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Which Country is 2nd most powerful (Time out:0 days after 22-02-2005, 23:42)
China
Great Britain
France
Germany
Japan
Russia
India
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Aivo˝so is offline Aivo˝so
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Finland
Sep 1999
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Deutschland , the biggest economy and most populous nation in the EU.

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Canada
Aug 2001
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Look up comparative GDP's. Start adding up western European countries. You'll notice you can stop after the big four.


what good is money if you can't produce the weaponry required to wage war? If you go on GDP alone, fine, UK wins. But remember that we were brought to our knees by German subs in WW2. As soon as that happens...

Better question would be to compare the industrial output (ie steel, iron, electricity, amount of food produced within their borders, and the amount imported etc...) of the western European countries, to that of China, and see who wins...


Hmmm...you seem to be a bit confused on these issues. If you go by GDP alone, China is actually number two in the world (or three, behind Japan, depending on which numbers you use) but it's them, not any western European country, that can't produce the weaponry required to wage war - or at least good weaponry. Britain, France, Germany, Russia and even Sweden have far greater capabilities to produce modern weapons systems than China.

As for all the output factors you mentioned, western Europe as a whole outproduces China in pretty much every category, again by a large margin.

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correct, its the access to the needed raw materials AND the industrial-military complex within a country that needs to be coupled to political will.

That being said, I still stick with China being number 2.

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http://www.nationmaster.com/

This website should provide useful, quick, information so that we can all make snap judgements.

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1. Norway 0.942
2. Sweden 0.941
3. Canada 0.940
4. Belgium 0.939
5. Australia 0.939
6. United States 0.939
7. Iceland 0.936
8. Netherlands 0.935
9. Japan 0.933
10. Finland 0.930
11. Switzerland 0.928
12. United Kingdom 0.928
13. France 0.928
14. Austria 0.926
15. Denmark 0.926
16. Germany 0.925
17. Ireland 0.925
18. Luxembourg 0.925
19. New Zealand 0.917
20. Italy 0.913
21. Spain 0.913
22. Israel 0.896
23. Singapore 0.885
24. Greece 0.885
25. Cyprus 0.883


Seems about right to me. Norway is the hyperpower, Sweden is the superpower, and Canada is the great power. Everyone else is our banana republic.

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Sep 2001
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So you're dissing us on 0.001 of a point??!!!! Right, that's it!!!!



What's the stat about anyway?

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What's the stat about anyway?


It's the Human Development Index (HDI), slave.

 
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