01-03-2005 18:56									#1
	Evaluating posters Put an end to popups!

I'd like to know how my posts are seen by others at times, to make them better and so on.

I just wondered how hard it would be to get somewhere in my preferences a place where people can "vote" (and change their vote) on a 0-10 scale or something. As long as I can know what the average is, I could then get an idea... now maybe it's not useful? Am I the only one who would appreciate it?

I know some boards where the most appreicated writers get some stars and different graphics corresponding to how their posts are considered (such as www.fool.com forums)

Useful only to me? Too much trouble?

	01-03-2005 20:21									#2
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the current version of our forum software has a thread-evalution feature which has been declared by the general population as a un-needed one...

	01-03-2005 22:30									#3
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Quality vote? Fun, but not absolutely needed I think.

	01-03-2005 23:05									#4
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I'd only be interested if we could vote for the poster, rather than the post.

	01-03-2005 23:18									#5
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We already have a hall of fame here Diss.

	01-03-2005 23:25									#6
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Yeah, DC does a good work already. No power to the masses!

	01-03-2005 23:49									#7
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG the current version of our forum software has a thread-evalution feature which has been declared by the general population as a un-needed one...

Thread evaluation on other sites that I've seen does not work that well.

	02-03-2005 00:03									#8
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This would erode the integrity and quality of the posts. Poly members would respond more and more to the pressure of the public, press, and publicity to produce entertaining posts at the expensive of intellectualism and critical thinking. Complex reasoning, provoking dialogue, and thoughtful analysis would suffer resulting in a trend of superficial postings of a comedic nature with dubious value.

Additionally, the increase use of smilies and graphics would strain the infrastructure of the Apolyton systems. Worse of all, the "popularity bottom line" would drive people to end their posts with a plea for acceptance which would cross the line of good taste. This increased competition for attention would eventually overtake all bounds of common sense and proper judgement cannibalizing all available attention spans and technical bandwidth.

In closing, how did you like my post? I hope a lot. Please take a moment to register your opinion. Thank you.

	02-03-2005 00:20									#9
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I like post evaluation at Slashdot, but I do not think that it is suitable for Apolyton.

	02-03-2005 02:46									#10
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Personally, I could care less how many stars a thread gets, let alone a poster or a post

	02-03-2005 02:56									#11
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I wonder how many people are going to actually give this thread ratings?

	02-03-2005 03:05									#12
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I rate it a

	02-03-2005 03:26									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner [b] to produce entertaining posts at the expensive of intellectualism and critical thinking. Complex reasoning, provoking dialogue, and thoughtful analysis would suffer resulting in a trend of superficial postings of a comedic nature with dubious value.

Some of us have mastered the art such that the concept of trade-off between those qualities is defunct. All those qualities are contained in the quasi-state exemplified by the art.

Deep meaningful posts with superficiality sheen, complex reasoning that provokes dubious value comments, and serious critiques that are comedic beyond compare are par for the course for some people.

Now, anyone got a ladder? I need to get back up my tower.

	02-03-2005 03:30									#14
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NOT thread ratings; POSTER rating! I really like what DrSpike writes? I give him a 9/10! MarkG is a troll? He gets a 3/10!

And it's not somethign that has to be public, but simply something for oneself. Now, I'm not saying that it is essential or that everyone would use it. I simply know I'd like to get an idea of if what I bring fits, and wonder if it would be worth it. I got the idea by seeing www.fool.com and of course myself wondering how I could do better for the same cost.

	02-03-2005 03:35									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna I really like what DrSpike writes? I give him a 9/10! MarkG is a troll? He gets a 3/10!

I like your examples. Burlesque is great.

	02-03-2005 04:38									#16
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* DrSpike rates Dauphin at -2.

	02-03-2005 05:52									#17
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You are too kind. I could never rate him that highly.

Trifna: I realise you mean rating posters and not threads. My point was that people only rate threads if they are reminded to. I can imagine that people would only rate posters under similar conditions, or if they happen to be losing an arguement with someone.

