31-01-2005 04:34									#1
	C3CDG: Desolation Row - Discussion Thread Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Welcome, fellow team members of Desolation Row.

The rest of you can bugger off right now

Ok, here is our very own discussion thread (until we get our own forum) to talk about things such as leaderhead name, and vital important issues in the wheels of progress such as team noun, team adjective, team philosophy, team sponsors, team shoes, and team diet and any special team recipes.

	31-01-2005 04:35									#2
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Map Settings:

Age: ?
Water: ?
Temperature: ?

Other:

Figurehead: ?
Team Theme: ?
Goal: ?
Philosophy:?
Adjective: ?
Noun: ?
Title: ?
Colour: ?

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	01-02-2005 04:06									#3
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My vote is for

3 billion
Wet
Hot

	01-02-2005 15:17									#4
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we have a team thread?

my opinions:

Map Settings:
Ocean: 60% (with 6 players on small it's too squashed otherwise)
Age: 3 or 4 billion years
Water: wet
Temperature: warm

Other:
Figurehead: something hairy?
Goal: victory!
Colour: is black possible? otherwise some dark grey?

i the other things do not really matter to me.

	01-02-2005 15:25									#5
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can someone enlighten me how we are going to play?

- we are spread pretty well around the world to guarantee the round being played in time. but... when do we know if we should play the round or wait for captain aqualung?

- it is clear that strategic decisions are made democratically. but how about the more specific stuff, eg. build order? and what about the detailed stuff such as scouting warriors, city micromanagement, etc?

- turnchats? if we use them, what to use? IRC? MSN? ICQ? skype?

i havn't joined a DG since the first one using civ3 vanilla. that was against the AI only and imho each turn got discussed to death.

	01-02-2005 15:46									#6
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Age: 3 billion
Water: 60%
Temperature: temperate

Other:

Figurehead: Persia
Team Theme: Dagger up the strap!
Goal: Cause as much grief to other teams as we can, even if we can't conquer them.
Philosophy: Pillage
Adjective: ?
Noun: ?
Title: ?
Colour: ?

I prefer to use MSN for chatting.

Thanks for letting me on the team.

	01-02-2005 16:27									#7
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Welcome aboard Mas

MSN is good, I use it too.

As for how to play the turns, it falls to me as team leader to take the main responsibility for actual playing of the turns. However, I can guarantee that I won't be able to play them every day, in which case someone else will need to step in, so that then depends on timing.

My best time for playing is early in the morning or at night, so probably GMT2300-2400 or GMT 1200-1600. If I don't manage to play the turn I can easily email the turn to any one of you from work (where I can't play the turn). Discussions on strategy,etc, should be via email. For more detailed stuff such as build queues we should probably setup MSN chat times to discuss build priorities and worker job assignments for the next 5 turns or so.

Micromanagement is something we need to focus on, since we can be sure the other teams will be good at it, so we need to get it right.

Comments, suggestions?

	01-02-2005 17:58									#8
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I'm off work until March so except from about GMT 15.00 to 2400 I'll be able to take place in discussions or play the turn.

	01-02-2005 19:20									#9
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Hi guys.

I vote for standard map.

Definitely want black, our leaderhead ought to be the Grim Reaper.

	01-02-2005 19:48									#10
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hi guys

after solomwi's icons, i decided to try one of my own.

it probably doesn't show very well, but it should be a skull with crossed bones (like a pirate flag)

i used this as base drawing: http://www.bilderberg.org/weekly.jpg

if you like the idea, i can do some more pixel editing to make things clearer. the DR is quite small at the moment. using different colors could make it more readable. but imho black and gray are "our" colors.

input/feedback?

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	01-02-2005 19:53									#11
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here the inverse version, except that i kept the central part black. although it's not as clear anymore, it's possibly a bit more "spooky"

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	01-02-2005 19:59									#12
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It'll be good if you can get it a bit clearer.

By the way, please take the masuro33 at hotmail dot com off your mailing lists. I think the euphrates address will be fine.

