...

Adjective: Music Lover
Noun: Music Lover
Leader: Bjorn
Title: First Singer
Color: White (it messes others up into thinking we're barbs)

That's just a thought...if anyone has anything better than go ahead and suggest it. I just did a search since I don't know a whole lot about Abba and "Bjorn" is a better name than "Benny"

	30-01-2005 02:30									#17
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How about Lead Singer?

Bjorn yes that is the lead singer i think... the one who's name i've heard anywho

	30-01-2005 02:32									#18
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 How about Lead Singer? Bjorn yes that is the lead singer i think... the one who's name i've heard anywho

Works for me.

	30-01-2005 02:35									#19
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And i suppose white makes sense for ABBA anywho, otherwise we could take silver (gray) or gold (yellow)... or something bright. 80's rule!

	30-01-2005 02:40									#20
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Another thing we'll need is a Civgroup icon for when Mark sets up the forums. How about a music note? I'm not very good with computer graphics so if any of you are maybe we can get an icon done. Otherwise we can ask Ghengis Farb as he has designed several good icons for Civgroups.

Actually this is something that all the teams will need to do if you want to start the conversation on that snoop.

	30-01-2005 02:44									#21
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I too say that "Pangea Eruptus" would definately fit the bill for this game!

	30-01-2005 02:47									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill How about this... Adjective: Music Lover Noun: Music Lover Leader: Bjorn Title: First Singer Color: White (it messes others up into thinking we're barbs) That's just a thought...if anyone has anything better than go ahead and suggest it. I just did a search since I don't know a whole lot about Abba and "Bjorn" is a better name than "Benny"

Rhoth, I concur with your suggestion...especially having our color be white.

	30-01-2005 04:58									#23
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Adjective: Euphoriscian (Euphorica-musician)
Noun: Euphoriscian
Leader: Bjorn Tzu
Title: Lead Singer
Color: White

I like white too, it is so peacefull...

	30-01-2005 05:10									#24
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I vote for mcm's there i think, involves our name...

	30-01-2005 06:04									#25
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Good point Snoopy...ok, I too throw my vote in for McMeadow's suggestion.

What do you say Rhoth?

	30-01-2005 09:38									#26
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I like McM's suggestion too.

Oh wait - wrong team. Personally - I really liked snoop's earlier stuff, but then I'm a history geek.

Abba and civ3 - give me a break. And I've seen Mama Mia three times.

	30-01-2005 13:49									#27
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Bjorn and Benny wrote the songs. Agnetha and Anni-fred sang the songs and gave the boys sex for a while.

And I think you guys should be France....then you can name yourselves Waterloo and get annihilated

	30-01-2005 13:55									#28
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows Adjective: Euphoriscian (Euphorica-musician) Noun: Euphoriscian Leader: Bjorn Tzu Title: Lead Singer Color: White I like white too, it is so peacefull...

I say it sounds great. Better than my half-hearted attempt at the adjective and noun.

	30-01-2005 20:23									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 And I think you guys should be France....then you can name yourselves Waterloo and get annihilated

Aqua - I think that will happen with whatever civ they choose.

	30-01-2005 21:23									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Beta Aqua - I think that will happen with whatever civ they choose.

And you think it's gonna be any different for Team "we're all shaking in our boots" Babylon 5 ?

Muahahahahaha <--- mad scientist laugh

Ummm......bye