17-02-2005 22:01									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Stay away from SSRIs, they have been linked to suicide, are known to cause dependancy, and have been known to wear off after awhile. As I understand it, the brain trying to retain homeostasis will downregulate in response to the extra Seratonin, causing the level of Seratonin to go down canceling out the effect of the SSRI. Then when the SSRI is taken away the Seratonin that is lost makes the situation even worse. Also, I have heard that SSRI can limit brain function in the long run.

A bit reductionist. It is a problem that there can be problems associated with antidepressants. It is why anyone taking antidepressants should be closely monitored, but scaremongering like yours is also not correct...millions of people have been helped by SSRIs. And the alternatives? You think counselling is going to help those who genuinely cannot be talked around?

	17-02-2005 22:02									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat WTMI

WTMI? Way to myocardial infarction?

	17-02-2005 22:08									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Elok Maybe it eventually causes some cognitive downgrade, but I haven't noticed that either. In Sava's case I'd say the more important thing would be to stop playing stupid crap like GTA and rap, which he's evidently been doing recently to judge by his avatar and sig. Immersing yourself in wannabe-street-thug culture and then complaining that life feels empty and meaningless is like going to a Times Square brothel and then complaining when you catch the clap. Duh!

I don't really listen to rap that much. But don't diss GTA biyatch!

It's all in good fun Elok.

	17-02-2005 22:25									#34
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Sava, when I was 24 and still in school I worked as a waiter and delivered pizzas. There was nothing wrong with that since it paid the bills, had flexible hours, and offered something a starving student couldn't refuse... Free food!

As for the girlfriend issue. Those type of things work themselves out if you let them just put yourself into positions where you will meet new people and get out more. Go for a jog, hike some local trails, join a sports team, start playing chess at coffee houses, go to plays, in short get outside because that's where the girls are.

	17-02-2005 22:29									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Sava, when I was 24 and still in school I worked as a waiter and delivered pizzas. There was nothing wrong with that since it paid the bills, had flexible hours, and offered something a starving student couldn't refuse... Free food!

yeah the pay is good... I make like $10 - $20 an hour, depending on how busy it is.

quote: As for the girlfriend issue. Those type of things work themselves out if you let them just put yourself into positions where you will meet new people and get out more. Go for a jog, hike some local trails, join a sports team, start playing chess at coffee houses, go to plays, in short get outside because that's where the girls are.

I'm trying online dating... so far I've met 1 good one, that turned out bad... and one weird one, that turned out bad.

I've got two other maybe's that I'm working on.

	17-02-2005 22:47									#36
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Online dating does work. A friend of mine met his girlfriend on Craig's List plus my father of all people has gone on two dates with women he met on Match.com. I'm actually happy to see him dating because in the nince months since my mther died all he did was mop and drink to much. This gets him out more.

	17-02-2005 22:49									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I'd be Jesus and tell you to stop persecuting gay people.

How do you know he didn't say that and it just got edited out the Bible, along with being nice to Arabs and not setting people on fire?

One thing I'd change about my life? I'd like an instant heal for my arm. I'd find it a lot easier to face life if I wasn't screaming so much.

	17-02-2005 22:51									#38
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What did you do to your arm?

	17-02-2005 22:54									#39
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I'll reattach the conjoined twin to my forehead.

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	17-02-2005 23:16									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison WTMI? Way to myocardial infarction?

Way too much information

	17-02-2005 23:17									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I'm seeing one therapist who keeps telling me, "just think happy thoughts".

That's what I tell my kids after they have a bad dream. I think a therapist treating an adult with depression should do better than that.

If I could change on choice:
I would have placed more emphasis on my friends during college instead of wasting so much time on my then girlfriend. Now they're all gone - gf and friends.

	17-02-2005 23:41									#42
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One thing?

I would have probably expressed my emotions to the most beautiful girl in the world at the time. I did ask her to run away from home with me to Rome but perhaps it was too vague. GOD what a crush I had on her.

	18-02-2005 02:55									#43
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Actually, I'd recommend exercise on a lot of grounds, Sava. Not only for the chance to meet chicks, but to lose the weight, vent some stress, give you the feeling of doing something effectual and rewarding...did I mention that exercise is linked to better mood and self-image in like a bajillion studies, which makes it a better-proven antidepressant than anything chemical?

And regarding the rap thing, good fun or not it's best to be safe. Bad music can have unexpectedly far-reaching effects. In high school one of my classmates was a huge fan of Marilyn Manson; she took on a research project in which she was in charge of one group of mice, and she played her favorite music while she observed them, of course. Her mice KILLED AND ATE EACH OTHER. The control group she had no access to acted like normal, decent mice. See what lousy music does to mammalian brain function?

	18-02-2005 03:03									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Elok And regarding the rap thing, good fun or not it's best to be safe. Bad music can have unexpectedly far-reaching effects. In high school one of my classmates was a huge fan of Marilyn Manson; she took on a research project in which she was in charge of one group of mice, and she played her favorite music while she observed them, of course. Her mice KILLED AND ATE EACH OTHER. The control group she had no access to acted like normal, decent mice. See what lousy music does to mammalian brain function?

Do you have a reference to that paper, and has it been repeated?

	18-02-2005 03:55									#45
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I would like a third arm, that would make me special.

	18-02-2005 04:14									#46
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I'd have been born smarter and sexier and healthier and richer and just generally more awesomer.

If I had to pick just one, then I'd go with "awesomer."

