02-02-2005 00:47									#31
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Kids are stupid. Look at me. I was a Republican when I was a kid.

	02-02-2005 01:09									#32
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quote: Students are asked to memorize the amendment

Where?

Students don't know crap about civics because they aren't required to study it. I doubt half of the high schoolers actually know what the 1st Amendment protects. Hell, 75% of students think burning a flag is illegal!

	02-02-2005 01:46									#33
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And on which birthday do they miraculously and suddenly acquire the knowledge they never had before?

	02-02-2005 02:00									#34
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When they go to college, which does a much better job of teaching civics.

	02-02-2005 02:06									#36
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You disagree? Are you insane?

	02-02-2005 02:36									#37
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I was lucky to have a good US Government teacher in High School

	02-02-2005 02:38									#38
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I wish that 'US Government' was mandatory in High School.

	02-02-2005 02:40									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I wish that 'US Government' was mandatory in High School.

	02-02-2005 02:41									#40
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Hey Ogie, how did you enjoy the freaking ice storm that tore in through Georgia this weekend? Freaking unbelievable!

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Hey Ogie, how did you enjoy the freaking ice storm that tore in through Georgia this weekend? Freaking unbelievable!

Yeah it was coolio. Work shut down early at 2:30. I went to the store to stock up but lines were freakin wild so we decided to risk it and go w/o groceries.

I 'member being down here in Atlanta on business the year Atlanta hosted the superbowl '96 or '98. They had an even worse ice sorm that bascially destroyed every pine wiyhin eyesight. Amazing.

Anyway its back to normal for now. Beats livin in the snowbound Northeast. (suckers :lol

	02-02-2005 02:52									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Or maybe its because it has been proven over and over that Americans are generally simply less intelligent than the rest of the developed world? OMFFG PWND!!1

Your attempts to fit in are admirable.

	02-02-2005 02:55									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Yeah it was coolio. Work shut down early at 2:30. I went to the store to stock up but lines were freakin wild so we decided to risk it and go w/o groceries. I 'member being down here in Atlanta on business the year Atlanta hosted the superbowl '96 or '98. They had an even worse ice sorm that bascially destroyed every pine wiyhin eyesight. Amazing. Anyway its back to normal for now. Beats livin in the snowbound Northeast. (suckers :lol

Yep .

Speaking of the SuperBowl, how's the Eagles party coming along?

	02-02-2005 02:58									#44
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I am a optimistic fatalist.

I'll simply crow on Monday. Till then mums the word.

* Ogie Oglethorpe hopes his bet with all the band wagon jumping Pats fans pays off.

	02-02-2005 02:59									#45
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Have the house all decked out in Green and Silver? Listening to Kincaid on 680 The Fan (the big Eagles fan in Atlanta SportsTalk).

	02-02-2005 03:23									#46
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Imran: I have actually learned very little about the US government in college - I haven't taken a single course on that subject. My high school civics course was actually quite good though, if a little simplistic.

	02-02-2005 03:27									#47
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Most people will take the US government class in college. Usually they have a reputation for being 'easy' and fulfill a social sciences requirement.

High school civics is also not required in every district and a lot of times less people will take it, because of all the requirements that do exist to finish high school (college is more open).

	02-02-2005 03:28									#48
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	02-02-2005 03:32									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Most people will take the US government class in college. Usually they have a reputation for being 'easy' and fulfill a social sciences requirement. High school civics is also not required in every district and a lot of times less people will take it, because of all the requirements that do exist to finish high school (college is more open).

This is exactly why I think the state and federal governments need to get over their "you are required to do this and this stadardized assignment and/or test" fetish and LET THE TEACHERS TEACH!

	02-02-2005 03:47									#50
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Yes, but I'm proposing "you are required to" teach civics .

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Kincaid:

Buck:

	02-02-2005 04:35									#52
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The one-third who believe in censorship are the same one-third who will volunteer for the Mobile Infantry after they graduate. They will become citizens and the others won't.

	02-02-2005 06:44									#53
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Civics class was a requirement in my high school. Not only that, but the school insisted that seniors register to vote. Since then, I've missed only one election.

As for those who believe in censorship, they'll find out at some point in life how horribly wrong they were in their youth.

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	02-02-2005 07:55									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Kincaid: Buck:

Rude and Dukes



I did notice how Kincaid was backing up Freddie Mitchell for being an idiot, but if he was on another team, there would be an "On the Carpet".

	02-02-2005 08:30									#55
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I say the third of the kids who are budding dictators, should be taken to new schools, made to wear uniforms, denied all electornic equipment, and beaten if they speak out of turn or misbehave. They should be happy with that sort of discipline.

	02-02-2005 08:37									#56
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm "America - the land of the free" . This is where a state-funded education is going to get you . And your cries of "But we didn't want to raise kids like this !" will be stifled by the very kids you raised . Keep it up , and you will realise that this is just the begginning . Of your socialist end .

The article makes no mention of how they feel about socialism. If anything we are raising them to be authoritarian.

	02-02-2005 08:41									#57
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Kids are stupid. Look at me. I was a Republican when I was a kid.

Kids rights

Locking kids in the closet

	02-02-2005 08:45									#58
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Is it any wonder there is a lack of respect for the first amendment among individuals forced into schools that blatantly disrespect it? How can someone truly respect and learn an appreciation for an amendment that at best is an abstraction, and at worst is a cruel joke. Students are asked to memorize the amendment, but it is never applied to their own lives. No wonder many are misinformed and cynical.

It is applied to their own lives. WHEN THEY GROW UP! Why wouldn't they want freedom of speech when they grow up, if they are oppressed now?

	02-02-2005 09:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Rude and Dukes

Granted, but then, I'm an old offensive lineman, so I have a soft spot for Dukes. Buck is still living off one pass to Lindsay Scott and the ability to hand the ball to Herschel Walker every play.

I honestly don't care one way or the other about Kincaid, though I highly suspect you're dead on. I just can't stand Belue.

	02-02-2005 10:15									#60
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I think you're overanalysing this data...

Every kid must finish High School in US in order to continue their studies, right? Do you still remember how seriously these standardised tests were taken when you were in compulsory school?

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