24-02-2005 17:33									#1
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050208/80/fbzpn.html

Dedicated fan...only a month ago we had a similar testicle removing incident in the UK...and 2 years preivously the article on the Welshman ******** a Ewe in full view of tourists on a train.

Something in the water? Coal tar poisoning left over from the thirties?

	24-02-2005 17:44									#2
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	24-02-2005 18:01									#3
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Ahh, the lovely miss Wales 2002.

Gotta love the shirt advertising btw...

	24-02-2005 18:02									#4
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We've been asking ourselves that for 1000 years.

	24-02-2005 19:15									#5
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from the article:

"Geoff Huish, 26, was so convinced England would win Saturday's match he told fellow drinkers at a social club, "If Wales win I'll cut my balls off", the paper said on Tuesday."

Well as a welshman myself i can only try to offer my insight. I think it may be to do with the old saying "Taffy was a welshman, taffy was a thief" and the english description for "welching on a bet". The term 'welch' from which the name for Wales and the welsh comes, is actualy an old anglo-saxon word for foreigner.

Which is kind of rich when the 'german' Saxons were the actual foreigners to the british isles at the time, and from whom the english have their roots(added with a good dose of norman french of course)

Since our brutal occupation these are just some of the tags that have been heaped upon welsh people as a whole.

So in reaction to this maybe the guy just decided he couldn't hack being accused of 'welching' on his bet?

Or maybe we're just a bunch of celtic nutters?

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	24-02-2005 19:17									#6
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Or maybe we're just a bunch of celtic nutters?

Leave us out of it, bejaysus and begorrah.

	24-02-2005 19:24									#7
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This can't possibly be a generally Welsh trait, or they wouldn't have survived as a race. It was my impression that you need those things to reproduce, you know.

	24-02-2005 19:45									#8
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from bbc sport rubgy section:

"Anyone who has heard the Welsh national anthem being sung by thousands of rugby fans will tell you it's an unforgettable song.

No matter what your nationality, it'll make the hairs on the back of you neck stand on end.

The anthem is called Hen Wlad fy Nhadau and was written by Evan James and his son James in 1856.

The English translation is Land of My Fathers, but the anthem is always sung in Welsh.


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Hen Wlad fy Nhadau

Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn anwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri
Ei gwrol rhyfelwyr, gwlad garwyr tra mad
Tros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.

Chorus

Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad,
Tra mor yn fur
I'r bur hoff bau,
O bydded i'r heniaith barhau.

Hen Gymru fynyddig, paradwys y bardd,
Pob dyffryn, pob clogwyn, i'm golwg sy'n hardd
Trwy deimlad gwladgarol, mor swynol yw si
Ei nentydd, afonydd i mi

Os treisiodd y gelyn fy ngwlad dan ei droed,
Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ag erioed
Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad
Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.



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Translation

Land of My Fathers

The land of my fathers is dear unto me
Old land where the minstrels are honoured and free
Its warring defenders so gallant and brave
For freedom their life's blood they gave.


Chorus

Home, home, true am I to home
While seas secure the land so pure
O may the old language endure.


Old land of the mountains, the Eden of bards
Each gorge and each valley a loveliness guards
Through love of my country, charmed voices will be
Its streams, and its rivers, to me.


Though foemen have trampled my land 'neath their feet
The language of Cambria still knows no retreat
The muse is not vanquished by traitor's fell hand
Nor silenced the harp of my land."


It was a good and deserving victory over the england rugby team, but not worth losing your nuts over imho

	24-02-2005 19:56									#9
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor from bbc sport rubgy section: "Anyone who has heard the Welsh national anthem being sung by thousands of rugby fans will tell you it's an unforgettable song. No matter what your nationality, it'll make the hairs on the back of you neck stand on end.

My partner's father is in a Welsh male voice choir, and they're extremely popular all over Europe, the United States and Canada. They even scored free drinks for all of them when walking back from a performance in Germany. The bar owner heard their accents, invited them in to sing one song, and then it was free beer all the way. Very happy Welshmen.


I always like the bit in 'Zulu' when they sing 'Men of Harlech'. Gets to me in the same way as when they sing 'The Marseillaise' in 'Casablanca'.

The Welsh

'Zulu' :

The Marseillaise:

'Casablanca' :

	24-02-2005 19:59									#10
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unpronounceable names of suburbs of Philadelphia

	24-02-2005 20:06									#11
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark unpronounceable names of suburbs of Philadelphia

Such as ? (curious molly)

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quote: Hen Wlad fy Nhadau Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn anwyl i mi, Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri Ei gwrol rhyfelwyr, gwlad garwyr tra mad Tros ryddid collasant eu gwaed. Chorus Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad, Tra mor yn fur I'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r heniaith barhau. Hen Gymru fynyddig, paradwys y bardd, Pob dyffryn, pob clogwyn, i'm golwg sy'n hardd Trwy deimlad gwladgarol, mor swynol yw si Ei nentydd, afonydd i mi Os treisiodd y gelyn fy ngwlad dan ei droed, Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ag erioed Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.

