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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:27
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Originally posted by Admiral
So, by my count, he used freedom 22 times. This is not including free, or other variants, which just add to the total. Also, I couldn't be arsed to add up Democracy and Liberty, but they were used rather a lot as well.
To Bush's credit, he said some very good, and accurate things, about foreign policy. The following passage I found particularly accurate:
"In the long term, the peace we seek will only be achieved by eliminating the conditions that feed radicalism and ideologies of murder. If whole regions of the world remain in despair and grow in hatred, they will be the recruiting grounds for terror, and that terror will stalk America and other free nations for decades."
However, it's Bush. His idea of addressing this problem is invasion, and heavy handedness. However, the fact that he mentions this at all means that at least his speechwriter has some idea of the problems of the world (if not their solution). I find this heartening. Maybe there is some hope for the Bush administration yet.
But I'm probably just feeling optimistic due to the effects of the SotU drinking game. Who knows. |
I think you will see a lot of "fence mending" from Bush in his second term. He realizes that having Europe "solidly" on our side can only redound to everyone's advantage.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:27
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Originally posted by Ming
From what I read (the BBall game was good), it was a typical boring and useless speech. The repubs are saying he was great, and the Dems are picking holes in it. What else is there really to say since there was really nothing new in the speech. Heck, the biggest discussion on news radio this morning was how annoying all the applause were  |
Ming, I have been watch SOTU speeches since the 60s. I can affirm that most of them are boring, insipid and uninspired. Reagan had a few that were good, especially the one where he talked about the hero who rescued the people from the frozen Patomac after the airplane crash at the Jefferson bridge. But Bush's speeches have been uniformly good, if not great. The reason I believe is that he is speaking at a time of great events, where the strong emotions of the people are involved. People who support what Bush is doing will be driven to tears. People who oppose Bush will be driven to anger or dismay.
The central point here is that these are strong speeches with great ideas. They are meant to galvanize not only the American people, but the people of the world. I can only imagine how anyone living under tryanny must have felt after hearing Bush's words that American stands with them, and that they will be free.
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:27
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Originally posted by Ned
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents. |
you are so full of **** sometimes it makes me blush.
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Originally posted by Dissident
don't try to convince me, I'm an isolationist. |
Same here, but I wouldn't use the label "isolationist." That's an insult used to trivialize our viewpoint. I just don't believe that the US has or should have any messianic world mission. W is 100% Wilsonian. Everyone can see how well Wilson's plans worked out...
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