31-01-2005 06:11									#31
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Best:

Saving Private Ryan
Black Hawk Down
Patton

Worst:

Thin Red Line

	31-01-2005 06:15									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Best: Saving Private Ryan Black Hawk Down Patton Worst: Thin Red Line

What? Not land and freedom?
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	31-01-2005 06:21									#33
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Paths of Glory

Cross of Iron

Platoon

Apocalypse Now

The Bridge on the River Kwai

Patton

The Dirty Dozen

The Guns of Navarone (its one of my favorites, even if it is not as good as the others)

The Great Escape

Glory (with Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman)

These are the best ones I can recall right now.

	31-01-2005 06:32									#34
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Oh, I forgot The Thin Red Line.

	31-01-2005 07:21									#35
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Patton - George C Scott was great and I really like the epic scope of the movie., e.g., the Battle at El Guitar.

Tora Tora Tora - By far the best version of the attack on Pearl Harbor. While the recent version got a big star, they made the mistake of focusing too much on him. That time was better spent focusing on the leaders and decisions of both forces like T T T with better special effects.

Kelly's Heroes - Just downright entertaining, what a GREAT cast with Donald Sutherland and "Moriarti" (Gavin McCloud? the guy from Mary Tyler Moore show)stealing alot of the best scenes. And the Tiger Is were cool...

Saving Private Ryan - Just on the initial D-Day scene alone, but the battle at the end was good too with great mock up units we hardly ever see in WWII movies.

We Were Soldiers - very realistic, like SPR but the action is nearly constant. This movie shows why the N Viets changed more to guerilla warfare because they got slaughtered in more conventional battles.

Das Boot - very realistic, the best sub movie.

Platoon

Full Metal Jacket

Glory - great musical score and great cast - Denzel was Oscar worthy and Freeman was good (hell, even Broderick was good).

Sink the Bismark - considering it was made in 1960 and black and white it had pretty darned good battle scenes.
Watching the Hood blow up was awesome.

Braveheart

	31-01-2005 07:27									#36
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Another great war film: The Cranes Are Flying

although we don't actually see that much of the war.

I also really liked Cold Mountain. I think I'm in the minority though.

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	31-01-2005 08:01									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Alex The Bridge on the River Kwai

Just watched this morning. It really is an interesting study about how project can triumph over purpose...almost.

	31-01-2005 08:01									#39
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seven years of filming, $100 million dollars in 1967(!), each battle recreated using tens of thousands of soldiers thus giving this film a truly epic scope and appearance which isn't likely to ever be duplicated if simply because of the cost.

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All's Quiet on the Western Front, 1930
Paths of Glory, 1956

These two are my favorite war movies. MOst good WW1 films tend to be anti-war films, and I am fine with that. Plus the battle scenes are great.

I would like to see Westfront, from 1930 as well, German. Never have seen it.

	31-01-2005 08:40									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko What? Not land and freedom? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=video&n=507846

Never seen it, let alone heard of it. Interesting story line. However, is it anti-Franco? Cause my grandfather served under Franco.

Anyways, We Were Soldiers was also a great movie. Tora Tora Tora I saw on AMC a bit ago.. very good. Too bad the recent Pearl Harbor was a stupid love flick, rather then a war movie.

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Fez, Franco was not a good man and he did some very horrible things to Republicans in Spain. It would have been much better for the people of spain and for Spain as a nation if the Republicans and not the Facists had ruled the country for those 35 years.

	31-01-2005 08:47									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Fez, Franco was not a good man and he did some very horrible things to Republicans in Spain. It would have been much better for the people of spain and for Spain as a nation if the Republicans and not the Facists had ruled the country for those 35 years.

Neither side were good, and committed horrific crimes. It would have been much better for the people of spain that we be ruled by the "republicans"? The "republicans" were ****ing stalinists, they were going to set up a dictatorship anyways. Joseph Stalin had it all figured out. It would of ruined our country. We would of ended up like some eastern bloc countries, like Belarus.

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There were three Factions to the civil war that I know of The Republicans who were backed by France and to a lesser extent the UK, the Facists (who called themselves Nationalists) backed by Nazi Germany & Mussolini's Italy, and the smallest group were the communists who were backed by the USSR.

Near the end the Republicans and the Communists did make common cause against the larger facist armies but that was simply an act of desperation instead of ideological unity.

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Facism or communism? That was the choice? What a sh*thole that must have been to live in.

