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Jaguar is offline Jaguar
King
Montgomery County, MD
Apr 2000
time: 00:26
  Old Post 04-02-2005 16:30
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What's going on with Black and White 2? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

When's it coming out? And will it be good this time?

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Minion of the Dominion
Aug 2001
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I don't know but it looks good. Then again, so did the first.




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Prince
"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I look forward to being disappointed again...

Dis is offline Dis
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Feb 2000
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not me, because I refuse to buy it .

It was my own fault for buying it in the first place, I thought the gameplay would be different.

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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Sep 2001
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  Old Post 05-02-2005 00:33
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I'll watch with interest, but doubt I'll get it.

Jaguar is offline Jaguar
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Apr 2000
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  Old Post 05-02-2005 03:11
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Got spare money?

No release date yet? It's been in development a long time.


It seems like Molyneaux games lately are all overhyped and underdeveloped, even though they take a very long time to make.

Bkeela is offline Bkeela
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Brisbane, Australia
Oct 1999
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Just don't expect Creature AI equal to sentient life, and you won't be disappointed.

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 05-02-2005 06:34
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Just don't expect Creature AI equal to sentient life, and you won't be disappointed.



That was the least of the original's problems. The real reason it sucked is that it had no direction. Peter wanted to make a god sim, but couldn't figure out what to do so he turned it into a half-assed strategy game at the last minute. It ended up not really being a god sim and not really being a strategy game either - just some half-concieved game with no real direction that wasn't consistently thought out.

As far as B&W2 goes, they seemed to have atleast picked a direction (that of a strategy/war game) so there is some hope that they can redeem themselves.

Jaguar is offline Jaguar
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I agree with Ludd. And having so few maps and so few worlds didn't help. There wasn't really enough to do.

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Feb 2000
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I still have nightmares of looking for sheep

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Oct 1999
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  Old Post 05-02-2005 20:39
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I still have nightmares of looking for sheep


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Jul 2002
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Got spare money?

Mine involve those damn stones never quite sounding right...

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I still have nightmares of looking for sheep

I looked up their locations on the internet

ZargonX is offline ZargonX
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Space
Sep 2002
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  Old Post 06-02-2005 02:04
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Got spare money?

As long as they remember to include "fun" this time when it ships

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Oct 1999
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  Old Post 06-02-2005 06:55
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I had fun building up villages and watching my temple grow greater and greater. It was baby sitting the stupid creature that got on my nerves. In fact, when my creature was kidnapped on the second island, it was such a relief.

appleciders is offline appleciders
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I only played the first game once, but it certainly seemed to have potential. I did get the feeling it had little to no replay value, though.

Blake is offline Blake
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Oct 2000
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  Old Post 07-02-2005 05:43
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I actually quite enjoyed the first one, mainly building giant cities. Something that amused me immensly was founding a new village and placing in it exactly 1 young pregnant villager and watching as the village grows to a population of hundreds.

Creature? What Creature? Oh that lost soul that roams the beaches and ocassionally looks mournfully at me.

Some people got annoyed with the whining of villagers but the simple thing to do was ignore them, keep them hungry and cold and they worshiped you better (especially if you only feed the worshipers - chaining the pet to the food flag is good for this) - and, healing a villager dying of malnutrition is worth a LOT more belief and goodness points that healing a fat lazy spoilt villager. Hungry homeless villagers also have nothing better to do than charge up aritfacts for you all day and night, possibly in feverent hope that you will grace them with a food miracle or not give them flying lessons. Wonders that improved birth rate were excellent for this, and also the ones that reduce food consumption (because you do have to ensure they have atleast some food, and building more wonders beats building more farms). The only really nice thing I did was supply the villagers with all the wood they could use, usually by growing trees using rain or Norse Power wood miracles.

So on earth, God, by ignoring us, is just using good strategy

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It is nice to know I wasn't alone in enjoying Black & White.

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I actually quite enjoyed the first one, mainly building giant cities. Something that amused me immensly was founding a new village and placing in it exactly 1 young pregnant villager and watching as the village grows to a population of hundreds.

Creature? What Creature? Oh that lost soul that roams the beaches and ocassionally looks mournfully at me.

Some people got annoyed with the whining of villagers but the simple thing to do was ignore them, keep them hungry and cold and they worshiped you better (especially if you only feed the worshipers - chaining the pet to the food flag is good for this) - and, healing a villager dying of malnutrition is worth a LOT more belief and goodness points that healing a fat lazy spoilt villager. Hungry homeless villagers also have nothing better to do than charge up aritfacts for you all day and night, possibly in feverent hope that you will grace them with a food miracle or not give them flying lessons. Wonders that improved birth rate were excellent for this, and also the ones that reduce food consumption (because you do have to ensure they have atleast some food, and building more wonders beats building more farms). The only really nice thing I did was supply the villagers with all the wood they could use, usually by growing trees using rain or Norse Power wood miracles.

So on earth, God, by ignoring us, is just using good strategy

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Lol. When's B&W2 supposed to be out?

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  Old Post 10-02-2005 00:22
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No release date yet? It's been in development a long time.

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Dec 2001
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Ahh, the original B&W - the game which convinced me to stop reading all gaming magazines with their "fair and balanced" game reviews. Most Finnish ones gave it scores varying 94-98 / 100.

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I saw a tentative release date for B&W II- June, '05. I'll post the link if I can find it again.

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