10-02-2005 13:37									#31
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Can we buy beer?

	10-02-2005 13:38									#32
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We'll pay one of the older kids to get it for us.

	10-02-2005 13:41									#33
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Kewl!

	10-02-2005 13:42									#34
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You're absolutely right BD...I AM completely serious!

This is just the first step in my outline of a series of social issues affecting todays spineless simpering youth that could benefit from a good, sensible policy of Blood and Iron.

The true superman is forged in the fire of his own will, without nanny state 'helpers' or 'do-gooders!

We are destroying our western civilization by creating a race of inoffensive noncombatants.

	10-02-2005 13:43									#35
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Oh dear.

	10-02-2005 13:44									#36
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What is your position on spilling out our vitality through mastrubation?

	10-02-2005 13:45									#37
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Purity of Essence

	10-02-2005 13:46									#38
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quote: 3. She is a very pleasant, friendly child who is well-mannered with other kids and adults. One of the things she likes to do is show people our house - "This is mama's room... and daddy's room too!" That's not typical behavior for the just-turned-three, and shows a confidence in dealing with people that will help her avoid bullying situations in the first place.

This, is prolly the best of the three.

	10-02-2005 13:49									#39
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So you were trolling? Then I guess then you don't believe that

quote: I know now how immature it was and I'd never do anything like it again but I also don't see the point in freaking out about bullying like it's some kind of new hotbutton issue like 'road rage' or something.

And that is actually is a "hot topic" issue worthy of the public concern

And that you were lying when you said that:

quote: Admission: I've been on both sides of the fence. I was both bullied and a bully, so I can see that it's really just one of those 'flaring passions of youth' that rise and vanish. There was this one kid that I beat on from grades 5-8 at the bus stop. He was guilty of several crimes: 1)Immobili Boys Choir 2) High-pitched voice 3) Looked like sissy 4) Name was 'Prettyman'. It was pretty much a form of stress relief but I'm sure he knew it was all in good fun, I never damaged him much and I'm sure that in his future life he was greatly trained and toughened to deal with lifes many adversities.

Correct?

	10-02-2005 13:51									#40
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Purity of Essence

You'd be surprised about what went on back 80 years or so. Or maybe you wouldn't, but they still had some... interesting views about sexuality.

	10-02-2005 13:52									#41
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http://www.submissivewomenspeak.net/subbook.htm

Now here's a site (it's non-porn so don't worry) that really cuts through our societies current existential paralysis.

Despite how disturbing it is to your 21c sensibilities, have you ever seen a relationship more starkly honest, more brutally genuine, than Jon and Polly's? They strip the sugary morass off of bourgeois love and frankly live the desires we call 'base'.

Some would call this real life, non-play acting master/slave couple 'dysfunctional', 'obsessive', etc. I say they are on the bold forefront of a establishing a genuine human relationship on a foundation of total honesty and acceptance.


EDIT: The Admission is true. That it's a 'hot topic' is also true, although it shouldn't be.

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	10-02-2005 14:04									#42
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quote: EDIT: The Admission is true. That it's a 'hot topic' is also true, although it shouldn't be.

Sorry, then. Posting your actual opinions and getting flamed for them isn't trolling. Either that or my friend Ben Kenobi is the greatest troll on the entire site.

	10-02-2005 14:06									#43
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Why shouldn't it be a hot topic? Kids are killing themselves over it. I can't think of a bigger issue that deserves serious consideration than this.

	10-02-2005 14:08									#44
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But haven't you ever felt the intense, the proto-orgasmic need to inflict/recieve suffering?

All humans long to dominate and to be dominated.

Some are just more honest about it than others.

Wouldn't you agree?

	10-02-2005 14:10									#45
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Right. Time to google proto-orgasmic.

	10-02-2005 14:13									#46
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I come back confused. What are you on aboot?

	10-02-2005 14:20									#47
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BD: Surely you must've, at some time, dominated the weaker and felt that secret thrill?

C'mon....you can admit it to me...I never tell lies and I would treat any confidences in the total and absolute secrecy of the internet.

	10-02-2005 15:02									#48
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Bullies tend to be abused and / or neglected kids themselves, and often bullies and the bullied are simply two sides of the same coin. I sometimes stood up for kids who were being bullied. Most of the time it helped and they appreciated it, but there were more than a few whose behavior simply invited bullying, who didn't seem to know how to do anything else but be bullied and who seemed to miss the attention when they weren't being humiliated. It's a complicated subject.

