21-02-2005 05:20									#31
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right on, they do, but again what I said is the truth. You know you can't make the truth different even if you want to. It's OK, it's great if you derive from these kings and all that. But it still doesn't change the fact, that they never wanted to battle my forefathers, it is understandable and it was a wise decision, otherwise it would be me who was the king heritage.... you see, I'm cool with that, you can be all the power to you for that.

	21-02-2005 05:21									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion which presidents?

Polk and Harrison

	21-02-2005 05:24									#33
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever We were Kings, to claim a 'relationship' with a President probably means your Great Great Great Aunty was a prostitute who went two's up on Jefferson and Washington. I win

Kings = thugs. Your ancestors were no greater boon to humanity than the average Crip lord!

	21-02-2005 05:28									#34
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But it beats a vague reference to a 'relationship' though doesn't doesn't it.

	21-02-2005 05:30									#35
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you had a president named Harrison?

	21-02-2005 06:09									#36
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My ancestors tagged along with William of Orange for a bit. If he got a bit restless around the chamber maids, I could be related to the British and Dutch monarchies.

	21-02-2005 06:10									#37
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I've got Polish royalty in me.

	21-02-2005 06:18									#38
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quote: Have you got any good (free) sites? My family is from Liverpool and then Ireland where should I go?

Irish heritage society or something like that, but you can just google your name and it might lead you to sites.

quote: I've got Polish royalty in me.

We've hit a new low

	21-02-2005 06:45									#39
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever But it beats a vague reference to a 'relationship' though doesn't doesn't it.

You're claiming ancestry simply based on your name! For all you know you may be directly related to the cousin who was kept locked in the tower in order to placate the peasentry.

Oh wait. Did I say locked in the tower? Excuse me. IIRC the Irish prior to being saved from their mad inbred warlords by the English had just discovered mud and were nowhere near the castle building stage of civilization.

I can also claim a direct link to the man responsible for adding the territory northwest of the Ohio river. He conquered an area larger than the UK, and France together. Another ancestor was one of the main explorers of the Louisiana purchase. Oh, and I can also claim a link to Mark Twain.

	21-02-2005 07:02									#40
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I'm related to Robert the Bruce.

	21-02-2005 07:28									#41
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One of my ancestors was a royal guard in Denmark sometime in the 17th or 18th century or so. I think that's about as high on the social ladder as my ancestors ever got -- the vast majority of them were illiterate farmers in France until they moved to Canada and became illiterate lumberjacks.

	21-02-2005 07:29									#42
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<-- supposedly descended from the Hapsburgs.

	21-02-2005 07:36									#43
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The closest name we've ever found is Luziatta, which was a family of German Jews which immigated to Italy in the 16th Century. I suspect we are not related, because my Italian family was a bunch of the Pope's peasants. We weren't owned by just anyone, but by God's man on Earth.

Course, on the other side of the family, I'm decended from various nobles (Irish, English-Scotts, German, etc.).

	21-02-2005 11:13									#44
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Descended on mother's side from Angle nobility with possible royal connection (Burch). Exact lineage prior to 1600 is too uncertain to be more precise.

Descended on father's side from a minor Italian noble's daughter married off to a German dude, again tracing back past 1600 problemmatic.

	21-02-2005 12:21									#45
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O'Dubhda family (pronounced "O'Dooda")

Hmm, it is pronounced with a long "u" but our name ended up with the short "u" somewhere all along the dooda day

	21-02-2005 12:22									#46
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<------ decended from those who spanked the Habsbourg, and those who spanked the Rooskies

	21-02-2005 12:36									#47
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I beay you all hollow - my great-grandfather WAS a king .

	21-02-2005 15:29									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild My ancestors tagged along with William of Orange for a bit. If he got a bit restless around the chamber maids, I could be related to the British and Dutch monarchies.

If you mean William III (married to Mary II) he 'got restless' with some of his male friends too.

	21-02-2005 18:34									#49
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My family on my father's side were peasants in Britanny. Because of the lack of any lore in the family, I strongly doubt it has ever been close to royal blood.

My mother's side is Jewish, making it unfit for being close to royal blood as well, in Europe at least. Well, maybe not, as Isabella's husband had Jewish ancestors, and my family had lived in Spain. Maybe I am really related to the guy, as Molly said

	21-02-2005 18:47									#50
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	21-02-2005 19:43									#51
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom If you mean William III (married to Mary II) he 'got restless' with some of his male friends too.

Yes, but presumably he didn't get the pregnant.

	21-02-2005 20:29									#52
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quote: Gee, last time I can remember people making fun of last names was grade school, nice to see you are staying young,

O'course!

	21-02-2005 23:53									#53
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As far as I know, my ancestors were humble Norwegian fishermen and German peasants.

	22-02-2005 00:05									#54
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<------------- ancestors massacred the MacDonald clan and illustrated the Lindisfarne Gospels.

...not at the same time, obviously. A bit difficult to do fine gold-leaf work with a murdered Scotsman hanging off your sword blade.

	22-02-2005 00:18									#55
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not many people in the world with my last name,

	22-02-2005 01:00									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker My aunt did a geneological search and found at least 1 ancestor who fought under William the Conqueror.

My aunt and uncle did a search as well, and found at least 1 ancestor who WAS William the Conqueror.

I have a thatched-roof cottage that I need you to burn down for me.

	22-02-2005 01:09									#57
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my uncle did a seach and found that as far back as he could trace, my family consists of working class cockneys and a welsh miner, hooray!

	22-02-2005 21:59									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion actually on my paternal grandmother's side there are some French de Rohan lines... that means I'm one of them Rohirrim from LotR

Obey me.

	22-02-2005 22:06									#59
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my wifes family claims to be descended from Rashi, the very prominent medieval Jewish commentator on the Bible and other Jewish texts. I cant vouch for the accuracy of that, but given that he had several grandchildren, that a marriage to a descendant was presitigios, and given how tight the late medieval demographic bottleneck is for Ashkenazic Jews (virtually all descended from fewer than 50,000 in late 15thc or so) it wouldnt surprise me if its true.

In turn its traditionally held that Rashi is a descendant of the line of King David ( I presume via the Babylonian Exilarchs, who claimed Davidic descent) Of course medieval era geneologies of this type are notoriously unreliable. Still, QOTM and POTM can at least claim royal descent from King David. (unfortunately this is through the female line - Rashi had no sons - so they are not in line to produce the moshiach)

	22-02-2005 22:17									#60
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Emperor (in fact, Dynasty) totally pwns a mere King.