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Mead is offline Mead
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Aug 2003
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I downloaded and looked at the turn.

Still no nasty surprises.

It looks like the continued tech acquisitions from Uni are still a good plan.

I can see no Spartan unit. (other than the elite probe parked in Mendelez college).


Mead

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Oh, yeah

There's a MW threatening Whohabitat.

Yang, Lal, and Zak still don't want to talk.


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Our 'Gator Boat has found a Datatech city! Let's start wheeling and dealing!

I assume we don't want to try attacking their probe team for infiltration. Unless negotiations are unfruitful, of course.

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Our 'Gator Boat has found a Datatech city! Let's start wheeling and dealing!

I assume we don't want to try attacking their probe team for infiltration. Unless negotiations are unfruitful, of course.


Jtisyoda

Attach the screnshot, please.

By wheeling and dealing I need to know what we want.

I'm thinking we are ahead with tech and cash.

We want some tech perhaps, plus trade, plus intell on Sparta and the Gaians commlink.

I think the Gaian Comm link will be hardest to get.


Do we wish to dispatch two more gator boats down to th DA city to ensure we get infiltration?


I can enter into negotions with the DA. How much time do we have to make a deal.


Gods please grant us a delay if necessary.

Do the DA know we are there?

If so, I will make introductions. If not, then let's think about it.


Mead


PS

If I were the Spartans and if we (the Morgans) were to get a treaty or Pact with the DA, I would accelerate my plan to conquer Morgan based upon the DA contact.

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We have about 17 hours to play the turn. I have to go to sleep now. By extreme luck, I have the day off tomorrow, so I can play at the last minute and provide at least some input during negotiations.

The screenshot was attached in my previous post. If you need a mid-turn save, here it is...

I haven't contacted the Angels, and I kind of doubt they saw us on their previous turn.

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We have about 17 hours to play the turn. I have to go to sleep now. By extreme luck, I have the day off tomorrow, so I can play at the last minute and provide at least some input during negotiations.

The screenshot was attached in my previous post. If you need a mid-turn save, here it is...

I haven't contacted the Angels, and I kind of doubt they saw us on their previous turn.



So, do you want me to contact them?

I think we should to try to begin trades and commerce.


Mead

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There is also a Spartan port just out of sight of the Hunter. I'd rather ally with the Angels and infiltrate the Spartans, if possible. The Spartans are much more dangerous right now.

Yes, please contact them.

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There is also a Spartan port just out of sight of the Hunter. I'd rather ally with the Angels and infiltrate the Spartans, if possible. The Spartans are much more dangerous right now.

Yes, please contact them.


Roger that.

I concur that the Spartans are more dangerous now.

I will contact the DA.

Mead

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Ah, most excellent! Yet another market that opens for our goods!
The Angels, well, a bunch of coputer freaks; they will surely need fastfood, beverages and hardware...

* Micha rushes off to the marketing department to get some Angel-oriented advertising going.

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Welcome on Planet.

Greetings to the Morgans,

We've anticipated for a while contact with our Morgan neighbours, and are glad we have finally met.

As for the short timeframe you wish us to decide whether or not to conduct friendly relations and trades of sorts, I can at this stage only say that the Morgans may put a Treaty offer in the next diplomatic cache and by the time our administration is able to proces it our future relations will be discussed throughly in our Network, and with you of course.

Sincerely,
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He who knows himself is enlightened. -- Lao Tsu



I will tell him we are placing the Treaty in the Diplo Box.

Please do so.


We can work on the tech and other trades later. We need to get the income now.


Mead

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Zak has Synth Fossil Fuels. You can bet your bottom that the Spartans have it, too. (Zak is now on Intel Integ, completing in 21 years.) We'll have 2 probes with chances to steal it from him in a few turns.

We stole Supercon from Yang. Unfortunately, we didn't get Opt Comp, and we lost that Gator Boat. The other Gator Boat in the vicinity is threatened by an IOD. If it can survive until next turn somehow, we can steal Opt Comp, the tech we don't want to steal from Zak (he has other goodies ). There's a new Gator Boat coming out of RFR, but it won't get to Yang before our probes land near Mendelev.

