25-02-2005 19:45									#1
	Turn 121, 150 BC Get a bigger avatar today!

Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

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Pre-Turn Actions
Draco completes Settler, start marketplace
Notus completes library, start ? (not sure, however)


Military Orders

Swordsmen:
Road Kill Warriors - fortified on hills
Troilus - fortified in Stable of Heremes
Hector - fortified in Artemis
Hermes - fortified in Apolyton's Harbor

Horsemen:
Paris -
Bucephalus -

Hoplites:
Adonis -
Bellorophon - (fortified in Odessos)
Hopity - (fortified in Athena's Hunting Grounds)
Pig Sticker -
Ajax (fortified in Sidiros Lofos) -
Thanatos - (fortified in Helios)
Ixion - (fortified on the hills near Rhodes)
Agamemnon - (fortified in Eos)
Atlas - (fortified on the meeting mountain)

Navy:
AS Nerissa -
AS Valiant -
AS Kitchen Sink -
AS Hali -



Workers:
Roads r us - road (done in 4)
Faygo - mining (done in 4)
Woodchuck -
Sars -
Douglas Adams - road (done)
Fred & Barney - chop forest (done in 2)
De La Hoya - road (done)
Opressed Laborers -
Big John - 4-irrigate (done in 2)
Eudipus - road (done in 5)
Worker from Odessos - road

Goatse.cx - mining (done in 8)
Frostling -
Grim -
Bonehead -
Micaelis Rex -
Aesop - chop (done)
Rufus - chop (done)
CivRider Zheng - chop forest (done in 2)


Settlers:
Green -
Gaia's Rise (Gold) - move to the gold spot



Cities:
Apolyton - wf 2-4-8-10-11, (growth in 2), library (next turn)
Apolyton's harbor - wf 3-9-10-11, (growth in 6), marketplace (in 14)
Artemis - wf 1-4-7-16, (growth in 3), settler (in 3)
Athena's Hunting Grounds - wf 5-15, (growth in 4), worker (next turn)
Demeter - wf 3-4, (growth next turn), granary (in 26)
Draco - wf ?, (growth in 9), marketplace (in ?)
Eos - wf 4-6-15, (growth in 3), settler (in 13)
Erinyes - wf ?, (growth ?), library (in 3 turns)
Eurus - wf 8, (growth in 5), library (in 18)
Helios - wf 2-3-11, (growth in 4), marketplace (in 31)
Hyperion - wf 6-7-19, (growth in 14), settler (in 6)
Hypnos - wf 3-4-6-7-13, (growth in 5), aqueduct (in 3)
Naked Aphrodite - wf 2-3, (growth next turn), marketplace (in 17)
Notus - wf 3-9-19, (growth in 7), library (?)
Odessos - wf 2, (growth in 2), harbor (in 59)
Olympus - wf 1-2-6-7-?, (growth in ?), settler (in 7)
Poseidon's Harbor - wf 4-7-11-19-?, (growth next turn), library (in 4)
Sidiros Lofos - wf 5-8-13-14, (growth in 3), marketplace (14 turns)
Stable of Hermes - wf 8-14-16, (growth in 6), harbor (in 13 turns)


Diplomacy To Be Completed


Any Other Things To Be Done

	02-03-2005 22:39									#2
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

The save has arrived. I'm going to play it after 12 hours (if one of the consuls did not already play it). Everyone interested is invited. If someone needs a hour or two more to attend the live chat I'll wait

I'll be in Apolyton's chat as usual - in the channels #apolyton and #c3cisdg (the latter is password protected. The password is 'holydoughnut')

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	03-03-2005 03:37									#3
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Looked at the save - following are suggestions and comments:

We have 3 settlers (on their way), 3 more in production, and 8 more city sites, 2 of which are on islands. All is well.

Odessos should build a settler to settle the south part of the island. It has plenty of growth.

Artemus should build a market, then a wonder, post settler. Any wonder will do, it is just a filler for now.

Drop science down to 50%. That will double our gold intake to 26 per turn, and only increase science research from 6 to 7. The more settlers, markets, courthouses and libraries we purchase, we will be able to increase our tech rate. Honestly, we never figured to be doing better than 12 turn techs til we have quite a few universities in place, meaning that most of our cities have markets also.

Let cities grow to at least size 5 before builing any more worker. Sure, we need the workers bad, but we need to get the pop up in our cities also. Keep the ones that are currently in the queue, and use size of 4 for those cities with lots of floodplains and grainaries.

Chop forests. We have lots that need to come down, and they will speed up our markets and courthouses.

