17-02-2005 19:14									#1
	General question regarding rules. Got spare money?

I am asking this here for good reason. As rules state:

• It is not allowed to locate bases in unexplored tiles.

	17-02-2005 19:18									#2
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Probably should PM somebody about this too... for some reason my gut says our admins don't visit us much with how... (boring)/(on task) we are.

	17-02-2005 21:29									#3
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It was allowed in previous DG, and I don't think it's forbidden now.

	17-02-2005 22:48									#4
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quote: Originally posted by mart7x5 I am asking this here for good reason. As rules state: It is not allowed to locate bases in unexplored tiles. How exactly one should understand this point. The way I do, is: - when clicking on an unexplored tile, the map do not recenter if the tile contains a base. This constitutes "location of bases in unexplored tiles" How about using infiltration screens? An infiltrated faction's base screen can be accessed, map within its radius can be seen, as well as the map of supported unit positions. Using it one can recreate the map enclosed within bases' radiuses of an infiltrated faction. Is this allowed?

It is allowed. I had not thought of it breaking the rule, but I will go with past precident and continue to allow it. Perhaps the rules should be updated to "it is not allowed to locate bases in unexplored tiles unless through diplomatic or infiltration means"?

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	18-02-2005 20:29									#5
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Great, so we will have Hive territory somewhat better reveald soon. I think I will do it this weekend.

	19-02-2005 00:07									#6
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I would say yes.

It sound like covert ops and reverse enginering information.

	19-02-2005 08:27									#7
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Slowly going forward - I have just located "The Hive"

It wasn't that difficult after all - hive has bases in large extent overlapping - thus easy task locating common tiles in base radiuses.

	19-02-2005 09:07									#8
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Ok, I have to take care of other stuff, so meanwhile a compressed jpg of the map - it is rather bad quality, but compression ratio is like 102 times. Just for general review, if someone is interested before I make the final version for the whole Hive. Coastline is the most interesting part. The center of the hive territory is just dense base grid - nothing interesting.

I will remove this file later.
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Last edited by mart7x5 on 21-02-2005 at 09:34

	19-02-2005 13:25									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue It is allowed. I had not thought of it breaking the rule, but I will go with past precident and continue to allow it. Perhaps the rules should be updated to "it is not allowed to locate bases in unexplored tiles unless through diplomatic or infiltration means"?

The way I see it is that when having the access to the infiltrated base screens, one can view those maps, which are part of that base datalinks. We can assume, that each base has its maps. Infiltration reveals them. Actually locating a base might be very precise. The only problem is that bases close to polar caps have their "y" coordinate uncertain. On small maps it is most often the case. Having "x" though is enough when bases have dense grid. Spartan loose base placement might though make big trouble there.

In short, I think this "map recreation" should be always allowed. I hope it will be in the next demo games too.

	21-02-2005 01:23									#10
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very nice map,its hard to tell it wasnt part of our LOS in the frist place.they have more bases on the other side of that mountain right?

	21-02-2005 09:34									#11
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the whole map is ready now. check the infotrader thread. post or pm your email, so I can send it to you. it is over 500kB when zipped.

	21-02-2005 18:12									#12
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Looking at that map, I don't think any longer that the Spartans are on our north, especially if taking into account that the Morgans did not have the Gaian comlink. So 't might be possible that our probe transport will find a Morgan base coming turn and with the turmoil they should be in now (their HQ destroyed) will give us better odds infiltrating. Uni must still be to the west of our transport then for if Kassi's news is even half reliable, both factions must have close access to that faction.

	21-02-2005 18:51									#13
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This is my guess

Attachment: acdg3_map_small_01.jpg
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

	21-02-2005 18:53									#14
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And just right away a thought here - we are as far from Spartans as we could be. If they are going to be manace in the coming years it is good for us. ... hopefully

	22-02-2005 02:09									#15
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That looks a pretty reasonable guess.