Just kidding G

	31-01-2005 09:03									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin There were three Factions to the civil war that I know of The Republicans who were backed by France and to a lesser extent the UK, the Facists (who called themselves Nationalists) backed by Nazi Germany & Mussolini's Italy, and the smallest group were the communists who were backed by the USSR. Near the end the Republicans and the Communists did make common cause against the larger facist armies but that was simply an act of desperation instead of ideological unity.

No comment. I'm not going to make any statements that people can use against me here. I'm just saying that Stalin would not let the situation go to waste and he was exploiting for his own purposes. That's all I'm going to say.

	31-01-2005 09:11									#47
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I'm kinda surprised no one's mentioned A Bridge Too Far. Probably not the best, but certainly pretty darn solid.

	31-01-2005 09:22									#48
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Fez

quote: There were three Factions to the civil war that I know of The Republicans who were backed by France and to a lesser extent the UK, the Facists (who called themselves Nationalists) backed by Nazi Germany & Mussolini's Italy, and the smallest group were the communists who were backed by the USSR. Near the end the Republicans and the Communists did make common cause against the larger facist armies but that was simply an act of desperation instead of ideological unity.

It was somewhat more complicated then that: there was a split among the Commies between the left-wing (represented by the union POUM) who advocated revolution, siding with the anarcho-syndicalists (represented by the CNT); and the Stalinists (PSUC) who opposed the revolution. The Stalinists eventually came to dominate the gov't as the Soviet Union was the only major state that didn't have an arms embargo with the Republicans (including France and the UK), so extorted the Republican gold reserves and gov't policy through their arms sales. Eventually, the Stalinists and their liberal allies destroyed the POUM, CNT, and the revolution. And were in turn destroyed by the Nationalists.

	31-01-2005 09:26									#49
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Anyways, best are Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Das Boot, and All Quiet on the Western Front.

For worst, I'll go with Troy. Or the Patriot.

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Hmmm, Apocalypse Now is my favorite by a long chalk - if you can call it a war movie. The Thin Red line, Das Boot, All Quiet on the Western Front, For King and Country.

Worst? Well there have been so many - the Battle of the Bulge would have to come close - the last reels are filimed in a desert, instead of forests because they ran out of money.

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THIN RED LINE WAS HORRIBLE!

what kind of war movie doesn't have any war?

I fell asleep...

	31-01-2005 09:48									#52
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I'm gonna make myself infamous now by saying I thought Pearl Harbor was better than Tora Tora Tora. Though I think I do need to see TTT again to reevaluate, but I didn't care for it much. I spent most of the movie anxious for it to be over. Just didn't have the drama of the new one, it was kinda matter of fact. Eh.

I didn't mind the romance stuff in Pearl Harbor. Maybe they could have scaled it back a touch, but overall it wasn't a deal killer. The raid at the end I do think was pretty dumb, anti-climatic, and unnecessarily lengthened the movie.

I'm amazed only one person has mentioned Braveheart so far. One of the best movies ever, war or anything.

I didn't mind Troy either. Not one of the greatest for sure, but overall I thought it was a good movie.

I liked Blackhawk Down too. It felt very real. I could identify with the men in that more than in other movies. It felt like less of a caracature of soldiers. I dunno.

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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP I'm gonna make myself infamous now by saying I thought Pearl Harbor was better than Tora Tora Tora.

This is why your teen-voting campaign is doomed to failure.

	31-01-2005 09:53									#54
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I threw up during one part of the Blackhawk Down (ran to the bathroom thank goodness).. when they were getting a bullet if I remember right out of a guy... a really bloody scene.. talk about realism.

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Of the one's mentioned, put me down for Apocalypse Now, Paths of Glory, and Das Boot. Add to that:

Grand Illusion
Gallipoli
M*A*S*H
Three Kings

and an obscure little movie called A Midnight Clear, which it seems nobody I know has ever seen (but I'll bet someone here has).

	31-01-2005 10:06									#56
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Thin Red Line.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Thin Red Line.

Just for that, I lost all respect for you totally.

Ted Striker

	31-01-2005 10:38									#58
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The Great Escape
The Bridge on the River Kwai
A Bridge Too Far
The Dam Busters
Gallipoli

A special mention for Escape to Victory. Sylvester Stallone is about as good a goalkeeper as he is an actor, and it has Pelé (and many other footballers) in it, even though theyre all terrible actors.

Worst war film ever - Braveheart

	31-01-2005 10:42									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident my brother says it's not half bad and I should watch it. But I never seem to watch new movies anymore anyways, so I haven't watched it.

Fast forward the first half and you will be OK. 2Nd is OK kinda.

	31-01-2005 12:07									#60
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Ah, Grand Illusion, I forgot that. Good pick.