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Ramo is offline Ramo
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With shouts of "Syria out!," more than 25,000 flag-waving protesters massed outside Parliament today in a dramatic display of defiance that swept out Lebanon's pro-Syrian government two weeks after the assassination of a former prime minister.

Cheering broke out among the demonstrators in Martyrs' Square when they heard Prime Minister Omar Karami's announcement on loudspeakers that the government was stepping down. Throughout the day, protesters handed out red roses to soldiers and police.

Many in Lebanon accuse Syria and Karami's government of being behind former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri's Feb. 14 slaying and the death of 16 others in a huge bombing, pressing hard in the two weeks since his death for the government to resign and for Syria to withdraw its roughly 15,000 troops positioned in Lebanon.

"We want no other army in Lebanon except the Lebanese army!" protesters chanted, climbing the martyrs' statue and praying before candles at Hariri's flower-covered grave, which lies at the piazza's edge.

Karami's Cabinet will continue as a caretaker government. The next step is for the president to appoint a prime minister after consulting with parliament members. The new prime minister consults parliamentary blocs to form a Cabinet that must withstand a parliamentary vote of confidence.

Karami replaced the billionaire Hariri, credited with playing a key role in rebuilding Lebanon after its devastating 1975-1990 civil war.

"Today the government fell. Tomorrow, it's the one huddled in Anjar," opposition leader Elias Atallah told the crowd to cheers, referring to the Syrian intelligence chief based in the eastern Lebanese town of Anjar. He said the opposition will continue its actions until all demands are met.

The protesters went further, immediately shouting for the resignation of pro-Syrian President Emile Lahoud.

"Lahoud, your turn is coming!" they said.

Others in the sea of red, white and green flags chanted, "Syria Out!" and "Freedom, sovereignty, independence!"

The protest continued after nightfall, complete with images broadcast on a large video screen, a scene that recalled anti-government protests in Ukraine late last year. Banners proclaimed in English: "United We Stand, Divided We Fall."

Lahoud's six-year term was renewed in September by Parliament, under apparent Syrian pressure to change the constitution, which banned further terms. A U.N. resolution demanded Lebanon hold presidential elections, Syrian troops pull out of Lebanon and Syria stop interfering in Lebanese affairs.

"The battle is not over. It is just beginning. We want to know who killed Prime Minister Hariri," opposition legislator Faris Saeed said, addressing the crowd.

The crowd, some flashing "V for victory" signs, responded loudly and in unison: "Syria! Syria!"

Syrian President Bashar Assad said in remarks published today that a Syrian troop withdrawal depended on achieving peace in the Middle East.

"Under a technical point of view, the withdrawal can happen by the end of the year," Assad told the Italian newspaper La Repubblica. "But under a strategic point of view, it will only happen if we obtain serious guarantees. In one word: peace."

U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State David Satterfield met Lebanese Foreign Minister Mahmoud Hammoud today to reiterate Washington's demand for a withdrawal of Syrian forces, which came to Lebanon ostensibly as peacekeepers during the civil war.

Interior Minister Suleiman Franjieh had banned all protests today on grounds of "supreme national interests." The security forces cordoned off Martyr's Square early in the morning, but they made no serious effort to disperse the demonstrators, many of whom had slept in the square.

Some soldiers and police even sympathized with the protesters and were seen advising newcomers on how to evade the cordon.


During the parliament session, legislators stopped their debate and stood for a moment of silence at 12:55 p.m., the exact time Hariri died two weeks earlier. Hariri's sister, legislator Bahiya Hariri, addressed the parliament in black and called on the government to resign.

"All the Lebanese want to know their enemy, the enemy of Lebanon who killed the martyr Rafik Hariri, those who took the decision, planned and executed it, those who ignored and prevented the truth from coming out," Bahiya Hariri said, holding back tears.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...-home-headlines

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TAKE THAT, SYRIA!

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TAKE THAT, SYRIA!


Yep, I think Syria has lost Lebanon.

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so far an amzingly peaceful revolution. Hope it stays that way. Lahoud is still in office. Crowds are calling for withdrawl not only of Syrian troops, but of Syrian intell. Also Christians and muslims (at least Sunnis and Druze) seem to be united.

Interesting times.

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About time...Syria has muscled around in those parts for too many years.

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What about Hezbollah?

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I hope the people of Lebanon can conclude this business without outside interference.

Syria hit out in the only way it can, and its been given a bloody nose ... not by any state, but the people of Lebanon .. well done.

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What about Hezbollah?


Good question - the other day Jumblatt was calling on them to support the opposition. Do they want to remain a player in post-Syrian Lebanese politics?

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I don't think Hezbollah needs Syria. It has a comfortable base of support among the poor Shia.

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to this news.

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Another day, another victory for Bush.

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May he forever shine his light upon us and his loyal servant, the Lord God Putin.

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Another day, another victory for Bush.




yeah right

The Syrians did it to themselves when they assassinated the Lebanese former prime minister.

Bush had absolutley NOTHING to do with it.

I was waiting for someone on his jack strap to take credit for it though.

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Damn, Putin's pretty intelligent by Russian standards!

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Bush had absolutley NOTHING to do with it.




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The militant group Hezbollah, largely on the fence since anti-Syrian protests erupted in Lebanon last month, switched gears Sunday and threw its weight behind Syria and its allies — calling for massive rallies in Beirut to show loyalty to Damascus.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...ezbollah_factor

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yeah right

The Syrians did it to themselves when they assassinated the Lebanese former prime minister.

Bush had absolutley NOTHING to do with it.

I was waiting for someone on his jack strap to take credit for it though.


Sure.

But Bush is the one who has placed the most pressure on the Syrians, and caused other allies to do the same. The Lebanese people were the ones to praise for forcing their syrian puppet gov't to resign.

This is a victory for Bush policy nonetheless in the middle east.

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Looks like Hezbollah might be in for some trouble...

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The Lord Bush, creator of all that is and all that will ever be


Bush

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But Bush is the one who has placed the most pressure on the Syrians, and caused other allies to do the same.


What allies?

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What allies?


Saudi Arabia told Syria to withdraw, Egypt did... Israel did... I believe Russia did...

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What allies?
France.

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*cough* http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/28/putin.cba.tm/ *cough*
Why are you pointing out that teh Putin is stupid?

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France

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Looks like Hezbollah has staged a counterprotest (on behalf of the Syrian occupation). Estimates go from hundreds of thousands (out of a population of ~4 million) to holy ****, that's a huge protest.

From BBC:


I've been trying to find out how many seats in the Lebanese Parliament Hezbollah have. I could only determine that they are the largest single party. Anyone happen to know?

It'd also be interesting to see whether the Christains will stay over-represented. In the Constitution, they're mandated to having 50% of Parliament (despite being 20-25% of the population). If Lebanon is democratized, the Hezbollah would be big winners since the Shia are the largest plurality in the country (~40%).

Come to think of it, the situation is a lot like Iraq. In both cases, the Shia, the largest sectarian group, are backing an occupying power that the former/current rulers are strongly opposed to. Then you have fascist influences among both Saddam's Ba'ath and the Maronites' Phalange.

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Great **** will start here soon : (

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