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Reply from the DA
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ACDG3
Dear Director Mead,
Thank you very much for the technology, map and Peacekeepers commlink, which you have forwarded to us. We appreciate this last possibility of trade with you. We also confirm receiving from you the offer of possible research trade you indicated, which might lead to choppers. We will discuss it and respond to you within several RL days.
We presently do not posses and are not researching Synthetic Fossil Fuels (SFF).
Regarding Pact, as we stated recently, our current situation has not change significantly since we last talked about it. Entering the Pact with you will require appropriate diplomacy including other factions. We are presently discusing it within our faction. We cannot enter the Pact with you at this moment but we will keep up to date with the state of our efforts towards this goal.
IT Mart
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Mead
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Geo
I saw you asking questions regarding the invasion.
Please let me know if you want the full intell brief with screenshots.
I sent you a Pact preapproved.
If you were to accept and enter into the Pact we would be able to give you complete and timely intell to aid our mutual defense.
Mead
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Mead
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Latest exchange with Geo
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I would be willing to share the complete intel picture only if we are in Pact. There is a lot to share.
Atrocities aside, I am impressed over how the Spartans carried out the attack.
I think you should want to get the info. Not only is it interesting (if we were not the victim I would say entertaining perhaps), but based upon their capabilities and temperment, it also is a good indication of what you may be facing from them yourself in about 3 turns.
I heard that someone said that they called themselves the most evil faction on planet. I don't know if they did. One thing that I can say for sure is that they are ruthless.
Mead
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GeoModder wrote on 01-03-2005 15:53:
Hi Mead,
I received your PM and posted the proposal for discussion in our diplomatic thread.
Am I correct in assuming that you're willing to give us info regarding the raid on Morgan Industries without us entering a Pact?
I wondered what more info you could give us, for if you had discovered the Spartans' forces the turn before, you would have made their raid a whole lot more difficult... Also, Whoha's claim that they attacked with gatling rovers is seen in that light intriguing.
IT Geo
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Mead
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GeoModder wrote on 01-03-2005 16:38:
Mead, the Corporation really seem intend on dragging the Data Angels already in this conflict.
Do you think your faction is in that weak a position? What help do you think the Data Angels can offer, being sofar away from the Spartan homeland?
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Geo
The Spartans have created a streamroller. Because of this they will bring the conflict to you whether you want it.
We do not need or request that you to go to war with the Spartans. Please feel free to maintain peace (as long as you can) with them. We ask that you not to assist them. If their track record towards us is any indication, they will encrouch upon you and then attack.
The help we seek from you is:
A Pact so that we both get additional commerce income;
Mutual Tech trades and mutual rapid tech development plan up the tech tree;
Mutual Early warnings of Spartan and other faction military movements; and
An exchange of Strategic and Tactical advice on how to proceed in general.
Mead
PS (Really, Really, Really off the Record)
Although the Morgan is 'not quite dead yet' if we were to not survive, a number of us would hope that there would be at least one faction that we could go to that would be able to stand up to Sparta. Because of DA is the farthest from Sparta, it stands the best chance of living. But even with the distance, if DA does not accelerate its development now, even the its remoteness from Sparta will not save it.
PPS
I do not know your defense preparations, but it may be wise to establish a robust defense in key bases easily accessible by sea as soon as you can.
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Mead
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From Geo.
From the below I can see that he's saying that they have agreements with Sparta. They are probably being feed info from Sparta.
Mead
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RE: Re: off the record
They will encroach upon us for sure if we break contacts and agreements. You might be thinking we don't 'accelerate' our growth fast enough, but fact is that we simply do our best.
Can't comment yet on whether or not ex-Morgans will be welcome, it depends on what the moderator says, and the opinion of a majority within the Data Angels.
You guys still have 15+ bases upthere, isn't it then a bit premature talking about defeat? In two-three turns you can have a HQ again and be on the economic track again if you choose so.
