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JOHN EDWARDS 3 18.75%
MITT ROMNEY 0 0%
EVAN BAYH 1 6.25%
HILLARY CLINTON 4 25.00%
JOHN MC CAIN 3 18.75%
JOHN KERRY 0 0%
TOM VILSACK 0 0%
BILL RICHARDSON 0 0%
JOE BIDEN 0 0%
GEORGE ALLEN 0 0%
BILL FRIST 0 0%
CHUCK HAGEL 2 12.50%
SAM BROWNBACK 0 0%
GEORGE PATAKI 0 0%
RUDOLPH GIULIANI 3 18.75%
JEB BUSH 0 0%
Total: 16 voters 100%
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MANCHESTER, N.H. - In the course of three short months, the political system has come full circle: a presidential campaign, an inauguration, a State of the Union address and now this — another presidential race.

A dozen or ambitious Republicans and Democrats already are warming up for 2008.


Former Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards (news - web sites) is taking on poverty and showing off a new stump speech. Republican Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts has donated more than $250,000 to GOP causes, collecting political IOUs while planning visits to early voting states. Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana is hiring veteran operatives and talking up donors.


No list could be made without mentioning Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), D-N.Y., and Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz. — two political Goliaths who cannot make a move without being accused of presidential posturing.


"Many, many people on both sides will spend the next couple of years putting themselves in a position so they can decide whether or not to run," Bayh adviser Anita Dunn said.


"If two years from now, you're just getting started on building a political team, two things will happen: All the top talent will be gone and, more importantly, you'll start out with a team that's not cohesive," she said.


Wasting no time, Bayh has begun to put together a presidential-style political team. It includes Paul Maslin, pollster for Howard Dean (news - web sites)'s failed presidential bid, and Steve Bouchard, a leading organizer in New Hampshire, traditionally the site of the first presidential primary.


Edwards was in the Granite State on Saturday to speak about his fledgling Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity. The North Carolina-based program will give Edwards a public platform and a cause, two things he will need to remain politically viable after leaving the Senate last month.


While saying he has not decided whether to seek the presidency, Edwards sounded like a man who is putting a lot of thought into what makes voters tick.


"People are looking for strength and conviction, a core set of beliefs that we stand behind," he said in an interview previewing his speech to Democratic activists.


"I just believe that what the American people need in their leaders is to know where they stand. They may not know the nuance of the policy, but they know where that person wants to take the country," Edwards said.


Asked if President Bush (news - web sites) passed that gut-check test with voters, Edwards paused before answering. "I don't think that's true, but there are a lot of people who do," he said.


Edwards did not want to say why his former running mate, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts, is faulted for lacking conviction and vision. "I think that's a complicated question," Edwards said. "Others can respond to that. I actually think John Kerry was a very good man and would have made a very good president."


Kerry may still want to be president, a prospect that could complicate Edwards' aspirations.


After falling 19 electoral votes short of the White House, Kerry quickly regrouped to make a trip to Iraq (news - web sites), ship two mass e-mails to 2004 supporters and deliver a health care speech that countered Bush on the issue.


Advisers say Kerry does not need to campaign as early as other potential candidates because of his high profile and big bank account. They reject criticism from fellow Democrats who accuse Kerry of running a poor campaign that froze out some of the party's top talent.


Many Democrats predict that Clinton will be the early front-runner for the nomination should she decide to run. The former first lady has begun to talk more frequently in public about her faith and, like Edwards, casts the fight against poverty as a moral cause.

Her recent speech on abortion broke no new ground, but nonetheless was dissected for signs that Clinton is moderating her views.

Behind the scenes, her advisers are gearing up for her 2006 re-election campaign, which they hope is a trial run for a presidential race.

The list of Democratic hopefuls goes on.

Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack's advisers plan to meet this month to begin charting his course to a potential bid.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson has told party leaders he will run.

Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware skipped last year's race, but recently told a well-wisher, "I think next time I will" run.

As for the Republicans, McCain is getting encouragement from party leaders who opposed his 2000 campaign against Bush. One of his political advisers, John Weaver, cornered GOP activists at last month's Republican National Committee (news - web sites) meeting.

Sen. George Allen (news, bio, voting record) of Virginia shook up his staff to get ready for a potential run. Indeed, the Senate is filled with Republicans who might be president, including Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Sam Brownback of Kansas.

New York Gov. George Pataki and former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (news - web sites) want a crack at the big prize. Supporters of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) hope to amend the Constitution in time for the Austrian native to seek the presidency.

And then there's Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who stood out by bowing out. "I'm not going to run for president in 2008," he said in October, just weeks before the 2008 campaign began.