	01-02-2005 19:59									#13
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just text here...

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	01-02-2005 20:00									#14
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and another modified negative version...

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	01-02-2005 20:05									#15
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or - last for the moment - a simple one.

the space beneath could also be used for something else. a pentagram, a upside-down-cross, ...

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	01-02-2005 20:25									#16
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Whichever design we choose, I think black letters on a grey background is clearer and more attractive.

	01-02-2005 21:49									#17
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Sabre, I LOVE the skull and crossbones - it depicts us perfectly.....the first design is more striking, but the second design I think is clearer.

And I agree with Trip.....black or dark grey colour.

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	01-02-2005 21:57									#18
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Can we use the Grim Reaper for our leaderhead? Like, get a gif or jpeg sized correctly and substitute it for the Persian leaderhead in the Conquests folders?

How's this?

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	02-02-2005 03:07									#19
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great picture

i could resize it but i don't think anybody will replace their leaderheads in the local folders. and we don't see our own figure

but let us use it for our threads

	02-02-2005 04:10									#20
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Sabrewolf

I especially like the skull & crossbones, and agree that black on silver/gray background looks best (but of course, I'm a Raider fan, so that's to be expected ). I'm good with any map settings, and see my sig for my vote on goal and philosophy.

For any of you unfamiliar with the NFL's Oakland Raiders (even though this one's gray on black, it's on a silver helmet, which serves to pretty much reverse the effect)...

	02-02-2005 06:23									#21
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Booo, I protest being labelled by that team's logo.

	02-02-2005 06:36									#22
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That guy sure looks friendly for a pillager.

	02-02-2005 06:37									#23
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But maybe he just enjoys his work.

	02-02-2005 08:00									#24
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I also say no to the Oakland Raiders. I'd say yes to Miami Dolphins though, if it didn't make us all look like nancy-boys

Back to one of Sabre's skull and crossbone logos I say. I think the one with the white background is more striking.

	02-02-2005 08:20									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 I also say no to the Oakland Raiders. I'd say yes to Miami Dolphins though, if it didn't make us all look like nancy-boys Back to one of Sabre's skull and crossbone logos I say. I think the one with the white background is more striking.

Well, at least I don't feel so bad about being a Bears fan ...

	02-02-2005 09:11									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 I also say no to the Oakland Raiders. I'd say yes to Miami Dolphins though, if it didn't make us all look like nancy-boys Back to one of Sabre's skull and crossbone logos I say. I think the one with the white background is more striking.

Ahh, so this is what I get for underestimating the NFL's appeal.

To be clear, I just wanted to make sure you damn furriners knew what I meant when I claimed Raiderfandom.

Btw snoopy, if the Bears wind up with Ronnie Brown in the first round, you'll be seeing me as a Bears fan, too.

	02-02-2005 09:31									#27
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Sounds good. Ronnie Brown it is ... make it so ...

Anywho I need some stuff from you all in a PM from 'Lung ASAP: Civ Details!!

Name:
Adj:
Leader:
Title:
Color:

Pics and whatever can come later. Let's get the game started...

	02-02-2005 19:35									#28
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the only NFL we ever get to see here is the super bowl. and that's usually too late and too long to watch. i think the only game i ever saw to the end was about 6 years ago (green bay packers vs. ??) where there was a 98 yard punt return (don't kill me if i am using the wrong expressions)

but to be honest... american football is imho nothing more than rugby (imho tough sport) with lots of breaks and paddings. i prefer "real" rugby ...

but enough OT from me. ronnie brown as name? are you sure?


about the skull icon(s): in that case i'll start doing some pixel editing to make it slightly more distiguishable.

	03-02-2005 03:53									#29
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From the Mongol team: You guys are welcome to take the Raiders...but in New England...we know who won the AFC, hehehehehe

	03-02-2005 19:34									#30
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ok, quit the irrelevant NFL chat.

I've emailed you all on some important items to finalise. Please respond either here or by email, cos we need to tell Snoop and OPD how we wish to be addressed for all eternity!