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SOO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
May 2004
time: 06:26
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Can you please ask politely about the probe team on the foil?
And if they still don't realize the need for a pact the Hive will have D:AP in six years. Dunno whether we should mention it though.
Last edited by AndiD on 07-03-2005 at 01:27
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Mead
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Originally posted by AndiD
Can you please ask politely about the probe team on the foil?
And if they still don't realize the need for a pact the Hive will have D:AP in six years. Dunno whether we should mention it though. |
Reply from Geo
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Apologies for the inconvenience
Boardmembers of the Corporation,
We feel an apology is in order as one of our transports seems to be obstructing one of your transport vessels on it's present course.
We hope this will not profoundly block the arrival time on it's port of origin.
Since our transport is in your territorial waters, we feel as well an explanation of it's presence there is in order.
It is so that only last turn (2161) we got confirmation on who occupied the land it was sailing to at first due to our world map exchange. We promptly decided to change it's course and let it head to the University of Planet's territory in order to let our junior students onboard have a field practice in that area of Planet.
Again, our apologies for any inconvenience
Regards,
IT GeoModder
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Please offer, Preaccepted, a Pact to the DA
Below is what I sent to Geo:
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GeoModder wrote on 06-03-2005 13:25:
Boardmembers of the Corporation,
We feel an apology is in order as one of our transports seems to be obstructing one of your transport vessels on it's present course.
We hope this will not profoundly block the arrival time on it's port of origin.
Since our transport is in your territorial waters, we feel as well an explanation of it's presence there is in order.
It is so that only last turn (2161) we got confirmation on who occupied the land it was sailing to at first due to our world map exchange. We promptly decided to change it's course and let it head to the University of Planet's territory in order to let our junior students onboard have a field practice in that area of Planet.
Again, our apologies for any inconvenience
Regards,
IT GeoModder
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Be advised that there is a Spartan Missile Cruiser operating in the waters north of you. We do not know how far north of you it is. The last time we saw it it was [(6)-2-6, Commando, 30% damaged]. With the MCC it might still be able to move 8 squares. Note, the Spartans are running Funde and with the MCC and their morale bonus, all the ships they made since they got the MCC are at least commando morale. With the Command Nexus, funde, Spartan morale bonus, and monoliths, all thier land units appear to be Elite.
Please let me know if circumstances have changed allowing you to enter into a Pact. There is a substantial amount of infomation that we can provide to you if we were in a Pact. In particular, we may be able to provide you both detailed information about Spartan dispositions that may aid your defense, as well as detailed infomation that may aid you in your borrowing activities at the University libraries (some of the libraries have been know to have Uni and Spartan probes studying in the bookstacks or nearby).
Mead
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Remember, any Spartan ship you see will probably be at least Commando with a 2+ MCC movement bonus. Any Spartan land unit you see will be at least Commando and probably Elite with the 1+ movement bonus. |
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We have recently come into possession of the Spartan map.
It is scary.
In addition to thier own continent they have, with the exception of three cities, taken Uni.
They have taken the Borehole cluster, Unity wreckage, Manifold Nexus, and a phenomenal amount of territory. They are now just north of you. One of their large bases, Fort Superioity is a size 6 base north of you.
I hope to share the map with you in order to convince you of the dangerousness of the situation.
If you accept the Pact we will again give you a copy of our map in return for your map. Please note that our map has been sustantially updated since our last trade.
Mead
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I'll see if I can get screenshots of it made and sent over to you before you post your turn.
PPS
Do you have infiltration of Sparta yet? If so, you should be able to see what they are doing. |
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GeoModder wrote on 12-03-2005 16:01:
I posted it in the appropriate thread. 't Will be talked about (again), but no-one of the team seems online atm.
Our pact with Lal showed us already a lot more mapinfo, but if you think you can see something about the Spartans we can't with his mapinfo, a screenshot would be welcome.
May I ask if one of the Corporate ships popped a pod during your turn?
