18-02-2005 02:32									#1
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you decide. Either way this is one tenacious little bastard.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1482142,00.html

disclaimer: I do not give a rats ass about abortion.

	18-02-2005 02:35									#2
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this can't be true!!

and if it is, exactly how do you explain this to the kid when he's older.

He's not going to be happy knowing his mother tried to kill him. '

oh wait, abortion supporters claim he wasn't a person, so he shouldn't be upset that he mother tried to end his life before it technically existed.

Note: I'm not anti-abortion. It's a female issue, I don't have to make that decision, so I don't care.

edit: severe lung disease. infections. Yet people still claim it ins't life.

I know, I know- I shouldn't get involved in this issue. I'm just trying to use logic, not politics on this issue. I recommend others try to do the same.

	18-02-2005 02:38									#3
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quote: He was allowed home after seven months of treatment. Dr Paul Clarke, one of the report’s authors and the baby’s doctor at Hope hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, said: “This mother went through extreme hardship waiting to see if her baby was going to make it. She was told to expect him to die so many times. I am full of admiration for her.”

fvck her, the beitch tried to kill him!

	18-02-2005 02:39									#4
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It's a monster.

	18-02-2005 02:40									#5
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quote: After birth the child was rushed to the hospital’s neonatal intensive care unit where he was on a ventilator for 7Ĺ weeks. He fought off several life-threatening infections and suffered from severe lung disease for his first six months. He was allowed home after seven months of treatment.

I wonder where those infections came from. and the lung disease?

	18-02-2005 02:46									#6
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I thought most late abortions were surgical, not chemical. Obviously the chemicals failed to work, thought the clinic was obviously negligent when they told her that ultrasounds showed the fetus was dead, unless at the time the heart was not beating and it started up later.

How do you not notice a pregnancy 5 months into it?

	18-02-2005 02:48									#7
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When you're a fat whore?

	18-02-2005 02:58									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Japher When you're a fat whore?

I don't think it's necessary to add the whore comment

but yes, I've heard of really fat women not detecting it. Seems strange even still. but oh well.

	18-02-2005 02:59									#9
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I'd be so pissed if I was that kid. But look on the bright side. You can use guilt trips to get whatever you want from your mother. If she says something, you just say "well you tried to kill me"

	18-02-2005 03:06									#10
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"Abortion is a female issue"

	18-02-2005 03:27									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson "Abortion is a female issue"

well, women always claim they should have a right to their bodies.

Who am I to say abortion is murder? men already oppress women enough.

	18-02-2005 06:15									#12
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Abortion that late is just insane. 8 - 12 weeks must be max unless there are serious threats to the mother.

If she didn't think she could cope with yet another but first found out that late, then there are lots of childless people that would have fought for adobtion.

	18-02-2005 06:19									#13
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Well, who are they to guilt-trip an honest debate into silence? People have a right to property, regularly superceded when, say, an endangered species is found living on it; after all, what was slavery if not a question of states' rights? Who was the Federal Government to come in and say what states should and shouldn't do, especially when that power was strictly reserved by the constitution for the states? (I might note, in passing, that slavery as states' rights has at least as good of a justification as abortion as right to privacy, and both neatly sidestep their opponents' objection) That whole line of argument, while common, is a tawdry rhetorical cheat and should be discarded.

	18-02-2005 06:26									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha you decide. Either way this is one tenacious little bastard. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1482142,00.html disclaimer: I do not give a rats ass about abortion.

That woman was stupid. No other way to put it.

	18-02-2005 09:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It's a monster.

What did she call it? Damien?

	18-02-2005 12:31									#16
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quote: I thought most late abortions were surgical, not chemical.

Why does it matter, one way or another?

	18-02-2005 12:32									#17
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	18-02-2005 20:22									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Why does it matter, one way or another?

Because surgical would have less of a chance of failing. Hence, a superior method given the aim.

Seems obvious, really.

	19-02-2005 00:07									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson "Abortion is a female issue"

SEXIST!!!

	19-02-2005 00:51									#20
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quote: Dr Paul Clarke, one of the report’s authors and the baby’s doctor at Hope hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, said: “This mother went through extreme hardship waiting to see if her baby was going to make it. She was told to expect him to die so many times. I am full of admiration for her.”

YOU WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE! REAL EASY TO BE SYMPATHETIC FOR THIS "BRAVE" WOMAN AFTER SHE TRIED TO MURDER HER CHILD!

This ***** should have her child taken from her.

	19-02-2005 00:57									#21
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THey should have just flushed the thing down the toilet.

But then he would have survived and become the ANTI-ABORTION SUPERHERO!!!

**rejected by society, left to die in the sewers, ITS (music) DUH DUN DUN DUUUUHH!H!!!!! SUPER ANTIABORTION MAN!!!!

	19-02-2005 01:44									#22
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Abortion can involve either male or female issue. By definition, it is the prevention of any issue, regardless of gender. So you might say, more accurately, that it's the absence of issue altogether.

See, that's what Shakespeare class does to you after a while.

	20-02-2005 00:36									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident well, women always claim they should have a right to their bodies.

Of course they should. But not to the baby of their children in their wombs.

quote: Who am I to say abortion is murder?

And who are You to claim it is not?

quote: men already oppress women enough.

Don't be silly. That women were opressed by men doesn't mean now women can kill babies of both sexes.

	20-02-2005 00:41									#24
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I'm the boss of my own house. I own it. Now I can kill my wife while she's in my house?

	20-02-2005 00:48									#25
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abortionist claim that fetuses aren't human. That's how they get away with it.

You'll have to prove this kid is human.

Although the fact that the kid could survive out of the womb is proof enough.

How can this **** be legal?

abortion

	20-02-2005 00:54									#26
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Does it have a 666 on it's head?

Well that is going to be interested when he finds out that his mother tried to get rid of him in the womb and failed and is going to be stuck with him...real mindf**ker that one! Is it going to be like the relationship between Dr. Evil and Scott?

	20-02-2005 00:57									#27
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I'm the boss of my own house. I own it. Now I can kill my wife while she's in my house?

A complete nonsequitur. You and your wife are in the house together by mutual agreement. If the situation changes, you can move away from each other by whatever means.

You know, they've found teratomas that have basic twitch reflexes - do you think that they should be allowed to live?

	20-02-2005 00:58									#28
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...however in this case the stage the abortion was performed is a different matter entirely...

	20-02-2005 01:04									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison You know, they've found teratomas that have basic twitch reflexes - do you think that they should be allowed to live?

Leaving aside the stupid comparison for a moment, would you agree that a 22 week old fetus is signifigantly different from a cancer cell?

	20-02-2005 01:52									#30
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Leaving aside the stupid comparison for a moment, would you agree that a 22 week old fetus is signifigantly different from a cancer cell?

At 22 weeks, there is no denying that...that is horrendously late in the pregnancy.