I'd settle for "less crazy" as an alternative.

	18-02-2005 04:19									#47
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Mice routinely kill and eat each other when to many mice are put into to small of an area. It's a way for the dominant mice to thin the ranks.

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	18-02-2005 05:14									#49
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I would have fought with my high school to put me into advanced computer applications instead of computer applications. I was so bored in that class.

More importantly, if I hadn't had to take computer apps, I never would have met that girl, and I never would have fallen for her, and then I never would have had that stupid, long, torturous breakup with my bestfriend because we ****ing fell for the same girl.

And then I would have never entered the lowest depths of my depression, where I found comfort and friendship in people I would have not normally associated with.

And then, not being so depressed, I never would have had the revelations that changed my life and made me who I am today.

Well damn. Butterfly effect. Funny that.

	18-02-2005 05:19									#50
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I'd pick not to have depression. I'd like to not have asthma, but it kept me out of the military at a stage in my life when I was very moldible, and thus would be a very different person.

	18-02-2005 05:46									#51
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I would have picked the winning lottery number

	18-02-2005 05:52									#52
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... seems to be a significant amount of depressed people here.

I'd do two things over

1. I would have put more effort into my undergraduate admissions process. I only applied to three schools.

2. I would have partied less and studied more my Freshman year of undergrad.

	18-02-2005 05:54									#53
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WTF is up with so many polytubes being depressed? What, is the reason you spend so much time on the internet because this means of communication is attractive to depressed people or what? Come on people! Get outside, smell the flowers, talk to people, get exercise, go surfing... do something.

Or is it the average population is as depressed as Poly?

	18-02-2005 05:58									#54
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NO it's freezing outside. There are no flowers outside they're under the snow. Talk to people? you are definitely not from around here are you crazy?! Get exercize, well it's cold and freezing out there.. surfing? Not possible. Do.. something? Well yes I will go to sleep. But then again, I'm not depressed. Too sexy to be depressed.

	18-02-2005 06:00									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Wycoff I'd do two things over 1. I would have put more effort into my undergraduate admissions process. I only applied to three schools. 2. I would have partied less and studied more my Freshman year of undergrad.

I only applied to four though I knew I'd get into two of them (UC San Diego & UC Santa Barbara) and the other two were "reach" schools for me (Berkley and UCLA). UCSD was arguably the better school over all but I loved the UCSB campus and they had a better geology department even if UCSD was rated slighly higher over all (mostly because they have a medical school). As an added benifit if I could live in my own apartment if I moved to Santa barbara where as staying in San Diego would have meant stay at my parents.

I do wish I studied more but I still got a 3.0 average and I partied my ass off so I can't really complain. Especially since UCSB was/is 75% female.

	18-02-2005 06:04									#56
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Mines general. I would have never procrastinated. Of course I still do it, but I do it less and less.

Regret is useful. As long as you use it going forward. The most important history to study is your own, so that you don't repeat your own mistakes. So yes if given the chance to do some of the things I had done mistakenly before I would have done them differently. Would I be in a different situation and a different person, yes. I like who I am and what I have, but It's not perfect.

	18-02-2005 06:07									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka NO it's freezing outside. There are no flowers outside they're under the snow. Talk to people? you are definitely not from around here are you crazy?! Get exercize, well it's cold and freezing out there.. surfing? Not possible. Do.. something? Well yes I will go to sleep. But then again, I'm not depressed. Too sexy to be depressed.

OK, well still do something social inside if you must. I know Finns have a reputation for being anti-social but if you are persistent then some young lady might slip up and talk to you.

For exercise there are always indoor gyms.

	18-02-2005 06:13									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I only applied to four though I knew I'd get into two of them (UC San Diego & UC Santa Barbara) and the other two were "reach" schools for me (Berkley and UCLA). UCSD was arguably the better school over all but I loved the UCSB campus and they had a better geology department even if UCSD was rated slighly higher over all (mostly because they have a medical school). As an added benifit if I could live in my own apartment if I moved to Santa barbara where as staying in San Diego would have meant stay at my parents. I do wish I studied more but I still got a 3.0 average and I partied my ass off so I can't really complain. Especially since UCSB was/is 75% female.

I applied to 3 schools: Harvard, William & Mary, and University of Maryland- Baltimore (only because I could apply there free of charge). I was wait-listed at Harvard, so I went to W&M. Its a great school, but its overshadowed by other schools with bigger names. I figure that had I applied to some other Ivy League schools that I would have probably been admitted to one of them. However, I was big into athletics in high school and a bit on the immature side, so I only put a half-hearted effort into my applications.

Your Freshman Year sounds similar to mine. I partied, never studied, and pulled out a 3.0. However, those were in Freshman level classes. I progressively got my act together and achieved a 4.0 my Senior year taking 400 level classes. I finished with a 3.6 gpa, but had I even put a small effort into my Freshman year I bet that I could have had ended up with 3.75 or over, which would have been PBK and summa *** laude. Oh well.

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W&M? I visited there when I was looking at schools, very sound Oldest school in the country, lovely campus, nice town... Great school IMO. I didn't go there since I am from the west coast, but if I was out east it of definitly been a topper.

	18-02-2005 06:21									#60
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I never got a 4.0 not even in high school. My best year I pulled off a 3.33. My total undergraduate GPA is 3.0 which makes it hard to get into a first tier grad school. I'll have to get my MBA from a second tier school but that's not to bad say there are two or three where I live and, now that I'm a home owner, I'm unwilling to move.