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Lord Nuclear is offline Lord Nuclear
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PAL discovered them with a suicide galley. They have already met CDG. BAT is strong to PAL, and does have feudalism.

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Can we get a detailed description from PAL on where they found BAT?

--Togas

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I guess they followed my direction to locate Phonix - Southeast from our island. BAT borderes can be seen north of Phoenix. But I'll ask them on the joint forum.

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posted by Maxfin on the joint board
We went directly east toward our eastest point and send our attacking forces toward east. After 1 turn in ocean we met BAT which is south of their continent. GWT is in North side and they are in far west of the map.

We have very good meeting with BAT and we are waiting for their resbond after talks. Not sure if they were bluffing but it seems that they could be rdy to join us. Let's say that Military tradition we should get soon was one good 'candy'

GWT didn't receive Feudalism from BAT so we are hopefull that GWT won't get it anytime soon.

How is your research going btw? We should get Gunpowder in 3 turns. And we have get our GNP almoust into same as before our GA. Ofcourse builded FP is helping a lot.

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Victory screen reports PAL as the largest opponent (both land and population) but BAT have the highest culture (nearly twice our culture and +50% in Ur compared to Apolyton)

Addtionally they have completed the Great Library last turn

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Wow.
OK, time to get buisy.

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We need to set up a chat with them as soon as possible, since it appears they are going to be a key ally in this game for us.

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Will whomever officially forwards the save please send them a note saying "Hi. We wish to set up a chat with you sometime soon. What times are convenient for you?"

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Since I need to leave right now, I'm fine with anyone sending the save.

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I guess this falls into my department...

here's a proposed first message (assuming they don't contact us first - I haven't seen any new messages from them as of yet.

To propose a message (and I hope that they can understand English, as I don't know a word of French)
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Salutations!

I am [sender] of Apolytonian Republic. We've recently made contact with a Sumerien galley off the shores of our nation, and we are glad to have recently met your civilization.

We would like to schedule a chat sometime soon so we can discuss various diplomatic matters - technology, trading, relations with other teams, etc.

Of course, we can always be contacted via e-mail with our team address: apolyton-c3c@@@rockbandit...net
[sender]

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It might be nice to include a salut, comment ca va, or au revior.

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And to fix the spelling errors...... (eek, the guy who spells 'of' as 'uv' is offering spelling advice...)

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It's not my fault that I can't spell.

Anyway, changes made. What's a good french 'good-bye?' for the end of the message?

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has someone sent this message?

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No, but I've just read though some stuff at bananacookie, so I figure it's time to get moving. Again.

Anyway, in light of possible further cooperation with BAT and PAL, I'd have to amend the message a bit:

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Salutations!

I am [sender] of Apolytonian Republic. We've recently made contact with a Sumerien galley off the shores of our nation, and we are glad to have recently met your civilization.

We would like to schedule a chat sometime soon so we can discuss various diplomatic matters. Of vital importance is also discussion of greater technical, commercial, and military cooperation between Apolyton, your nation, and PAL in preparation for a possible joint invasion of Webringen.

Of course, we can always be contacted via e-mail with our team address: apolyton-c3c@@@rockbandit...net

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Looks good - send it so we can schedule a chat for the weekend and allow more people to attend it

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Recieved some three hours ago from BAT:

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Salutations,

It is with pleasure we finally meet your civilization.
I am Lordevil, the Foreign minister of the Batros Republic.

Of course, we are looking forward to schedule a chat with you too. All my governments members live in France and are often available between 8.30 PM and 10.30 PM (Paris time) but i Live in Montreal, I am also available between 8.30 and 10.30 PM but Eastern time. So let me know your avaibility and I will try to schedule something.

Respectfully,

Lordevil

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LordEvil appeared in the chat for a hour and left because he had some things to do.

We had a short conversation with him. He agreed we should ally but we have not discussed anything more.

He agreed to CC the letter he has sent to PAL and I'm publishing it here now.

Because LordEvil is the only North American in their team and most probably the only one who will represented the team of Batrachos, some you guys could exchange some fast emails and appoint a meeting in the work days.

quote:
Dear Friends Pal,

I also think that it is time to tell you all you
need to know. I will try to make it simple.

