07-02-2005 19:41									#1
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You are unemployed at the moment and haven't been able to find other jobs so you're almost out of money

(The following stories are just examples. It could have been anything)

Let's say the year is 2004 and you hate G. W. Bush, but you're offered a job in his election campaign (let's just imagine this is what you do for living), would you take it? You know you can't just do a crappy job, because then they'll just fire you. You also know you wont get secret information that can be used against Bush. This means that the only thing your job does is to help Bush, you wont gain anything from it (except for a paycheck of course)

Or maybe you're offered a job as a bartender at some SM club, but you hate SM and believes it should be banned. The same thing here goes for the above: The only thing you gain from this work is your paycheck


As mentioned above, this could be anything you're against... but would you take a job working for you "enemy"?

	07-02-2005 19:49									#2
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Life is short, why do something you hate?

	07-02-2005 19:55									#3
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Because he really needs the money? Most hookers don't really like their job either, you know.

	07-02-2005 20:03									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Life is short, why do something you hate?

As alva said: You're in need of cash

Also note that you like the kind of job you're offered, it's just that you don't like who you're helping with it

Kinda like that some people have decided not to buy games where there is an EA logo is on. The game might be great, but they would hate to support EA

	07-02-2005 20:09									#5
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Do the job while looking for something different?

	07-02-2005 20:17									#6
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That could be an option. But what if you have worked at that specific company for some time without finding a better job?


It's not like I'm in that situation. Ok, I don't have a job, but being unemployed gives me about the same money as when I was in school, so I'm used to not having much cash... And there's not many companies where I live who I hate

	07-02-2005 20:25									#7
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No, I wouldn't work for Bush's campaign.

	07-02-2005 20:28									#8
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Why not? Republicans pay well.

	07-02-2005 20:29									#9
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They are pretty much against everything I stand for. It'd be terrible for my health. Every day I'd come home feeling incredibly angry and filthy and used. Like a whore.

	07-02-2005 20:31									#10
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Imagine how your sheep feel.

	07-02-2005 20:38									#11
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Fulfilled and happy.

	07-02-2005 21:22									#12
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Depends on the "enemy."

Is the person an enemy because I loathe what he stands for? Is the person an enemy because he beat me up when I was a kid? Is the person an enemy because he wronged a friend of mine?

	07-02-2005 21:33									#13
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I would take the job- just to sabotage the enemy- I would pass along information to the other campaign like crazy, and if caught and I lost my job, I would go on the talk circuit and make some money that way, then try to get a book deal about the whole thing.

	07-02-2005 21:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I would take the job- just to sabotage the enemy- I would pass along information to the other campaign like crazy

As I said in the first post: This is (for some weird reason) not possible

	07-02-2005 21:42									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio As I said in the first post: This is (for some weird reason) not possible

Then your hypothetical scenario is stupid

	07-02-2005 21:43									#16
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Sorry , but I do not accept fake hypotheticals

	07-02-2005 21:45									#17
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Not really, since it wasn't about if you'd work to help Bush or not, I just picked Bush as the enemy in the first story... I believe a situation could happen where working for the "enemy" would only help the enemy...

	07-02-2005 21:46									#18
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My boss' boss a liberal. He is on the school board that allowed that teacher in cupertino not to teach the decleration of independence because it has a reference to god in it.

I respect people for their success in what they do, and learn from them in order to also be successful in what I do. I don't respect people for their opinions or political slant.

Yes, I would take the job and I would do the best I could do.

	07-02-2005 21:46									#19
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Maybe you'll change your opinion of the loathed after working with it for a while.

	07-02-2005 21:51									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Not really, since it wasn't about if you'd work to help Bush or not, I just picked Bush as the enemy in the first story... I believe a situation could happen where working for the "enemy" would only help the enemy...

Like the other scenario where you're working at some SM club which you hate, but working there would probably not help you getting SM banned or something like that...

	07-02-2005 22:32									#21
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I would take the job- just to sabotage the enemy- I would pass along information to the other campaign like crazy, and if caught and I lost my job, I would go on the talk circuit and make some money that way, then try to get a book deal about the whole thing.

See I couldn't do that . . . If I am going to take someone's money to work for them I am going to give an honest effort. If I cannot do that, I probably wouldn't take the job.

	07-02-2005 22:33									#22
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I always work for my enemy.

Boss = enemy

	07-02-2005 23:02									#23
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Why not? Undermine the organization from within, and get them to pay your for it.

	07-02-2005 23:31									#24
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I would take the job, only because i have a family to support. And a quick question for those who stated to ruin the employer cant you get in legal trouble of some sort if you did things like this? I remember asher saying something like if the company he works for didnt allow gays to work there he flipp them off and take their secrets to the competitor, Isnt that illegal?

	07-02-2005 23:34									#25
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Yes.

	07-02-2005 23:39									#26
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Depends on the enemy. I wouldnt work for a political enemy (besides, i'd be ejected from the party if i did) but apart from that I suppose it'd be a matter of how bad i thought the organisation was and the exact job I was going to do for them.

	07-02-2005 23:52									#27
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I never let politics affect my personal life. yes I take it.

	08-02-2005 00:04									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I never let politics affect my personal life. yes I take it.

What's the point of having any beliefs if you don't let them influence what you do?

	08-02-2005 00:10									#29
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To me this hypothethical asks if i would starve to death rather then work for someone i dont agree with. I would because I know that when i finish that job at the end of the day I still have my beliefs. I like to think that i would put my beliefs and things aside for those who are depending on me i.e my spouse and kids. I of course would be looking for another job during this time

	08-02-2005 00:27									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Zulu Elephant What's the point of having any beliefs if you don't let them influence what you do?

subcounciously they probably influence who I am.

I'm just not one of these liberals who is going to move to Canada (not that I could) because Bush is president. Life goes on.