15-02-2005 00:09									#1
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People here (even some Republicans) are enraged after it came to light a few days ago that Bush's cronies had a "Do not Admit" list when he came to Fargo a few days after the inaguration. The people on the list are not left-wing activists or trouble-makers, just average people in this area. This is unlike other rallies, where there was no list, you just had to do a "loyalty oath" and get kicked out if you criticize Bush.

The questions are:
1. How did the administration get the info to make the list?
2. wouldn't this violate one's constitutional right to petition one's government?

	15-02-2005 00:12									#2
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Is the Democratic Underground's server down again?

	15-02-2005 00:14									#3
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quote: Is the Democratic Underground's server down again?

Don't be silly, everyone knows that when the server is down one goes to Counterglow.

	15-02-2005 00:14									#4
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Išve been to Fargo. Bonanzaville

	15-02-2005 00:19									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle Is the Democratic Underground's server down again?

This is all over our local news. besides, I hate DU.

	15-02-2005 00:25									#6
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"1. How did the administration get the info to make the list?"

Likely from people known to have views opposed to the administration who might cause trouble.

"2. wouldn't this violate one's constitutional right to petition one's government?"

For a private rally, no, no more then you have a right to go into GWB's bedroom at night to yell at him.

	15-02-2005 00:28									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi "1. How did the administration get the info to make the list?" Likely from people known to have views opposed to the administration who might cause trouble. "2. wouldn't this violate one's constitutional right to petition one's government?" For a private rally, no, no more then you have a right to go into GWB's bedroom at night to yell at him.

But Shi, this secrecy is destroying our democracy! Bush is obviously spying on the good people of Fargo!

	15-02-2005 00:34									#8
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quote: Likely from people known to have views opposed to the administration who might cause trouble.

The Stasi compiled a huge list of people known to have views opposed to the administration who might cause trouble from a sweeping network of informants.

Who made the Fargo list, and who contributed to it?

In any case, I'm not too upset, since it's my understanding it was a private function...

	15-02-2005 00:35									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi For a private rally, no, no more then you have a right to go into GWB's bedroom at night to yell at him.

Bush is a PUBLIC OFFICIAL, If Bush wanted it to be a rally for his fellow Republicans he should say so, if not than it is a PUBLIC event, not a private one.

	15-02-2005 00:43									#10
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Proof once again that the Dems are getting desperate when they have to hype stories like this one in a lame attempt to discredit the president.

Hell, aren't there enough real issues to discredit him with

	15-02-2005 02:53									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Proof once again that the Dems are getting desperate when they have to hype stories like this one in a lame attempt to discredit the president. Hell, aren't there enough real issues to discredit him with

No. Bush is kind of like Jesus, except more perfect.

	15-02-2005 02:55									#12
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The problem is, this is indicitive of the overall apporchability of Bush. You can't even protest him in his presence anymore. If you have an anti-Bush sign on a route he is traveling, you will be arrested.

	15-02-2005 03:03									#13
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The problem is, this is indicitive of the overall apporchability of Bush. You can't even protest him in his presence anymore. If you have an anti-Bush sign on a route he is traveling, you will be arrested.

First... "apporchability"?

Second... I've seen anti-bush signs on TV where he has been present, so your implication that ALL those that do so WILL be arrested is kind of stretching it a "tad"...

And Last.. Come on, desperation time... stick to abusing him for real meaningful reasons... I'm a Republican, and I can find far more things to attack him on that are far more important than this

	15-02-2005 03:03									#14
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The problem is, this is indicitive of the overall apporchability of Bush. You can't even protest him in his presence anymore. If you have an anti-Bush sign on a route he is traveling, you will be arrested.

and I ask, do you have some proof good sir?

	15-02-2005 03:05									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle and I ask, do you have some proof good sir?

Yes, but I'd have to search Salon for a while, and I don't wish to do this.

	15-02-2005 03:10									#16
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Yes, but I'd have to search Salon for a while, and I don't wish to do this.

That's ok, your reference to Salon.com is good enough for me.

	15-02-2005 05:48									#17
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Yes, but I'd have to search Salon for a while, and I don't wish to do this.

Oh yes... please find proof that everybody that shows an anti Bush sign gets arrested... Take your time... you'll need it.

	15-02-2005 05:48									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Odin People here (even some Republicans) are enraged after it came to light a few days ago that Bush's cronies had a "Do not Admit" list when he came to Fargo a few days after the inaguration. The people on the list are not left-wing activists or trouble-makers, just average people in this area. This is unlike other rallies, where there was no list, you just had to do a "loyalty oath" and get kicked out if you criticize Bush. The questions are: 1. How did the administration get the info to make the list? 2. wouldn't this violate one's constitutional right to petition one's government?

Eh, the right to petition generally means the right to petition CONGRESS.

	15-02-2005 06:09									#19
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People don't care about what the Constitution says specifically. The point is, that whatever their views are, the Constitution perfectly matches it.

	15-02-2005 06:24									#20
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Since when do politicians want voices of dissent in the crowd? I find the practice of "loading" the audience with supporters to be intellectually dishonest, but Bush et al didn't invent it.

	15-02-2005 06:42									#21
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Berz... you have to remember the proper perspective...

When Dems do it, it's brilliant..
When Bush does anything... it's bad

	15-02-2005 18:50									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Berz... you have to remember the proper perspective... When Dems do it, it's brilliant.. When Bush does anything... it's bad

I do wish people would make up their mind. Please establish a rule set so that I can tell if Bush is being a MORAN or simply evil incarnate.