15-02-2005 05:09									#1
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I'm no gun expert, so I'm curious if anyone can inform me.

What is the best weapon for each class. revolver, automatic pistol, submachine gun, assault rifle, shotgun, etc.

Yeah I was watching the history channel again. I love history channel. they just had a program on Kalashnakov weapons. They even said you can get an AK-47 for like $50 in Africa.

Anyone know where I can get one? I would love to get an AK-47. . For collecters item only of course.

I'll never know why guns seem cool to me. I guess that makes me evil.

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	15-02-2005 05:13									#2
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What's funny is they are advertising a magazine for women during the history channel's program: Tales of the gun.

	15-02-2005 05:14									#3
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I am very fond of the Minuteman missle system. It trumps most classes of firearms.

	15-02-2005 05:53									#4
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Since the day I played "Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear" I've been a fan of a Heckler & Koch submachine gun. It was the MP5, irc. I always used it, because it came with a silencer, so the bad guys couldn't hear you. Tango down! There was also a cool-looking austrian submachine gun. It was called the Stey Aug, or something like that.

	15-02-2005 05:54									#5
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Personally, I like the SMG + pistol combo best - combines range and ROF, pistols load all over the place, and beats the usual SMG + SMG or SMG + plasma rifle combo most people grab unless they're close and shoot first. I'm also fond of SMG + plasma pistol, since it's also easy to find and people go down in half a second once the charge shot takes out their shields.

	15-02-2005 05:56									#6
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Depends on what you mean by 'best' is money no object, or do you mean cost effective? Furthermore, what do you want the thing for?

For example, I own a .375 rem which is suitable for buffalo, however, it is a bit of overkill for things like small buck and totally useless for bigger things. Whilst I was living in Africa, I also had a cut down double barrel shotgun for home defence. Better than a pistol in terms of stopping power as (again for example) a .38 pistol will one fire one bullet, a 12 guage shell (depending on shot type) will fire up to (and more than) the equiv of 10 9mm bullets.

	15-02-2005 05:57									#7
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From observation also, the AK would cost you 50 bucks (or less) it was the magazines that would cost more , they were in short supply, especially in South Africa

	15-02-2005 05:58									#8
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The covie Carbine is also good, but it doesn't load on many maps where it's useful - notably Burial Mounds, where it's decent. The only other map I've encountered it in is Headlong, where it's practically worthless a lot of the time. I'd almost always pick the BR over it, anyway.

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I've always wondered about the M-16. How is it such a small bullet can kill anything? 5.56 mm? Even 7.62 mm seems small.

People always tell me my 9mm is a pea shooter. It probably couldn't bring down a human. Though I use hydroshok hollowpoints. They are supposed to provide more impact and not pass clean through a person.

I actually want to get a shotgun, but I know nothing about shotguns.

	15-02-2005 08:22									#11
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the funny thing is, even though I qualified on a shotgun in the navy, I know nothing about them. I just was qualifed to hit a target a certain distance away, and I proved I could do it left handed. Though we weren't required to actually hit the target left-handed- good thing, because I didn't .

We also qualified on the 1911A1 pistol. Yeah 9mm Berrettas were standard goverment issue at the time, but our division couldn't afford them. We still kept the old .45's. Those were nice, I wouldn't mind getting one.

	15-02-2005 08:27									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I've always wondered about the M-16. How is it such a small bullet can kill anything? 5.56 mm? Even 7.62 mm seems small. People always tell me my 9mm is a pea shooter. It probably couldn't bring down a human. Though I use hydroshok hollowpoints. They are supposed to provide more impact and not pass clean through a person. I actually want to get a shotgun, but I know nothing about shotguns.

I have a 12g, 3" Mag. pump.
I can still fire a regular shotgun shell, but also a Mag. shotgun shell.

	15-02-2005 08:28									#13
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I have a friend who's a gun freak. He owns a lot of guns. I've shot an AK47 - pretty powerfull.

	15-02-2005 08:59									#14
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I'm really undecided between the covie and human sniper. On one hand, the human sniper can pump out four shots as fast as you can pull the trigger. OTOH, it only starts with twelve bullets, and timed right the covie sniper can pump out 20 shots, 1 per second. It also seems to be easier to hit things with the covie sniper.

	15-02-2005 09:07									#15
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Here's the Steyr-Aug. Look's cool.

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	15-02-2005 09:51									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Personally, I like the SMG + pistol combo best - combines range and ROF, pistols load all over the place, and beats the usual SMG + SMG or SMG + plasma rifle combo most people grab unless they're close and shoot first. I'm also fond of SMG + plasma pistol, since it's also easy to find and people go down in half a second once the charge shot takes out their shields.

If you have the necessary skill, you should go with the plasma pistol + magnum combo. There's nothing like killing an overshielded opponent with only two shots...