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You already know of the extent of Sparta's strength?
I propose went enter into a mutual three-way pact with DA, Gaia, and Morgan to last a specific amount of time (say 15 years, I'm sure there is a time period that we can all agree on). Perhaps, with the mutual Pact, we can all survive the Spartan onslaught.
Mead
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With a Pact we would be much more free to share the location and operations of our units. Which pod are you refering to? Where? |
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AndiD
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SOO of Morgan Industries, ACDG3
May 2004
time: 06:26
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Mead, please clean your PM inbox. 
Response from Geo:
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... in Mead's PM office.
I therefore sent a response to you.
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Mead wrote on 12-03-2005 22:17:
You already know of the extent of Sparta's strength? |
Appearantly still not strong enough to take Morgan bases without punishment. Our worldmap showed no change of owner in Corporate territory, and such things are shown when it happens even if we (Angels) don't receive a yearly update from whoever has an up-to-date map of Corporate territory.
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Mead wrote on 12-03-2005 22:17:
I propose went enter into a mutual three-way pact with DA, Gaia, and Morgan to last a specific amount of time (say 15 years, I'm sure there is a time period that we can all agree on). Perhaps, with the mutual Pact, we can all survive the Spartan onslaught.
Mead
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I'm sorry, we are still feeling the water about the necessity of a Pact with the Corporation. Again, this must be discussed within our ranks.
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Regarding your latest message.
I am sorry, but the Data Angels remain on their position at this stage. We're willing to trade, but not to Pact with the Corporation.
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Originally posted by jtsisyoda
From Geo:
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How about we say we are going to vote for Sparta unless we get some real Pact and cooperation from them.
Mead
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Mead
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Why are you waiting?
Geo
I am considering one of a few options.
One, is a three way pact with Gaia, DA, and Morgan.
We all share all our tech to leapfrog. We assist you and Gaia as much as we can. DA and Gaia assist Morgan and each other as much as possible. We all try to counter Sparta.
Two, is to abandon the game and let end turn be pushed repeatedly.
Three, is to surrender to Sparta.
Without a complete coordinated response towards Sparta's worldwide domination with a three way (DA, Gaia, Morgan) alliance I'm not sure we should continue.
Mead
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Mead
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Hello Geo,
Long time no speak.
Are you interested in a 3 way Pact with Gaia and Morgan?
We could all share all our tech and leap frog past Sparta.
Without the Pact none of us will survive.
We have no intell to pass onto you. As you know, Sparta with MCC and its many bases rules the waves.
Let me know if you are interested in a three way Pact.
Mead
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Because of RL and the low prosepcts of any of us actually winning this game my interest in the game has greatly diminished. Perhaps with the a 3 way Pact the interest on all the teams might be revived. |
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paramir
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With geo leaving beacuse of a "sickening" post, the spartans seem far enough from the angels for us to move in with a pact.
Am I the only person who sees it that way?
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Mead
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I'm intrigued.
What was the Spartan post that so upset you?
Can you pass it onto me?
If you like, we will not share it with any other faction.
If you don't even want me to share it with the rest of my faction let me know and I won't.
Sparta has been trying to do tech deals with us, although I think it is futile to continue to deal with them (unless perhaps the DA, Gaia, and Morgan were perma pacted for at least 25 years to counter Sparta) I was considering going ahead with the tech deals.
I am curious what they could have posted in their embassy that could so sour you on the game.
Please forward me a copy. Let me know if you don't want it shared with other factions or even the rest of my faction. If you don't want me to share it with the rest of my faction I won't, but I may let them know that your action was well founded.
Mead
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Although Sparta set up an embasy for us to use as well, I have not gone back there for weeks, or maybe even months. If they want to talk to me they can do it by PM. I don't trust their embassy. |
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paramir
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Geo's dosen't want to participate anymore, so you may want to forward it to another angel aswell
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PJayTycy
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I can't even visit them
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