10-02-2005 10:19									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski ... the teacher needs to be taken out of the profession and the student well lets just say has the rights for a new made for tv movie.

Yeah! Maybe they can show it on ... The Lifetime Channel.

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	10-02-2005 10:29									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I mean, if you ask grown women if they would have hit it with their teachers back then, they would almost all say, "ewwww gross!!!!" You hang out with some WIEEEERD women. There are plenty of adult women who talk about their hot teachers when they were younger. Frankly, a lot of the women in relationships like the one seen here have the same desires and show them, at least outwardly.

Yeah but they will talk about how they are cute or whatever, not that they have memories of wanting to **** them. That comes later. Most girls just aren't sexually developed at that age.

Of course there are always exceptions. Just like the boys that want to save it for marriage.

A 27 year old woman is coming into her prime, and by age 30 she is definitley wanting to hit it, ALOT.

	10-02-2005 10:30									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Yeah! Maybe they can show it on ... The Lifetime Channel. Gatekeeper

	10-02-2005 10:36									#154
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No, Jewish law forbids ****ing women until you're married.

	10-02-2005 10:42									#156
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quote: Yeah but they will talk about how they are cute or whatever, not that they have memories of wanting to **** them. That comes later. Most girls just aren't sexually developed at that age.

Girls sexually develop far earlier than boys. And I'll say again, you hang out with wierd woman. It isn't that they are cute, it's that they wanted to share a bed with them.

	10-02-2005 10:48									#157
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Sorry dude but that's common knowledge, I thought you knew that.

Men develop their sex drivers as teenagers and then it gets lower as they get older. Women get into their prime around age 30 as their biological clock goes off.

	10-02-2005 10:49									#158
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"My 14 yo, as my ex husband jsut told me, found out recently about nasty magazines that my ex keeps, and might have just started to learn about self stimulation"

poor, innocent, naive mothers....they say 'mother knows' but every son has grown up knowing precisely how much mum needs to 'discover' and how much mum needs to know to preserve her frail sanity.

My mum is much much better off not knowing what her little angel was up to at those ages 11-14......

	10-02-2005 10:51									#159
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You had sex at 11?

	10-02-2005 11:07									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Sorry dude but that's common knowledge, I thought you knew that. Men develop their sex drivers as teenagers and then it gets lower as they get older. Women get into their prime around age 30 as their biological clock goes off.

And it's scientific knowledge that women hit puberty first and are more sexually developed in early teens than boys are. Women also have hormonal urges during puberty. Though chivalry has shielded our eyes from this.

	10-02-2005 11:08									#161
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?? did I say that here? I thought this was about the magazines?

Also:

I think it's telling to note the Scandinavian responses here. Without any Celtic or Latin influences, the Scandinavian genepool is sexually retarded, often lagging far behind other more sexually advanced groups. A Swedish or Finnish 16 = 13 in a more hotblooded, normal ethnicity. We've already noted the feminity of Swedish men in other threads here.

About the Jewish Law thing, I've had a few Jewish friends assure me that there is a kind of culturally accepted 'sowing wild oats' period in Jewish culture.

	10-02-2005 11:41									#162
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And it's scientific knowledge that women hit puberty first and are more sexually developed in early teens than boys are. Women also have hormonal urges during puberty. Though chivalry has shielded our eyes from this.

Yes, I agree they are more developed physically but their urge to hit it is not even close the runaway freight train that is a teenage boy.

And yes they have hormonal urges but again these aren't even in the same league.

	10-02-2005 11:52									#163
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quote: their urge to hit it is not even close the runaway freight train that is a teenage boy.

But they still have great urges. And I'd disagree that they are in the same league. Hell, it wasn't that long ago that we disputed that the female orgasm existed. Our attitudes towards women have clouded our views.

	10-02-2005 11:55									#164
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I thought you had gotten rid of all that womyn crap!!!!!!


Attitudes don't have much to do with it as much as biology does.

	10-02-2005 11:58									#165
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No, it's attitudes. We are finding out more and more that female teenagers have greater sex drives than we realized. The problem is chivalrous notions that women weren't that into sex. Those notions are dying, thankfully. But misperceptions still exist.

	10-02-2005 12:04									#166
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Nah, the emotional side is a big factor but doesn't paint the whole picture. Women are generally more comfortable with themselves after 30 and know what works to stimulate them better.

But the physical side is the biggest influence and that is more hormonal than anything.

	10-02-2005 12:21									#167
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quote: You hang out with some WIEEEERD women. There are plenty of adult women who talk about their hot teachers when they were younger. Frankly, a lot of the women in relationships like the one seen here have the same desires and show them, at least outwardly.

Eh, even the Catholics I know aren't that uptight.

	10-02-2005 12:27									#168
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Actually, I agree with Imran.

