17-02-2005 20:05									#1
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quote: Feb. 17, 2005 — President Bush plans to tap John Negroponte, the current U.S. ambassador to Iraq, as his nominee to become the nation's first national intelligence director, ABC News has learned. If confirmed by Congress, Negroponte, 65, would be charged with coordinating the activities of 15 U.S. intelligence agencies in a position created in response to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Negroponte also would control the flow of spy information and the purse strings for intelligence. Bush is expected to announce his choice of Negroponte, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, at a 10 a.m. news conference. Bush signed the bill creating the position of national intelligence director on Dec. 17, and White House spokesman Scott McClellan explained why the president took his time choosing a nominee. "This is a position of critical importance and the president wanted to make sure he gets it right," The Associated Press quoted McClellan as saying. "This individual will have the full authority to do the job that needs to be done and will have the full confidence of the president of the United States." Bob Callahan, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, declined to confirm the appointment of Negroponte as intelligence director. "As far as we know Negroponte continues to serve here in Iraq at the pleasure of the president," Callahan said. But a senior official directly involved confirmed Negroponte will be nominated. "We don't even have a short list yet" on his replacement as U.S. ambassador to Iraq, the senior official said.

	17-02-2005 20:09									#2
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Why on earth him, if he is the choice?

The bang up job he has done as ambassador to Iraq? The bang up job he did supporting deathsquads in Central America, what?

Or his virtuoso performance in the UN?

	17-02-2005 20:36									#3
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I feel so much safer now.

	17-02-2005 20:43									#4
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Bush and co. worked with him everday at the UN and at the Iraqi embassy, so they must have been impressed by his work. At a minimum, they know his qualities and drawbacks.

It's sort of a weird situation to have Porter Goss under him, though. Going from the congress to second tier administrator isn't a typical move.

	18-02-2005 06:29									#5
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Why on earth him, if he is the choice? The bang up job he has done as ambassador to Iraq? The bang up job he did supporting deathsquads in Central America, what? Or his virtuoso performance in the UN?

Word, this is ****ed up.

	18-02-2005 06:34									#6
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Negroponte should have spent the rest of his life in jail for Iran-Contra. I'm a guy who generally likes Reagan and I'm still saying this.

	18-02-2005 06:35									#7
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Wow, what an odd choice.

	18-02-2005 06:42									#8
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Having a complete bastard as head of our nation's intelligence.

	18-02-2005 06:49									#9
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What the INS says about Negroponte's Batallion 3-16:

quote: Between 1980 and 1982, the Public Security Forces (FSP) created the Special Operations Command (COE) which gathered intelligence and coordinated actions against the opposition, including campesino organizations. The FSP was supported by the National Investigations Directorate (DNI), whose job was to spy on and repress campesino organizations, unions and students. Intelligence Battalion 3-16 was also created in the early 1980s with the help of the CIA. Together with the DNI, Battalion 3-16 is blamed for the repression, capture, interrogation and disappearance of about 180 people, generally popular movement leaders (Inforpress, October 1998).

http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/...n/Honduras3.htm

According to the CIA Inspector General:

quote: Intelligence Battalion 3-16 was also created in the early 1980s with the help of the CIA. Together with the DNI, Battalion 3-16 is blamed for the repression, capture, interrogation and disappearance of about 180 people, generally popular movement leaders.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/latin_...eport/02-05.htm

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	18-02-2005 09:31									#10
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Of course, Bush also recently promoted Iran-Contra superstar Elliot Abrams to the post of Deputy NSA.

See? He really is Reaganesque...

	18-02-2005 10:09									#11
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I think we should abolish the position of "President" and replace it with the honourary title of "Reagan". All hail Reagan George W. Bush. All hail future Reagan Jeb Bush. Warm salutations to future Reagan Jenna Bush.

	18-02-2005 10:15									#12
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I'd hit it.

Barbara is hotter though.

	18-02-2005 10:34									#13
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But Jenna's sluttier.

	18-02-2005 10:41									#14
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True

	18-02-2005 10:47									#15
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quote: I think we should abolish the position of "President" and replace it with the honourary title of "Reagan".

	18-02-2005 13:25									#16
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Huh-huh, huh-huh, you said Negro, huh-huh, huh-huh

	18-02-2005 17:15									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo What the INS says about Negroponte's Batallion 3-16:

How was this Honduran batallion Negroponte's? Was he in it? Did he raise it? Did he command it?

