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Urban Ranger
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py
You did read it, didn't you? If so, you may have missed a few bits. |
First of all, the article is clearly written sympathetically (e.g. "top band of scientists") instead of critically.
Second of all, statistically speaking, runs are often. That means if you flip a coin, heads and tails tend to cluster together instead of spaced evenly. When you have a bunch of machines that flip coins or generate 0's and 1's, it's not surprising that you will see a bunch of 0's or 1's all coming out at once.
Thirdly, this project has not made any predications. All these people have been doing were matching what they thought to be patterns in the output with real world events.
Forthly, serious scientific experiments - experiments that used proper controls - on paranormal phonomena have so far yielded no positive results. Speaking of controls, this project has none.
I can keep going, but there is no reason to do so.
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Combat Ingrid
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Satan's Majestic Empire
Nov 2001 time: 06:24
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I found this part really intriguing, assuming the results are real:
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Dr John Hartwell, working at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, was the first to uncover evidence that people could sense the future. In the mid-1970s he hooked people up to hospital scanning machines so that he could study their brainwave patterns.
He began by showing them a sequence of provocative cartoon drawings.
When the pictures were shown, the machines registered the subject's brainwaves as they reacted strongly to the images before them. This was to be expected.
Far less easy to explain was the fact that in many cases, these dramatic patterns began to register a few seconds before each of the pictures were even flashed up.
It was as though Dr Hartwell's case studies were somehow seeing into the future, and detecting when the next shocking image would be shown next.
It was extraordinary - and seemingly inexplicable.
But it was to be another 15 years before anyone else took Dr Hartwell's work further when Dean Radin, a researcher working in America, connected people up to a machine that measured their skin's resistance to electricity. This is known to fluctuate in tandem with our moods - indeed, it's this principle that underlies many lie detectors.
Radin repeated Dr Hartwell's 'image response' experiments while measuring skin resistance. Again, people began reacting a few seconds before they were shown the provocative pictures. This was clearly impossible, or so he thought, so he kept on repeating the experiments. And he kept getting the same results.
'I didn't believe it either,' says Prof Bierman. 'So I also repeated the experiment myself and got the same results. I was shocked. After this I started to think more deeply about the nature of time.' To make matters even more intriguing, Prof Bierman says that other mainstream labs have now produced similar results but are yet to go public.
'They don't want to be ridiculed so they won't release their findings,' he says. 'So I'm trying to persuade all of them to release their results at the same time. That would at least spread the ridicule a little more thinly!'
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Jon Miller
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so they get all surprised that there is anticipation?
JM
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mrmitchell
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quote: Exactly the point I was going to make. They know they are about to be shown something, so why wouldn't the brain have an increase in activity over such anticipation? What a ridiculous "experiment," if indeed the claim is even true (many claims of such things are just outright falsehoods, esp. ones that are claimed to have been made so long ago).
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Presumably they would be smart enough to at least make the pictures flash at random intervals so you can't anticipate as well.
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