09-02-2005 05:55									#1
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The Maoist take on SMAC

	09-02-2005 06:10									#2
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Well I thought, all things considered, it wasn't too bad a take on the game.

	09-02-2005 06:11									#3
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Someone obviously needs to send them a copy of SMAX

	09-02-2005 14:44									#4
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Someone obviously needs to send them a copy of SMAX

And to teach them about the various victory conditions as well. It cracks me up that they take a game which has numerous ways to win (economic, diplomatic, spiritual) and ignore all those to win a conquest victory and then complain that the game is a war game whereby one can only conquer (by genocide) or perish. No wonder commies have such bad opinions of everyone else, they assume everyone else is like them.

	09-02-2005 22:57									#5
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Some one is reading WAAAAY too much into a video game. This guy is suggesting that the police station in SIM City 3K is capitalist propaganda to make police seem a desirable force in a city......

Umm.....dude......it's just a game

	09-02-2005 23:40									#6
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hmm, but seriously thinking most games are won by war and diplomatical/economical victories almost does not exist.
Diplomatical because someone always might reject it and it will be conquest then anyway.
Economical, because you usually need BIG army to hold those 20 turns..

	09-02-2005 23:59									#7
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Transcendence is often easier than conquering every last city. Diplomacy works if the other factions are inclined to accept the result of the vote (as is the case in SP).

	10-02-2005 00:03									#8
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Yeah, but not in MP.
MP is more important IMO

	10-02-2005 00:18									#9
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quote: Originally posted by livid imp Some one is reading WAAAAY too much into a video game. This guy is suggesting that the police station in SIM City 3K is capitalist propaganda to make police seem a desirable force in a city...... Umm.....dude......it's just a game

uhh police are a desirable force.

when our population allows people to carry guns, I'm happy to have police around to enforce the laws that these psychos don't use those guns.

	10-02-2005 00:20									#10
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transcendence is the way I always win. It's too much of a pain conquering everything.

Economic? Has anyone ever won that way? It's impossible! I can never do it. soon as I get around 60000 energy, I have an energy market crash. I can never accumulate a high amount of energy.

	10-02-2005 01:30									#11
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I think what the reviewer is trying to say is the game, or the factions, have a predisposition for war as opposed to any other way of winning. Lets be honest it's true. Even the so called peaceful factions want to go to war if they get big enough. It's a sad commentary on the human race.

Economic Victory: I've done that quite a few times. I have had the market crash on me more than once though.

	10-02-2005 03:28									#12
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Well, if you've tried to read more of their reviews (and its homepage) you'll see that ALL the analysis "insert" propaganda in them. A lot of propaganda. Really, these guys are waaay outta this world (and by this comment I don't want to critizise Maoism: its a perfectly respectable ideology as any other. Its just a matter of viewpoint.
(And PLEASE don't start talking about politics here like in some other threads, which are still on the run -for example, the one that started talking about Social Eng. and now is talking about D-Day and Italy...)

	10-02-2005 07:30									#13
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If I had a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book, I'd know precisely where to shove it.

	10-02-2005 13:09									#14
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Do you feel the drum of OT Talk approaching?!?


(nono, it's not me this time.. )

	10-02-2005 14:38									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Lord_Icewind Well, if you've tried to read more of their reviews (and its homepage) you'll see that ALL the analysis "insert" propaganda in them. A lot of propaganda. Really, these guys are waaay outta this world (and by this comment I don't want to critizise Maoism: its a perfectly respectable ideology as any other. Its just a matter of viewpoint. (And PLEASE don't start talking about politics here like in some other threads, which are still on the run -for example, the one that started talking about Social Eng. and now is talking about D-Day and Italy...)

I'm glad you brought up D-Day and Italy, as I think that they are particularly pertinent to this discussion because.....oh never mind.

	10-02-2005 15:11									#16
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quote: I'm glad you brought up D-Day and Italy, as I think that they are particularly pertinent to this discussion because.....oh never mind.

	10-02-2005 19:52									#17
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quote: Originally posted by IdaGno If I had a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book, I'd know precisely where to shove it.

Mine's on the bookcase, next to the Koran and the Authorized Version of the Bible.



In the fiction area.

	10-02-2005 21:15									#18
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quote: In the fiction area.

That's the right place for it!

	28-02-2005 09:05									#19
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Close by Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations"?

	28-02-2005 18:24									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Zoetrope Close by Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations"?

Indeed (albeit 'The Wealth of Nations' has the virtue of being well-written, whereas 'The Little Red Book' doesn't, at least in translation) .