10-02-2005 21:58									#1
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I've just grabbed Settlers 2 from the website-whose-name-we-dare-not-speak.

I didn't get very far in it the last time around. Playing from the first scenario now, except that I am not sure where I should be building what mines. Is there a way to prospect for granite, gold, and iron explicitly?

	10-02-2005 23:40									#2
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1. we already have a settlers2 thread, but its ok to have one centering on YOUR questions

2. You send a geologist to a flag near where you want him to look. click on the flag and you get choices to build a road, take down the flag, send a geologist, or send an explorer.

3. I BOUGHT my copy of Settlers2 just a few weeks ago - for $5 used at EB. Its not at all impossible to find legally (although finding it in a brick and mortar store was unusual, ill admit)

	11-02-2005 00:19									#3
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Did you even look for other threads about it? I don't mean search, just look for it..!

Hint: While I post this the other thread is at the bottom of this forum

	11-02-2005 01:03									#4
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Wow, 2 threads on such an old game.

	11-02-2005 01:31									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Did you even look for other threads about it? I don't mean search, just look for it..!

Yep. I knew that I got it because of a discussion about it somewhere, thought it was at Apolyton, scanned through the active threads, couldn't find a discussion, and decided to post my question anyways.

D'oh.

	11-02-2005 03:00									#6
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fortunately ive put the game aside, thus avoiding quandry as to whether my comments on it should go on that thread or this one

	11-02-2005 03:26									#7
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Shame. You could have posted in both.

	11-02-2005 22:53									#8
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I am on the second scenario right now. My Empire grows merrily until suddenly -- BOOM -- I stop getting new soldiers. The supply of weapons is plentiful, so what else do I need? Is there a population limit?

Disbanding existing guardposts gives some soldiers, but it also contracts my borders in unpalatable ways.

	12-02-2005 00:09									#9
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You do know you need beer, sword and a shield to create one soldier?

	12-02-2005 00:21									#10
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So very realistic.

	12-02-2005 00:50									#11
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike So very realistic.

you only need one beer to train them, and after that no additional beer is needed for support Is THAT realistic? Actually its the classic RTS model, where you need resources to build a soldier but not to support them. Of course the need for gold to train them is very NICE touch.

But realism - heck, IIUC, you cant TRADE in this game, and you cant establish diplo relations with the other groups.

(edit yes I KNOW you were joking, i just found it a useful basis for a rif)

	12-02-2005 03:28									#12
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark (edit yes I KNOW you were joking

Looks like it.

	12-02-2005 12:11									#13
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I forget the actual specifics of mission 2, but I take it you have got the tech to build a brewery now? If so, build one. If not, send some scouts out - although if you have run out of soldiers without bumping into the brewer guy, chances are you won't make it now either.

If supplies to the brewery are a problem, either build more wells/grain farms or adjust the sliders so that the brewery gets the largest share of both.

	12-02-2005 12:42									#14
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Just finished mission 3. Thanks for all the help

Had to actually reload from save a few times until I preemtively pulled back, deleted a few buildings, and built fortresses in place of guardposts.

Interesting stuff.

	12-02-2005 15:27									#15
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If you want to waste your time with Settlers, I suggest you instead get Widelands and contribute to it by... I dunno, drawing some graphics or writing a better renderer, for instance ?

	12-02-2005 21:09									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala If you want to waste your time with Settlers, I suggest you instead get Widelands and contribute to it by... I dunno, drawing some graphics or writing a better renderer, for instance ?

some us cant draw or write code

	12-02-2005 21:12									#17
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Just finished mission 3. Thanks for all the help Had to actually reload from save a few times until I preemtively pulled back, deleted a few buildings, and built fortresses in place of guardposts. Interesting stuff.

my sense is that guardposts are fine for border pushing, and you only really need fortresses for war. I guess it gets down to soldier:land ratios vs Stone:land ratios for each. Of course the absence anywhere on the net of the kind of nerdy ration mongering found for games like civ or caesar3 makes it hard to answer with any precision? Do the local S2 masters agree?

	12-02-2005 22:13									#18
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Well, there was a chokepoint where you suddenly face two tribes at once. The moment you attacked, they would wake up and attack too. Guardposts fell too fast and didn't provide me with enough soldiers to kick AI's ass, so I went all out.

	12-02-2005 23:16									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala If you want to waste your time with Settlers, I suggest you instead get Widelands and contribute to it by... I dunno, drawing some graphics or writing a better renderer, for instance ?

I just might do that.^-^

	12-02-2005 23:52									#20
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Well, there was a chokepoint where you suddenly face two tribes at once. The moment you attacked, they would wake up and attack too. Guardposts fell too fast and didn't provide me with enough soldiers to kick AI's ass, so I went all out.

That "the pass" right. Yup fortresses are good for that. Abd dont forget the gold, quality of troops is more important than quantity. and dont forget theres sliders on the military panel that let you push your troops toward the buildings on the borders.

	13-02-2005 03:57									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala If you want to waste your time with Settlers, I suggest you instead get Widelands and contribute to it by... I dunno, drawing some graphics or writing a better renderer, for instance ?

Nice... Too bad I don't know anything about graphics

And I doubt my programming "skills" would help anyone

But defently something I should keep an eye on

	13-02-2005 05:45									#22
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I build barracks almost exclusively. When I know I'm coming up to the enemy, I change to guardhouses if I expect the buildings to potentially come under attack. Then a fortress or two along the border so I have plenty of fodder to throw at them. Catapault / guardhouse combinations do well to keep the enemy away from you. Massed fortresses do well to prevent the enemy soldiers doing much of anything.

I always build a fortress closer to the interior of my land for training purposes though.