I retreated the Gator Boat near the Angel/Datatech city "Heaven's Gate," so technically I don't think they know what kind of ship is lurking in their waters. Should this ship continue exploring their coastline, look for the Gaians, or head for Lal? Lal is now the tech leader, by the way. There's a chance he's researching DAP for the Spartans, or has already completed it.

I pre-accepted a treaty with the Angels. We can continue talking to them about more detailed transactions in the coming week.

End-turn save is attached for suggestions, especially build queues, since money's already been spent and units have already moved. If there are any changes, I'll do them a little before the deadline.

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No changes found and no complaints, provided that some of the finishing bases start making some crawlers next turn. ;-)

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Ok, some more crawlers will be queued up next time.

We popped a materials pod. Silly me, I picked a Plasma Probe, rover chassis, aka Gator Buggy. This was before I thought to design a Plasma Rover Supply. Oh, well, we still prototype Plasma armor this way.

Yang is building literally nothing but Gatling units. That's 6 Gat rovers, 9 Gat infantry, 2 Gat arties, and a Gat ship.

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Central view...

Note that the fungus has spread in the north, destroying our road and farm near Yoda Soda. We may have to build a few scouts and go knock that tower out.

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Not much to see to the west...

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Some new terrain uncovered to the southeast...

Note the red base outline near the Hunter... probably a Spartan port.

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Shame about the Gator Boat.

I don't think that the other boat will last the turn unless there is another unit next to it in the fungus.

I am happy that you offered the treaty. Any deals that occur now will result in them placing thier offer (tech) in the diplo box (pre-approved, yes?) befor we reciprocate. this should mean that they can't cheat us. Good.

We should be mindful that the Spartans should begin their invasion now. They ought to be killing us now (within the next 5 turns), while they still have a good chance. If they are not after us they should be after the Hive big time to gain mass. We should be ready for an invasion soon.

We should be mindful that Sparta may place another probe in the sole probe undefended Uni base before we can get our probes back there. It is likly that the probe will be of high morale.

We should try to seek out the Gaians. Don't let DA know we have not made contact (they might not know).

I agree with AndiD, we need more crawlers.




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I think we might be splitting our efforts on too many fronts, with crawlers, formers, probes, Cp's, etc. Now that we'll have Plasma armor prototyped, I think we really need two rounds of Plasma Garrisons. The Spartans are probably building an army, and not just to invade a couple cities and proceed from there-- the wise thing, with infiltration, knowing we aren't building defenses, would be to build an enormous army that more or less could wipe us out in one turn.

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We need defense more than we need formers. My thought is to rehome all our min crawlers to a size 1 base (and starve it to keep it that way - so HGP will keep the drones at bay). Then, build the best shells we can, rehoming to this base (which will be able to support with its min production (watch out for the >pop< though) and get our defense going. Our formers should be making some sensors too, I think, placing them under crawlers so they can't be arty sniped off.

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We popped a materials pod. Silly me, I picked a Plasma Probe, rover chassis, aka Gator Buggy. This was before I thought to design a Plasma Rover Supply. Oh, well, we still prototype Plasma armor this way.

I guess that´s what we call "opportunity costs"...

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We need defense more than we need formers. My thought is to rehome all our min crawlers to a size 1 base (and starve it to keep it that way - so HGP will keep the drones at bay). Then, build the best shells we can, rehoming to this base (which will be able to support with its min production (watch out for the >pop< though) and get our defense going. Our formers should be making some sensors too, I think, placing them under crawlers so they can't be arty sniped off.

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Erm, the downside of this is if the Spartans invade, they will take on the crawlers first, killing our entire army. Also, if the base you´re speaking of falls, all units will be rehomed to the next city, most probably exceeding its support ability...

Maybe we should stick to sevral plasma probes for the beginning, preferably rovers, if we can afford them.

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I guess that´s what we call "opportunity costs"...


no it isn't, had he popped the plasma rover supply we'd have still gotten the armor unfortunately.

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indeed the spartans have infiltration, so if they see that all our troops AND crawlers are homed in that city, that city will become a main target, Better to spread it off, as long we are defending, no drones will apear.

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Plasma probes are very expensive. The cheaper, the better, IMO, for right now.

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