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I've liked what I have heard of Hagel so far.

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You missed Mark Warner, governor of Virginia.

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Too much campaigning, too little getting things done.

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I'd vote for John McCain if he ran but I think he'd be to old to run. McCain is one of the only men who haven't totally sold out to the special interests. He still has my respect for going after campaign finance reform even if Trent Lott and the other Republicans blocked most of it.

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Democrats:
Prez: John Edwards
VP: Bill Richardson

Republicans:
Prez: Bill Frist
VP: Mitt Romney

Sen. Clinton will never get the nomination, she is too easy for the republicans to bash. McCain is getting too old.

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Bill Frist has Rove on board.

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Jeb Bush will likely be the Republican candidate if he wants to run. He has a name which gets the fundies worked up plus he can tap his father's and his brother's fund raising machine.

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Change the constitution - let the Euros take over!

Arnold Schwartzenegger vs Madelaine Albright

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quote:
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Democrats:
Prez: John Edwards
VP: Bill Richardson

Republicans:
Prez: Bill Frist
VP: Mitt Romney

Sen. Clinton will never get the nomination, she is too easy for the republicans to bash. McCain is getting too old.

Please, I beg of you, make John Edwards your presidential nominee.

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Liberals, perverts, DNC
Corruption, special interests, GOP

Drafting Joseph Kerrey to serve his country again

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I'd vote for John McCain if he ran but I think he'd be to old to run.

Huh? How old was Reagan 20 years ago? And you have to remember, back then people even used to live shorter lives.

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You missed Mark Warner, governor of Virginia.



is his name in the article.. humm
i could have missed one im sure.

i imagine there will be other contenders
up at bat before the next election year.
if you have any guesses at who those might
be .. post them...


as for changing the law to let arnold run..
i am very very doubtful on that ever happening.

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McCain would be 72 in 2008. I'm not sure how old Reagan was.

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McCain would be 72 in 2008. I'm not sure how old Reagan was.


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I don't know who'll win the Democratic nomination, but I'd bet that Frist'll win the Republican nomination. Besides '64 and '80, the establishment candidate has always won the Republican nomination.

I'd like to see Russ Feingold win the Democratic nomination, and John McCain win the Republican nomination (even if he'd be a lot harder to beat than Frist).

Feingold/Warner wouldn't be a bad ticket (though, I'd prefer it if Warner ran for Allen's Senate seat, instead of having Presidential ambitions).

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Frankly, if the Republicans are going to win again, I'd campaign to have the restriction removed so that Arnie could run for Prez.

He's an idiot, but at least he isn't a bigot.

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quote:
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Jeb Bush will likely be the Republican candidate if he wants to run. He has a name which gets the fundies worked up plus he can tap his father's and his brother's fund raising machine.


NWIH are Americans going to elect a third Bush. The fundies in and of themselves aren't a majority.

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I want Warner to run with the Democrats. Virginia

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He's an idiot, but at least he isn't a bigot.


That wouldn't be because he happens to agree with you on many issues, eh?

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I'd vote for John McCain if he ran but I think he'd be to old to run. McCain is one of the only men who haven't totally sold out to the special interests.


Oddly enough, I'm voting John McCain, for he has sold out to my special interests.

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quote:
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Jeb Bush will likely be the Republican candidate if he wants to run. He has a name which gets the fundies worked up plus he can tap his father's and his brother's fund raising machine.


Jeb's not a Fundy, though. Plus he married a brown person.

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Yo, JohnT, I need a phone book. Can you hook me up?

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Jeb's not a Fundy, though. Plus he married a brown person.


But Americans aren't going to stand for a third Bush. The monarchy alarms'll go off

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Hagel is the man! Unfortunetly he has a reputation as a maverick like McCain and so won't be nominated.

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But Americans aren't going to stand for a third Bush. The monarchy alarms'll go off


They may, he's just gonna wait, I think. Supposedly, Jeb was the one the family was grooming to become the next Prez, when the Texas conservatives decided to run Jr. instead. I'm sure Jeb still wants it.

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I don't think he could run even after a term or two.

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Yeah, but Jeb has a Hispanic wife... maybe he'll let all dem Mexicans take er jobs!

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That wouldn't be because he happens to agree with you on many issues, eh?


Not at all. He also disagrees with me on many things. A bigot like Santorum basically hates people. There are others who do not care for homosexuality, yet do not hate homosexuals or treat them as less than human.

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Phil Bresden (popular dem gov of Tennesse) could have a shot.

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Bredesen is popular? In Tennessee?

Naw, he's not. And if you don't win TN, you don't win the election (just ask Al Gore).

 
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