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techumseh is offline techumseh
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...in consumption.

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China overtakes U.S. as world's biggest consumer
Last Updated Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:15:59 EST
CBC News
WASHINGTON - China has surpassed the United States to lead the world in the consumption of basic food and industrial goods, a study says.


INDEPTH: China's economic miracle

The booming Asian country now uses more meat, grain, steel and coal, according to an environmental think-tank's report released Wednesday.

The only basic commodity still consumed in greater quantities by Americans is oil, says the report from the Washington-based Earth Policy Institute.

The Chinese have even eclipsed Americans in consumer goods, buying more refrigerators, more televisions and cell phones.

"China is no longer just a developing country. It is an emerging economic superpower, one that is writing economic history," writes the institute's president, Lester Brown.

"If the last century was the American century, this one looks to be the Chinese century."

However, per capita consumption in the world's most populous country remains far below that of the United States.

According to the report:

China's 1.3 billion people ate 64 million tonnes of meat in 2004, compared with 38 million tonnes consumed by the 297 million people in the United States.
China used 382 million tonnes of grain in 2004, compared to 278 million tonnes in the United States.
China's use of steel in 2003 soared to 258 million tonnes – more than twice that of the United States – as hundreds of thousands of factories, high-rise apartments and office buildings were constructed for rapidly growing urban populations.
China burned 800 million tonnes of coal compared to 574 million tonnes in the United States, leading the Earth Policy Institute to warn "it is only a matter of time until China will also be the world's top emitter of carbon."
Sales of almost all consumer products are skyrocketing in China, especially of electronics. In 2003, China had 269 million cell phones, for example, compared to 159 million in the United States.
The Chinese still lag behind the Americans in their use of automobiles, however, with only one-tenth of the 226 million vehicles that clog U.S. roads.

The report says that China's "voracious appetite" for goods ranging from grain to iron ore to forest products has placed it "at the centre of the world raw materials economy," driving up commodity prices and ocean shipping rates.

Brown warns that the United States, which is the world's leading debtor nation, now depends heavily on Chinese capital to underwrite its fast-growing debt.

"If China ever decides to divert this capital surplus elsewhere, either to internal investment or to the development of oil, gas, and mineral resources elsewhere in the world, the U.S. economy will be in trouble."

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Damn, we're #2!

Though we knew this was coming.

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Much of these are very low value items. It will take a while before China surpasses the US in use of high value items, if it ever does, as the cars statistic illustrates. For instance, it would be puzzling if the Chinese consumed fewer grains than Americans.

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Why assume the Chinese would consume more grains than the US?

First, Americans eat more Calories daily than the Chinese, but more to the point, I think grain consuption might include feeding animals, and the US uses a lot of grain feeding cattle and so forth, probably more than is consumed by American citizens.

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As long as we get more stuff like this, it's ALL TO THE GOOD:



Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Are we going to take this? I say No!

Let's all get more gas guzzling SUVs, eat more steak and buy! buy! buy!

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What is the US debt these days?

Last I heard it is very large. Did bush do this?

How will it be payed off? Or will it?

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I have Discover Card Platinum, so don't sweat it Max Webster.

In the meantime, we need more Chinese hoes with guitars and miniskirts.

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Got spare money?

Just go to Thailand.

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But then that would be Thai hoes.

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Nah, that would Katoys. (sp?)

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I see you have also been to Thailand.

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* nods *

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but we **** consume more useless overpriced ****

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But then that would be Thai hoes.


Not all of them. Besides you should choose the Chinese girls. It will make their families so happy since they're the ones who sent them there for it.

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I think grain consuption might include feeding animals, and the US uses a lot of grain feeding cattle and so forth, probably more than is consumed by American citizens.


Animals consume vastly more gain than humans do.

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Let's bomb them so they remember their place.

Dirty communists.

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But they still have more than three times the population...

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Four times you mean.

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hence "more then 3 times".

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It would be more precise to say more then four times.

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However, per capita consumption in the world's most populous country remains far below that of the United States.

Yes, that is the silly part of this comparison. With it's enormous, but poor, population, it's not such a big surprise.

However, in areas where the economic transformation is concentrated (like the town I live in), the speed of development really is quite an amazing spectacle.

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Hangzhou as well.

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Here you can see the huge mistake the Americans made since 1997, by denying to ratify the Kyoto treaty. With their cooperation we would have been able to force China into the treaty as well. This would have helped control the Chinese boom, to the benefit of the United States. Now it's more difficult.

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Four times you mean.


Four > three.

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Here you can see the huge mistake the Americans made since 1997, by denying to ratify the Kyoto treaty. With their cooperation we would have been able to force China into the treaty as well. This would have helped control the Chinese boom, to the benefit of the United States. Now it's more difficult.


And how would you do that? The Chinese communists already have everything they wanted, trade wise, so what leverage do you have? It's not like you can retailiate against their trade since they're now in the WTO.

BTW the US signed it in 1997 and it was Bush who unsigned it in 2001.

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Four > three.


I didn't say you weren't accurate I said mine was more precise.

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Four > three.

It's just kind of odd to use 'three' when the multiplier is actually closer to five than four.

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Here you can see the huge mistake the Americans made since 1997, by denying to ratify the Kyoto treaty. With their cooperation we would have been able to force China into the treaty as well. This would have helped control the Chinese boom, to the benefit of the United States. Now it's more difficult.

That's a rather... interesting viewpoint to take on Kyoto, an agreement which would've hurt the industrial capacacity of USA no matter how it would've been twisted towards China.

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