	15-02-2005 10:09									#17
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo Here's the Steyr-Aug. Look's cool.

That is the fugliest gun I have ever seen.

And WHAT is that color? Liberace Glittering Gold? Who's says you can't look fabulous while mowing down you enemies?

	15-02-2005 10:23									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten If you have the necessary skill, you should go with the plasma pistol + magnum combo. There's nothing like killing an overshielded opponent with only two shots...

Yes, but I've found that the SMG is more tolerant of mistakes, which are easy to make with thirty of them going off in random directions

	15-02-2005 10:44									#19
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quote: That is the fugliest gun I have ever seen. And WHAT is that color? Liberace Glittering Gold? Who's says you can't look fabulous while mowing down you enemies

I happen to like fugly guns, the fuglier the better. And, no, that's not Liberace Glittering Gold, its just a bad photo. Liberace Glittering Gold... Btw, I was under the impression that girls don't like guns.

	15-02-2005 10:49									#20
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aren't gay people supposed to like liberace glittering gold?

	15-02-2005 10:55									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Personally, I like the SMG + pistol combo best - combines range and ROF, pistols load all over the place, and beats the usual SMG + SMG or SMG + plasma rifle combo most people grab unless they're close and shoot first. I'm also fond of SMG + plasma pistol, since it's also easy to find and people go down in half a second once the charge shot takes out their shields.

I personally prefer grenades to a second weapon. I used to love the M6D pistol. It's too bad they stopped making them. Since then, I've preferred the M90 shotgun to the M7 caseless submachine gun. You simply get a whole lot more power from it.

	15-02-2005 11:11									#22
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I happen to like fugly guns, the fuglier the better. And, no, that's not Liberace Glittering Gold, its just a bad photo. Liberace Glittering Gold... Btw, I was under the impression that girls don't like guns.

*Sigh*

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	15-02-2005 11:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident aren't gay people supposed to like liberace glittering gold?

Glitter is evil. Sequins are evil. Shiny clothes are evil.

Glittery, shiny, sequined costumes? Satan himself wimpers in fear like a badly beaten puppy.

	15-02-2005 11:17									#24
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The ag90 (Barrett M82A1) is a cute little toy

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	15-02-2005 11:18									#25
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It has cute ammo too

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	15-02-2005 11:22									#26
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For long range target shooting, either one of the .50 caliber sniping rifles - I don't have my gun digest handy. For varmint shooting (long range small caliber sniping) a bolt action .243, though some of the wildcat .243 cartridges, i.e. the 30-06 cartrigdge necked down to take a .243, are supposed to be awesome, especially with a long bull barrel (heavy barrel). In medium calibers the Weatherby cartridges are nice, and the wildcat 7mm-30. caliber Weatherby (a .30 Weatherby necked down to 7mm) has taken some of the 1000 yard competitions, at least a decade ago when I was still following that sort of thing. I have the .30 Weatherby, it's one of three factory produced southpaw rifles, and I got it for a very good price. Kicks like a MF.

	15-02-2005 11:47									#27
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quote: *Sigh*

I know, I know. I was screwing with you. I also saw that thread.

	15-02-2005 11:50									#28
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For the record, my experience with weapons is limited to slingshots and bow and arrows.

	15-02-2005 12:00									#29
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc For long range target shooting, either one of the .50 caliber sniping rifles - I don't have my gun digest handy. For varmint shooting (long range small caliber sniping) a bolt action .243, though some of the wildcat .243 cartridges, i.e. the 30-06 cartrigdge necked down to take a .243, are supposed to be awesome, especially with a long bull barrel (heavy barrel). In medium calibers the Weatherby cartridges are nice, and the wildcat 7mm-30. caliber Weatherby (a .30 Weatherby necked down to 7mm) has taken some of the 1000 yard competitions, at least a decade ago when I was still following that sort of thing. I have the .30 Weatherby, it's one of three factory produced southpaw rifles, and I got it for a very good price. Kicks like a MF.

Takes three people to carry a .50 cal sniper rifle, and you can't snap shot worth a damn.

I have had trouble with both weatherby and remmington cartridges in tropical environments (which have been corrected by removing ten grains of powder). Still I stand by my orignal post, .375 is the best al round calibre I have used. As a totally useless statistic, a 375 cal bullet will only leave between a 3 and 7mm hole in the heart of an african buffalo (depending on if heart is contracted or not) if fired from front and less than 50 metres. Additionally, a person hit in the lung with a 30 06 has a 72% chance of survival if he/she gets basic (compression bandage) treatment within five minutes and a 98% chance of survival if they are still alive one hour afterwards. The only real danger is if an arterery was hit on the way through apparently/ I will track down the source of that little tidbit.

There are sme good book available on bullets, calibres and rifles (with impressive analysis on wound ballistics) available if you care to look or ask.

	15-02-2005 12:32									#30
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BFG 9000.