09-02-2005 21:13									#1
	Goody Hut poping Got spare money?

1. You can't get barbs if you have no military units. (But we start with them)

2. You can't get a free settler if you are building a settler or have it posession a settler.

3. You also can't get a free settler if you have an above average number of cities. (even slightly)

So if we want any chance of a settler at all, we need to found all three cities first (which would also virtually eliminate the risk of barbs) but also be confident that every one else has founded cities with their three settlers as well.

4. The tech chosen is always the cheapest one that is both lacking and also not being researched. (Currently, if we reserach Pottery, we get Warrior Code, and if we resarch anything else we get Pottery.)

Expanionistic civs could count on getting a tech from a goody hut prior to reseraching the first tech with this kind of start up. Non-expanionistic civs can not.

With this in mind I propose delaying the poping of Goody Huts until turn 5.

	10-02-2005 04:44									#2
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Are you suggesting we delay settling the city, which will in effect pop the hut. I say we pop it with th city. And we start researching pottery and warrior code would be very nice this early on.

	10-02-2005 04:48									#3
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Is it really worth poping huts with anything, but city-founding? We play emperor and not expansionist. Of course we will need to do it as we have enough military to deal with barbarians. It will be nice to pop huts near rivals

	10-02-2005 19:47									#4
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Plan Y doesn't have any of the 3 starting cities adejent to the hut I see and in fact it's not even on first expansion. It's in the 4th planed site.

	10-02-2005 20:36									#5
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Are we talking about the same plan Y here? There is a settler that went east to found a city on Turn 3 which is adjacent to the hut.

	10-02-2005 20:43									#6
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The screen shot for Y shows 4 city sites, with settlers heading north, west, and south and a warrior east.

quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Are we talking about the same plan Y here? There is a settler that went east to found a city on Turn 3 which is adjacent to the hut.

	10-02-2005 22:20									#7
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No. The settlers went: NW, E, and S.

	10-02-2005 22:26									#8
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could we get a save anyhow? (the one where all moves done)

Maybe the save should posted as soon as it was sent out, so we can see what is going on.

	10-02-2005 22:32									#9
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PBEM game, no save file can be created that can be reopened by us. [It would open to the next player]

What we need are the post move screen shots, with commentary when some units are hiding others.

quote: Originally posted by pvzh could we get a save anyhow? (the one where all moves done) Maybe the save should posted as soon as it was sent out, so we can see what is going on.

	10-02-2005 23:49									#10
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So, who gets the saves? The rest of us just look at screen shots and posts?

	11-02-2005 00:22									#11
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn PBEM game, no save file can be created that can be reopened by us. [It would open to the next player] What we need are the post more screen shots, with commentary when some units are hiding others.

Erm, isnīt it possible to save a game prior to hitting end turn?

	11-02-2005 00:23									#12
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We can all look at beginning of the turn save. We just can't do anything that would change things. That would obviously include scouting.

quote: Originally posted by skrobism So, who gets the saves? The rest of us just look at screen shots and posts?

	11-02-2005 00:24									#13
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Not in any Civ III PBEM Game.

You can do that in hotseat, but also in Civ III hotseat and PBEM are not fully compitable.

For instance, loading a Civ III Hot Seat Game in PBEM mode would cause that player to have an extra production phase.

quote: Originally posted by Micha Erm, isnīt it possible to save a game prior to hitting end turn?

	11-02-2005 01:21									#14
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Thank you. Just asking. Never PBEM'd before. Good info.

	11-02-2005 03:24									#15
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Thatīs strange, because Alpha Centauri has no problem with that...

	11-02-2005 05:25									#16
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn What we need are the post move screen shots, with commentary when some units are hiding others.

As in this commentary in the turn thread:

"So - here is the final move. The second settler moved south to the hill and the third east with the warrior. The two workers are irrigating the ivory tile.

We are going with Plan y as so eloquently put forth by BFM."

And which was accompanied by a screen shot. What am I missing here jon?

	11-02-2005 19:58									#17
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Content seems fine athough it was lost in all the other sample screen shots.

Would be a good idea to place all content in that final screen shot in bold so it stands out more.

quote: Originally posted by Beta As in this commentary in the turn thread: "So - here is the final move. The second settler moved south to the hill and the third east with the warrior. The two workers are irrigating the ivory tile. We are going with Plan y as so eloquently put forth by BFM." And which was accompanied by a screen shot. What am I missing here jon?

	11-02-2005 19:59									#18
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MP modes in Civ III were not based on SMAC MP modes at all.

quote: Originally posted by Micha Thatīs strange, because Alpha Centauri has no problem with that...

	12-02-2005 07:00									#19
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Content seems fine athough it was lost in all the other sample screen shots. Would be a good idea to place all content in that final screen shot in bold so it stands out more.

Agreed.