First of all, untill we met you, we had a kind of
alliance with GWT. I said "kind of" because it is
especially a circumstance alliance. Indeed, it's not
like we have a choice, we were only 2 on our
continent. This continent is separated in the middle
by jungle and swamp which prevent any possibilities
of fast war. Moreover, a war against GWT at the
beginning would mean a complete isolation for us and
a delay in science research.

However, we were frustrated several times by GWT
behavior who often takes decision, especially in
wonder construction, unilaterally in disregard of
ours agreements. That's the reason why we can't
consider them as a reliable partner.

As for CDG, they have arrived for a few time. They
told us about their misfortune and scared us about
ur alliance. After a long debate, given the fact
that they have a great UU which would be useful in
an potential war against ur continent, we decided to
give them the Black Island (island where is Phoenix)
since they agreed to be our vassal.

GWT accpeted to give a hand to CDG since they give
us one or 2 tech..that's why u see a city from them.
As you would guess, we have sent a message to forbid
GWT to create any city in this island (which is BAT
territory if we refer to our agreements) since there
is no hope anymore for Elu. But as usual, GWT didn't
really listen to us.

You told us that the only way to negociate with you
is first of all the destruction of Elu. Skid and GD
hadn't really the choice to accept since they didn't
want to be responsible of tension between our both
nation and they thought that was not that a big
deal. Nevertheless, after a vote, the government has
rejected the destruction of Elu by our hand. To be
honnest, we'd rather lose with our honnor than to
win as mercenaries. We have accepted to welcome Elu
as refugees and we can't stab them, that's as simple
as that. However, they are warned. From now, we
won't do anything to prevent you to destroy
them..which is a bit different.

I hope that these explanations will help you to
understand our behviours lately. Actually, it was a
difficult period for us since there were a lot of
big decision to take. Skid, our defense minister,
knows several of your members and trust them and
this is also the main reason for us to trust your
team.

To answer to you question, I will say :

1) We can forbid CDG to unload in our territory and
if we can, we will give you the position of their
galley. I don't think we can go any further.

2) CDG were suppose to be our vassal which means
they are supposed to do all what we want in exchange
of the territory where we allowed them to settle.
There is no other deal than that. Of course we told
them that we had discussion with you. I told them
that we can't help them anymore for the security of
my population since you want their destruction.

3) We will begin the war as soon as we will have
knights.
Since GWT will have fast riders, we will obvioulsy
need help to destroy them. I think that we should be
ready to start serioulsy in something like 15 turns.
I suggest that we start in the south front while u
prepare ur army. At this moment, u might have
Astronomy and carry ur troop safely across the sea
to open a new front. I guess that a major chat
between us and Apo will be necessary to discuss
about ours potentials and to be more accurate in
ours estimations.

I hope that my explanations has dispeled your
worries.

Regards,

Lordevil

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I do not think it wise of PAL (or us) to attempt to force BAT to destroy CDG. Instead, we should take a more tactful approach. Such as this:

As we all know, this first game is merely an elimination game. Three of the 5 teams on this map will go onto the next round. This game ends once two teams are eliminated.

We believe that BAT, PAL, and Apolyton should be the teams to move onto the next round.

We have no grudge against CDG. We have always done well with them in other games. They are honorable players and good people, but this is a game where only a few can win and they did not do enough to earn that spot into the next round.

Please do not think us cruel or that we have a burning desire to destroy CDG. They did not "earn" destruction, but this is a game where teams MUST be eliminated, and it makes the most sense to finish them off, eliminate GWT, and then have the three of us move into the final round.

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quote:
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I do not think it wise of PAL (or us) to attempt to force BAT to destroy CDG. Instead, we should take a more tactful approach. Such as this:

As we all know, this first game is merely an elimination game. Three of the 5 teams on this map will go onto the next round. This game ends once two teams are eliminated.

We believe that BAT, PAL, and Apolyton should be the teams to move onto the next round.