	02-03-2005 06:10									#18
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They have a poster rating kind of thing at gamedev.net. Basically, everybody starts out with the rating of 1000. Then, everybody can rate everybody else, but only once. So if I rate DrSpike once, I can't rate him again. (I don't remember if I can change my rating of him though.) Also, when you rate someone, you essentially have a choice of very bad, bad, neutral, good, very good. The specific number of points that adds or subtracts from the person's rating depends on the ratio of the ratings of the rater and the rated. Basically, if I am rating 2000 and I rate someone who is at 1000, that will affect them much more than if I were a rating 200.

The system works really well at gamedev, but I don't know that it would apply here as well. At gamedev, you have the incentive to rate people, because people mostly ask for help, or post help for others. So it's natural to rate the helpfullness. I see 'Poly as more of a socialization place, than a place to seek help. Sure, people seek help in Civ3 forums and what not, but really, it's more about being friends with people, IMO. So I don't know that the same system would work too well here.

	02-03-2005 07:33									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Trip We already have a hall of fame here Diss.

?

I may not be the most intelligent poster. But I would hope a site like this wouldn't discriminate against stupid posters such as myself.

I know there is no free speech here, but I like to think not all of my posts are asinine. Most are for entertainment purposes only. It gets boring reading capitalism/communism threads all the time.

	02-03-2005 07:38									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna NOT thread ratings; POSTER rating! I really like what DrSpike writes? I give him a 9/10! MarkG is a troll? He gets a 3/10! And it's not somethign that has to be public, but simply something for oneself. Now, I'm not saying that it is essential or that everyone would use it. I simply know I'd like to get an idea of if what I bring fits, and wonder if it would be worth it. I got the idea by seeing www.fool.com and of course myself wondering how I could do better for the same cost.

I don't want to know mine. I know a lot of people don't like me. It would depress me to see all my posts rated as a 1. I'd kill myself.

and I completely forgot we had a thread rating system!! Shows how much I use it.

	02-03-2005 08:31									#21
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG the current version of our forum software has a thread-evalution feature which has been declared by the general population as a un-needed one...

Since when is Apolyton a democracy where you care?

	02-03-2005 11:14									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I don't want to know mine. I know a lot of people don't like me. It would depress me to see all my posts rated as a 1. I'd kill myself.

I'd give you a pity 10.

	02-03-2005 12:02									#23
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quote: Originally posted by joncha I'd give you a pity 10.

thank you, you have my vote for the next hall of fame . My votes can be bought easily.

	02-03-2005 12:48									#24
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Ted Striker = 100

Britney = 95

Turkish chicks = 1000


pwn3d

	02-03-2005 20:04									#25
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Dissident, I never said you were forced to look at it
It's a private thing, not a public one. So no posting contests. But if no one sees it as interesting for himself... well it may not be worth the effort obviously.

I know I'm still interested in knowing how good/bad my posts are and do something from there.

	02-03-2005 20:12									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna I know I'm still interested in knowing how good/bad my posts are and do something from there.

...and a post rating system isn't going to answer that question for you... you are under the assumption that people would be serious and honest about it... trust me... they wouldn't based on past experience around here with thread ratings

	02-03-2005 21:05									#27
	Tired of ads?

Oh... that's pretty interesting AND annoying...
I'll trust you

	02-03-2005 21:18									#28
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You better do, or Mingapulco will soon be in the horizon...

	03-03-2005 00:01									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns You are too kind. I could never rate him that highly.

I was in a generous mood.

	03-03-2005 00:04									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner This would erode the integrity and quality of the posts. Poly members would respond more and more to the pressure of the public, press, and publicity to produce entertaining posts at the expensive of intellectualism and critical thinking. Complex reasoning, provoking dialogue, and thoughtful analysis would suffer resulting in a trend of superficial postings of a comedic nature with dubious value. Additionally, the increase use of smilies and graphics would strain the infrastructure of the Apolyton systems. Worse of all, the "popularity bottom line" would drive people to end their posts with a plea for acceptance which would cross the line of good taste. This increased competition for attention would eventually overtake all bounds of common sense and proper judgement cannibalizing all available attention spans and technical bandwidth. In closing, how did you like my post? I hope a lot. Please take a moment to register your opinion. Thank you.

Bleh, way too long.
Get to the point