	10-02-2005 15:18									#49
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I am thirty-eight years old.

There are people out there who bullied me in middle school who would be well advised not to be alone in a room with me and any kind of hardware.

	10-02-2005 15:18									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker But haven't you ever felt the intense, the proto-orgasmic need to inflict/recieve suffering?

Nope, that's just you...perhaps you should seek a suitable S+M partner to fulfil all these fantasies with.

Bullying can cause serious long term psychological damage and is generally pretty vicious and savage. Yet some of you have the audacity to refer to it as 'harmless fun' and it would be 'ungentlemanly' to grass. I've never seen such naive bullsh*t. Get real, the lot of you.

	10-02-2005 15:23									#51
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Always be kind to the nerdiest guy in your class, because he's going to be your boss when you are adults

	10-02-2005 19:08									#52
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I'm pleased that my late-night ramblings have added so much to the Apolyton lexicon.

	10-02-2005 19:16									#53
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bullies...

i was bullied for a year or three, a real hell.

until i found out that i was actually physically stronger than them

1 example was needed. never been bothered again.

and this is what i suggest to anyone being bullied. hit them as hard as you can. it's the only language they understand.

	10-02-2005 19:28									#54
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I still haven't recovered from being bullied in school. At the time, if I'd had access to weapons, instead of talking about Columbine, you'd be talking about Batavia. I used to fantasize about making everyone pay.

Oddly enough, it made me more compassionate towards others, but my life has never been stable and depression has followed me through my adult life. When things aren't going well, I feel that's what I deserve. When things are going well, I feel it's only a matter of time before someone discovers I'm a fake, and I lose verything again.

Just had to post this thread on a day I'm going in for an interview and dredge all these horrible memories up. Thanks a lot, a**hole.

	10-02-2005 19:33									#55
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither What is your position on spilling out our vitality through mastrubation?

	10-02-2005 19:36									#56
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Beating the crap out of your bully

I hit this big ass ****er right in the nose. He just said, "What did you do that for?" I said, "There's more where that came from mother ****er." As he walked away I noticed that my thumb was broken. Because of the adrenaline I didn't notice it at first.

	10-02-2005 19:37									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker BD: Surely you must've, at some time, dominated the weaker and felt that secret thrill?

No.

But it's always great fun when some dork of a would-be bully decided that because I was 5 foot six I was potentially a good target.


Until I said something to them in public that made them feel 2 inches tall, and which people remembered until we eventually left school.


Of course it doesn't stop there, and I vividly recall having one cr@ptastic manager who treated the disciplinary code as if it were the Enigma Code, something to be deciphered rather than employed in the workplace.

Bullying isn't a rite of passage and it doesn't make people leaner, fitter human beings, it costs lives, jobs, and money.

	10-02-2005 19:37									#58
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I was bullied a bit by a big fat kid a couple of years older but then again he bullied a lot of people

One time 3 of us got sick of it and when he started to bully one of my friends, he ended up with 3 of us attacking him ( I think that the 3 of us together might have had 20 pounds on him)-- He didn't bully any of us any more after that

	10-02-2005 19:51									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker http://www.submissivewomenspeak.net/subbook.htm Now here's a site (it's non-porn so don't worry) that really cuts through our societies current existential paralysis. Despite how disturbing it is to your 21c sensibilities, have you ever seen a relationship more starkly honest, more brutally genuine, than Jon and Polly's? They strip the sugary morass off of bourgeois love and frankly live the desires we call 'base'. Some would call this real life, non-play acting master/slave couple 'dysfunctional', 'obsessive', etc. I say they are on the bold forefront of a establishing a genuine human relationship on a foundation of total honesty and acceptance.

There´s a little difference between BDSM-Plays and bullying
In BDSM both of them, the dom as well as the sub do it voluntarily,
and, if done correct you also have "safewords" so that the master knows if he drives it too far.
Also both parts derive pleasure from the BDSM-Plays.

All things you haven´t in bullying at school.
Neither is it fun for the kid that was bullied, nor does he voluntarily choose to be bullied and of course you also won´t find safewords there

Therefore I see absolutely no reason to compare BDSM and the behavior of stupid kids at school

	10-02-2005 19:54									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Proteus_MST Therefore I see absolutely no reason to compare BDSM and the behavior of stupid kids at school

Quite.


In my experience most people don't understand that the one in 'control' is really the submissive.