And suddenly I understand why that guy in the pic has no teeth, it's so he can pronounce these words!!!

	24-02-2005 20:07									#13
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark unpronounceable names of suburbs of Philadelphia

That would explain all the afro-americans with the surname 'Williams' then?

And Alva (its a phonetic language for the most part)

	24-02-2005 20:11									#14
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Did the Welsh trade their vowels to the Finns in exchange for their consonants?

	24-02-2005 20:15									#15
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In the title:
Wlad = land

First line
wlad = land

second line
Gwlad = (old?) land

but then in chorus,
gwlad = home!!

	24-02-2005 20:15									#16
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quote: Originally posted by alva And suddenly I understand why that guy in the pic has no teeth, it's so he can pronounce these words!!!

Says the chap from the Land of the Phlegms.

	24-02-2005 20:18									#17
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ok while we're at it:

"who's coat is that jacket?", sheep-sha*ging, stealing beef etc etc

But you'll never take away the glory of our male voice choirs or Tom Jones(or a rugby victory over england)

	24-02-2005 20:20									#18
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Such as ? (curious molly)

From brittania.com:

"At first, the Welsh language was a major tongue in the streets of Philadelphia, many of whose streets were laid out by Thomas Wynne of Caerwys, North Wales, personal physician to William Penn (his house Wynnewood remains standing, the first stone-built house in the state). Large tracts of land to the north and west of the city were given Welsh names. For instance Uwchlyn, Bala Cynwyd, Bryn Mawr, Llanerch, Merion, St. David's, North Wales, Gwynedd, Tredyffryn, and so on, all of which remain today, and many of which remain unpronouncable to native Pennsylvanians. "

I live in Uwchlyn

	24-02-2005 20:21									#19
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 From brittania.com: "At first, the Welsh language was a major tongue in the streets of Philadelphia, many of whose streets were laid out by Thomas Wynne of Caerwys, North Wales, personal physician to William Penn (his house Wynnewood remains standing, the first stone-built house in the state). Large tracts of land to the north and west of the city were given Welsh names. For instance Uwchlyn, Bala Cynwyd, Bryn Mawr, Llanerch, Merion, St. David's, North Wales, Gwynedd, Tredyffryn, and so on, all of which remain today, and many of which remain unpronouncable to native Pennsylvanians. "

Mmm. Thanks.

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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Says the chap from the Land of the Phlegms.

That's only when rosbievs try to speak dutch/flemish !!


Dammit, when do we get out :tongue smiley back!!

	24-02-2005 20:38									#21
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Llanfairpwllgwyngychgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio
gogogoch

That infamous place name.

If we can do that then cutting of a testicle over a rugby result seems entirely possible

	24-02-2005 21:00									#22
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor from bbc sport rubgy section: "Anyone who has heard the Welsh national anthem being sung by thousands of rugby fans will tell you it's an unforgettable song. No matter what your nationality, it'll make the hairs on the back of you neck stand on end.

Of course it will, it is just a couple words short of calling Cthulu

quote: The anthem is called Hen Wlad fy Nhadau and was written by Evan James and his son James in 1856. The English translation is Land of My Fathers, but the anthem is always sung in Welsh. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hen Wlad fy Nhadau Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn anwyl i mi, Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri Ei gwrol rhyfelwyr, gwlad garwyr tra mad Tros ryddid collasant eu gwaed. Chorus Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad, Tra mor yn fur I'r bur hoff bau, O bydded i'r heniaith barhau. Hen Gymru fynyddig, paradwys y bardd, Pob dyffryn, pob clogwyn, i'm golwg sy'n hardd Trwy deimlad gwladgarol, mor swynol yw si Ei nentydd, afonydd i mi Os treisiodd y gelyn fy ngwlad dan ei droed, Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ag erioed Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.

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anyone got a link to an mp3 welsh national anthem? I've been looking for one for 3 hours.....

	25-02-2005 00:35									#24
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I always like the bit in 'Zulu' when they sing 'Men of Harlech'. Gets to me in the same way as when they sing 'The Marseillaise' in 'Casablanca'.

I have March of the Men of Harlech sung by the Welsh Guards (I think) in welsh rather than the english in Zulu. Maybe its not quite as good as the skirling of the pipes to make ya wanna go out and get into some ****, but its stirring stuff anyway.

	25-02-2005 16:07									#25
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius anyone got a link to an mp3 welsh national anthem? I've been looking for one for 3 hours.....

the best i could find is a real player one........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/scrumv/f...cathjenks.shtml

@SpencerH,

I know what you mean about bagpipes - they do make me want to go kill someone

In serious mode though, a stirring bagpipe rendition is just what you need to get the blood up, something the scots rugby team need more of i think

	25-02-2005 16:26									#26
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I know what you mean about bagpipes - they do make me want to go kill someone In serious mode though, a stirring bagpipe rendition is just what you need to get the blood up, something the scots rugby team need more of i think

I always think that the idea with Scots bagpipe playing is that it encourages the Scottish troops to run away from it and attack the enemy, who are of course the reason the terrible caterwauling is being played.