Most of the women I know hide this side from us as much as possible.

	10-02-2005 12:30									#169
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Yeah, he makes a good point.

I just think biology is still the biggest factor regardless of attitudes or culture.

Plus Ben Kenobi you know Catholic school girls are the biggest freaks of them all!!!

	10-02-2005 13:14									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker ?? did I say that here? I thought this was about the magazines? Also: I think it's telling to note the Scandinavian responses here. Without any Celtic or Latin influences, the Scandinavian genepool is sexually retarded, often lagging far behind other more sexually advanced groups. A Swedish or Finnish 16 = 13 in a more hotblooded, normal ethnicity. We've already noted the feminity of Swedish men in other threads here. About the Jewish Law thing, I've had a few Jewish friends assure me that there is a kind of culturally accepted 'sowing wild oats' period in Jewish culture.

You have no clue.

Swedish erotica

The only Nordic participant in this thread was Pekka, and he was on the same side as Mrs Tuberski.

LC and I made a short comment each, but our posts give no support for your claims.

	10-02-2005 13:17									#171
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Yes Seeker stop being such a bastard.

	10-02-2005 13:20									#172
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2 for 2: I even got JohnT to use the word 'proto-orgasmic' today

	10-02-2005 13:48									#173
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quote: Plus Ben Kenobi you know Catholic school girls are the biggest freaks of them all!!!

I don't know anything about the schoolgirls other than that the people they grow into are an interesting lot.

	10-02-2005 15:14									#174
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Also being a female i was wondering what this woman could want in that child, most of my sons friends, male and female just annoy the hell out of me.

I know what you mean. I sometimes find teenage girls physically attractive (not the 13 year olds, but sometimes 16+) but their personalities drive me nuts. It can be ok when I'm being the adult, but to deal with them as peers? No thanks.

	10-02-2005 15:50									#175
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Well, while as a 13 boy, I certainly would have persued such a relationship with as hot a teacher as this, I certainly wouldn't have cooperated with police. After all, they'd be stoppin' me from gettin' more. However, I won't say it wouldn't have played havoc with me emotionally. I remember how stupid I acted about the woman I lost my virginity too, and I was a minor and she was an adult (17 and 23). It messed me up for about a year. At 13, I'd be far less able to handle the emotional repercutions. Remember, kids are stupid. They want things that are bad for them.

I agree with you. I first had intercourse at 13 years of age, and had it fairly regularly after that. There were no real relationships, just sex with girls my age who were sexually abused and now active prematurely. It messed me up. I had little desire to play hand holding games with my more normal peers, it seemed so mundane. As a consequence I ended up missing out on my normal developmental sequence which had longer term consequences. I too had a college girlfriend when I was in high school, and it was not a healthy relationship (I was completely smitten and did whatever she said). I ended up perpetually alone, depressed and with numerous sexual partners throughout my late teens and early twenties after this relationship ended.

In my early to mid-twenties I started dating younger girls in an effort to start over. It was embarrassing and difficult (learning the lesson after it is supposed to be learned is hard), but it eventually worked out. I wasn't able to have a serious, stable and healthy relationship until I was well into my thirties. It's not all harmless, fun and games. There are real consequences that are not apparent to those who have had relatively healthy "boring" sexual histories.

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Wasn't there a study some time ago (or should I blame my memory again?) where they asked men and women who was de-virginized before 16-18 if they regret it. Most men were fine about it, while 2/3 of the women would have avoided it if they knew what they know now...




If that is true then there's certainly a difference between girls and boys. A 13 year old girl having sex with a 27 year old guy would probably give the girl problems sooner or later, while a 13 year old boy having sex with a 27 year old woman would probably just make it better for him

	10-02-2005 23:31									#177
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If that is true then there's certainly a difference between girls and boys. A 13 year old girl having sex with a 27 year old guy would probably give the girl problems sooner or later, while a 13 year old boy having sex with a 27 year old woman would probably just make it better for him [/QUOTE]

I dont think this true at all Yhe boy goes strait to the main course he has no idea of romance and the small stuff.. It was stated here earlier. He didnt want to waste time holding hands and the likes there of. Went straight to the main course. I believe the boys miss out on a lot of intimacy if the go strait tosex.

	10-02-2005 23:40									#178
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Yeah, sex kinda ruins the excitement for the little things.

	11-02-2005 00:36									#179
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quote: Sikander I ended up perpetually alone, depressed and with numerous sexual partners throughout my late teens and early twenties after this relationship ended.

"Alone" and "with numerous sexual partners" sounds a bit contradictive ...

	11-02-2005 00:56									#180
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I a know a girl who almost married one of her highschool teachers (who was in his 40's). They didn't get engaged untill after she graduated.