	18-02-2005 17:28									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I'd hit it. Barbara is hotter though.

Threesome

	18-02-2005 18:00									#19
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quote: How was this Honduran batallion Negroponte's? Was he in it? Did he raise it? Did he command it?

We know that Negroponte was responsible for the disbursement of military aid to Honduras including Batallion 3-16 et al., and was responsible for covering up their atrocities. So at best, he was criminally negligent regarding the Batallion; at worst, who knows. Incidentally, when he was announced as an appointee to the UN Ambassadorship, the Bush Admin immediately deported several former members of the death squad (including the founder of the batallion, Gen. Alvir, who was Honduras' Deputy Ambassador to the UN at the time) who could've elaborated on Negroponte's relationship to it with the Senate.

	18-02-2005 18:34									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo quote: How was this Honduran batallion Negroponte's? Was he in it? Did he raise it? Did he command it? We know that Negroponte was responsible for the disbursement of military aid to Honduras including Batallion 3-16 et al., and was responsible for covering up their atrocities. So at best, he was criminally negligent regarding the Batallion; at worst, who knows. Incidentally, when he was announced as an appointee to the UN Ambassadorship, the Bush Admin immediately deported several former members of the death squad (including the founder of the batallion, Gen. Alvir, who was Honduras' Deputy Ambassador to the UN at the time) who could've elaborated on Negroponte's relationship to it with the Senate.

Bush or Machiavalli? You decide.

	18-02-2005 18:44									#21
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I'm sure Bush is worse than Machiavelli in Ramo's world...

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	18-02-2005 18:57									#23
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quote: Bush or Machiavalli? You decide.

Deporting someone who could testify on your nominee to the UN Ambassadorship's relation to a death squad hardly takes a political genius. And for all his faults, Shrub is an effective politician.

To clarify, in '94 the Honduras Human Rights Commission charged Negroponte with a number of human rights violations.

	18-02-2005 20:18									#24
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Aside from the general stupidity of creating a NID, this is rather ho hum.

This position like teh creation of Homeland Security Director is a position destined for failure as this position simply creates yet another filtering level of bueracracy when every shred of evidence says the problem was analysis of data, not layers of management. The ability to share intel inter-departmentally does not IMO require the establishment of an Uber beuracrat.

	18-02-2005 20:28									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe when every shred of evidence says the problem was analysis of data, not layers of management.

No it wasn't. There were plenty of Feds lower down who were railing to high heaven about the threat. It was that the guy running the FBI decided that illegal drugs were a more serious threat than terrorism, and so he didn't put that many resources or attention into anti-terrorism. Under Clinton, they're number one guy routinely had to go around Freeh's head to Reno to get anything done. After Reno was gone, so was his career, so he left to become chief of security at the WTC. He died on 9/11.

The Man Who Knew

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	18-02-2005 20:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No it wasn't. There were plenty of Feds lower down who were railing to high heaven about the threat. It was that the guy running the FBI decided that illegal drugs were a more serious threat than terrorism, and so he didn't put that many resources or attention into anti-terrorism. Under Clinton, they're number one guy routinely had to go around Freeh's head to Reno to get anything done. After Reno was gone, so was his career, so he left to become chief of security at the WTC. He died on 9/11. The Man Who Knew

So your saying layers of bueracracy filtered the threat analysis down to a low hum below the need for a useless war on drugs ehhh?

Thats my read as well.

	18-02-2005 20:33									#27
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I'd say you need to read the 2nd link.

	18-02-2005 20:44									#28
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Its teh same old same old. The various intel agencies aren't free with their info and/or individual agencies need reform. That being said the reason teh agencies themselves were broken is because the command chain didn't prioritize analysis of threats. Having a longer chain of so called decision makers does not improve the threat assessment but moreover implies analysis paralysis.

The need to have freerer intel sharing between agencies does not have to mandate the creation of a NID, IMO but moreso calls for massive rehauls of the structure and intent of FBI, CIA etc.. But when that happens ala Porter Goss the only things mentioned are that it is retribution/vendetta time not in the context of overhaul (at least so says McCain).

	19-02-2005 00:04									#29
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Fifteen intelligence agencies? Is that normal?

	19-02-2005 00:25									#30
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Negroponte = blackpoint ?