We have no grudge against CDG. We have always done well with them in other games. They are honorable players and good people, but this is a game where only a few can win and they did not do enough to earn that spot into the next round.

Please do not think us cruel or that we have a burning desire to destroy CDG. They did not "earn" destruction, but this is a game where teams MUST be eliminated, and it makes the most sense to finish them off, eliminate GWT, and then have the three of us move into the final round.

--Togas


Very good approach did we ever send this?

How goes negotiations with BAT?

Whats PAL's take on this?

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AFAIK - no. We have sent nothing to BAT since the failed live chat some weeks ago.

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AFAIK - no. We have sent nothing to BAT since the failed live chat some weeks ago.


Well th new blood needs to get something out then

OCT_X?

Lord Nuclear?

Lets not waste time during the dealy, lets get this thing finalized with the PAL/Apoly Axis and BAT.

It will virtually assure our moving forward to the next game!

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Oct is the FAM, and it would show a better image if he sent it.

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Just give them the team address. If they need any more, give them mine, ormuzd, togas, nuke's, yours, santa clauses, the easter bunnies, the new pope, the white house and, oh ya, almost forgot, firaxis development team for civ4.

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They should know the team address. If, though, the above message (by Togas) is the one we want to send, I'll do so at once.

I have to apoligize for not wandering around the forums as often as I ought to recently. Between school, the ACT, and state-mandated standardized exams, I've been busy of late. Of course, nothing much is happening anyway...

Looking through some of this stuff, I wonder if we couldn't simply annouce our plans of alliance and invasion to both CDG and GWT? Since CDG has all but been eliminated, and since GWT wouldn't stand a chance against the three of us, is it possible they would be inclined to capitulate?

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OCT_X, you got the reply? Lord Nuke if OCT_X is pretty busy you may want to do it.



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They should know the team address. If, though, the above message (by Togas) is the one we want to send, I'll do so at once.

I have to apoligize for not wandering around the forums as often as I ought to recently. Between school, the ACT, and state-mandated standardized exams, I've been busy of late. Of course, nothing much is happening anyway...

Looking through some of this stuff, I wonder if we couldn't simply annouce our plans of alliance and invasion to both CDG and GWT? Since CDG has all but been eliminated, and since GWT wouldn't stand a chance against the three of us, is it possible they would be inclined to capitulate?


OK fine on the team adress, since it gets occasionally delayed and does not always forward I recommend you give them OCT_X's and Togas's email as well. maybe even Lord N's. If I continue to get emails Ill post them here as my time permits since Im technically still the "team Captain" for Apoly in the eyes of the UN. If we want to change that guys we can do that as well we just need someone who is going to monitir the UN forums and pass info, conduct polls for gamewide issues, etc.

I would NOT play our cards with GWT just yet.

1. Is our three way allaince ROCK solid?
2. Have we talked about the disclosure with our rock solid alliance?
3. CDG is STILL alive
4. GWT is far from dead and they have dam good group of players.
5. Dont get lured into the other games pleas of hurrying up. Sure we want this one done but we need to make sure we advance before its done. And out of the 5 remaining teams power graph wise we are still number 4.......................... We need to be carefull how we shake around a big stick.........

Thats just MHO

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PS if you guys want me to get a quick reply out post the email addy's here. I dont have access to my email address book at work and Im not going to be able to do this tonight to much family crap going on.

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message from BAT's Lord Evil via email:
quote:

Dear Friends,

We have noticed that u are building the Great Wall. We are wondering if u have a real intention to build it or if it is just a prebuild in order to construct another wonder.
The reason of my question is the fact that we are also building this wonder in order to avoid GWT to have their GA. If you are about to finish it soon, we can change our production right now. If not, we will ask Pal to delay the metallurgy to us in order to finish it.

Thank u to let us know asap.

Lordevil


I didn't think we were building the Great Wall. Perhaps this message is meant for PAL and we were CC'd?

--Togas

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it is being built in Apolyton. Don't ask me why, I don't have a clue...

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No, we were building it. It was GK idea and it was exactly to prevent GWT from building it

there is nothing more interesting to build there until we have the education

But maybe a cathedral will be ok too?

 
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