	03-03-2005 03:44									#4
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Oh, and check some of the workforces. Notus was apparent, in that you can gain an extra shield and gold. I suspect that we might be able to get 2-4 extras by just checking and making sure we are using the best tiles. Sure, it is a pain, but it adds up.

	03-03-2005 10:11									#5
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Well, the chat is at the worst possible time for me, so I won't be able to make it.

	03-03-2005 12:38									#6
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GK - thanks for the advice
I'm checking the cities every turn and half the time I'm losing is because of this micromanagement

I'm going to play the turn after half hour. Still noone in the chat

	03-03-2005 13:45									#7
	Support Apolyton

Pre-Turn Actions
Draco completes Settler, start marketplace
Notus completes library, start worker


Military Orders

Swordsmen:
Road Kill Warriors - fortified on hills
Troilus - fortified in Stable of Heremes
Hector - fortified in Artemis
Hermes - fortified in Apolyton's Harbor

Horsemen:
Paris - fortify on mountain
Bucephalus - skip

Hoplites:
Adonis - skip
Bellorophon - (fortified in Odessos)
Hopity - (fortified in Athena's Hunting Grounds)
Pig Sticker - 9-6-2
Ajax (fortified in Sidiros Lofos) -
Thanatos - (fortified in Helios)
Ixion - (fortified on the hills near Rhodes)
Agamemnon - (fortified in Eos)
Atlas - 6-6-fortify

Navy:
AS Nerissa - 4-8, spots PAL settler
AS Valiant - 3-2
AS Kitchen Sink - 8-6
AS Hali - 8-6-1



Workers:
Roads r us - road (done in 4)
Faygo - mining (done in 4)
Woodchuck - mine (done in 6)
Sars - 6-9-mine (done in 6)
Douglas Adams - road (done)
Fred & Barney - chop forest (done in 2)
De La Hoya - road (done)
Opressed Laborers - irrigate (done in 4)
Big John - 4-irrigate (done in 2)
Eudipus - road (done in 5)
Kir-Cho - road (done in 3)

Goatse.cx - mining (done in 8)
Frostling - 7
Grim - 7
Bonehead - 1-mine
Micaelis Rex - 1-mine
Aesop - chop (done)
Rufus - chop (done)
CivRider Zheng - chop forest (done in 2)


Settlers:
Green - 9-6-6
Gaia's Rise (Gold) - 9-6-2
Settler from Draco renamed to White - moved 7-8-8 (to Olympos)


Cities:
Apolyton - wf 1-4-8-10-11, (growth in 2), library (next turn)
Apolyton's harbor - wf 3-9-10-11, (growth in 6), marketplace (in 14)
Artemis - wf 1-4-7-13, (growth in 6), settler (in 2)
Athena's Hunting Grounds - wf 5-15, (growth in 4), worker (next turn)
Demeter - wf 3-4, (growth next turn), granary (in 26)
Draco - wf 3-7-8-17, (growth in 3), marketplace (in 25)
Eos - wf 4-6-15, (growth in 3), settler (in 13)
Erinyes - wf 13-16, (growth in 20), library (in 3)
Eurus - wf 8, (growth in 5), library (in 18)
Helios - wf 2-11-18, (growth in 4), marketplace (in 31)
Hyperion - wf 6-7-19, (growth in 14), settler (in 6)
Hypnos - wf 3-6-7-13-18, (growth in 5), aqueduct (in 3)
Naked Aphrodite - wf 2-3, (growth next turn), marketplace (in 17)
Notus - wf 3-9-19, (growth in 7), worker (in 5)
Odessos - wf 2, (growth in 2), harbor (in 59)
Olympus - wf 1-2-3-6-12, (growth in 4), settler (in 3)
Poseidon's Harbor - wf 1-3-7-19, (growth next turn), library (in 3)
Sidiros Lofos - wf 5-8-13-14, (growth in 3), marketplace (14 turns)
Stable of Hermes - wf 8-14-16, (growth in 6), harbor (in 13 turns)


Any Other Things To Be Done
Science set to 70% - Theology in 5 turns
Treasury 22 gold, -2gpt

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	03-03-2005 13:46									#8
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PAL

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	03-03-2005 13:46									#9
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CDG and their last turn of existence

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	03-03-2005 13:47									#10
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Domestic affairs

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	03-03-2005 13:48									#11
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Victory screen

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	03-03-2005 13:49									#12
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Intelligence and top cities

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	04-03-2005 17:33									#13
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

GNP and productivity, we are 3rd. That is OK.
Mnf Gds we are 4th. That is bad. Real bad.
2nd in lit. Being scientific, that sucks, but we don't have the pop like PAL does, so be it.