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According to a new FCC estimate obtained by Mediaweek, nearly all indecency complaints in 2003—99.8 percent—were filed by the Parents Television Council, an activist group.

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Through early October, 99.9 percent of indecency complaints—aside from those concerning the Janet Jackson “wardrobe malfunction” during the Super Bowl halftime show broadcast on CBS— were brought by the PTC, according to the FCC analysis dated Oct. 1. (The agency last week estimated it had received 1,068,767 complaints about broadcast indecency so far this year; the Super Bowl broadcast accounted for over 540,000, according to commissioners’ statements.)

The prominent role played by the PTC has raised concerns among critics of the FCC’s crackdown on indecency. "It means that really a tiny minority with a very focused political agenda is trying to censor American television and radio," said Jonathan Rintels, president and executive director of the Center for Creative Voices in Media, an artists’ advocacy group.
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I heard this bit of news on the radio today and had to post it here. This one dopey parents group is trying to censor our TV. As mentioned in the snippet, one tiny minority with a very focused political agenda is trying to censor TV and radio.

This is absurd.

The FCC recently ruled that Saving Private Ryan was not indecent.

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FCC: 'Private Ryan,' Sitcoms Not Indecent
February 28, 2005
By Todd Shields

WASHINGTON, D.C. Federal regulators on Monday decided the Veterans' Day broadcast of the movie Saving Private Ryan on ABC did not violate decency standards, despite the liberal use of the F-word and other expletives by the World War II soldiers depicted in the film.

The Federal Communications Commission also rejected complaints about episodes of NBC's Will and Grace and Fox's Arrested Development.

In considering Private Ryan, the agency denied complaints filed by the American Family Association, a group based in Tupelo, Miss., that is an active critic of broadcasts it feels violate decency standards.

More than 60 of ABC's 225 affiliates declined to air the movie on Nov. 11. They said they feared FCC sanctions, even though the movie had appeared on broadcast TV in 2001 and 2002 without any penalty by regulators. Since those airings, the FCC has ruled that the singer Bono's use of the F-word during an awards show violated indecency regulations.

On Monday, regulators said they had considered context in reaching their decision.

"This film is a critically acclaimed artwork that tells a gritty story," said FCC Chairman Michael Powell. "The horror of war and the enormous personal sacrifice it draws on cannot be painted in airy pastels."

Powell said ABC and its affiliates had provided "full and wide disclosure" of the broadcast's possibly controversial content.
link: http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/search/...t_id=1000818836

Discuss.

Oh and here the link for that group of puritanical nutbags trying to censor our TV. http://www.parentstv.org/

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That seems to be pretty effective. They flood the TV stations with outrage, and the TV stations believe that it doesn't come from a fringe group, so they take steps to avoid offending the "general public".

I think it was Mill who argued that a good democracy not only curbed the power of the State, but also the power of society (that pushes for conformism). Unfortunately, it seems the Americans are too obsessed with the State to understand that it is only one half of the threat

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BTW, if you wish to email the Parents Television Council, you can contact their editor at editor@parentstv.org

please, no profanity laced emails... if you disagree with their policies, just write a letter saying so...

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"American Family Association"

Are these the other 0.2%?

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Gee, a group who concern is indecency on televison make most of the complaints about indecency on televison. That would never have occured to me.

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BTW, I've seen some "outrageous" material at their site, and I must say I'm surprised (the teen orgy bit). It's strange that your TV allows itself to broadcast a material that could easily be considered as shocking by many parents (because it's not exactly tame indeed), while completely barring itself from showing nude people.

I mean, it was an orgy, but everybody had his undies!

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Gee, a group who concern is indecency on televison make most of the complaints about indecency on televison. That would never have occured to me.


Well, it shouldn't.

After all, the FCC is there to take the complaints of 230 million people, so the idea that just a few are responsible for almost all shows that their crusade is not particularly popular, so the immense impact they seem to have had in the last year is well outside their actual popular support.

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I'm just glad nobody objected to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Models special on Spike TV.

Body painting

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just a few
I hear they have some tens of thousands of members, most of whom were somewhat active on saids issues bfore they joined. Again what is suprsing that an that the members of an organization comprizing most of the the activist on an issue make most of the noise on an issue. Is the amount of human rights speech generated by Amnesty Intenational suprising, or the amount of civil rights speech by the ACLU suprising. That what such rganizations are ****ing for. This one happens to comprise a dominating percentage of the activist on a particular issue, there are very many others outside them that care enough to file complaints (and damn good thing, too, that there are not many more!)

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The thing that I don't understand is why TV companies are so ****ing cowards.
Too much focused on money I guess.

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This is why our democracy is broken, it's a pluralist Hell.

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I hear they have some tens of thousands of members, most of whom were somewhat active on saids issues bfore they joined.


If they were so active, then why were they so silent before they joined this group? These people do not seem to have been making many complaints before this group came into existance. I mean, all it takes is picking up the phone, and yet complaints did not go up 50%, or 100%, but grew by thousands of percents.

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Again what is suprsing that an that the members of an organization comprizing most of the the activist on an issue make most of the noise on an issue. Is the amount of human rights speech generated by Amnesty Intenational suprising, or the amount of civil rights speech by the ACLU suprising. That what such rganizations are ****ing for. This one happens to comprise a dominating percentage of the activist on a particular issue, there are very many others outside them that care enough to file complaints (and damn good thing, too, that there are not many more!)


There are hundreds of human rights, or civil rights, or animal rights, or abortion rights, or anti abortion groups, and they have existed for decades. There is ONE group on this issue, and its brand new, and it has found a way to use the system to expand their possible impact well beyond their numbers.

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I looked at their "TOP 10 BEST SHOWS FOR YOUR FAMILY"

Number 8 was "American Idol". That's laughable. First, it is often mean-spirited. Second, they're ****ing hypocrits - on the page prior they had an advertisment saying that "MTV Distorts One Child at a Time" and shows a plain girl in front of a mirror that gives her large breasts and a curvacious body.

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you guys are going at this the wrong way. Stop attacking the small christian group.

Instead, we should form a group that's for more profanity and sex on television. We need to make mass complaints about the lack of profanity and sex on tv. I'll start off, I'll call the FCC right now.

Now if everyone on Apolyton and their DL's called the FCC, we might get somewhere.

What should we call our group?

Demand to see more titties and F-words on TV!!!!

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Instead, we should form a group that's for more profanity and sex on television


Yep. Count me in. We need genuine reality television.

I'd watch TV if there were more boobs. I bet it would be a ratings boost. Let all the lesbo moaners go watch PBS.

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I've seen an episode of Without a trace featuring teen orgies. Twice a week, teens would gather and have lots of fun with lots of people. Of course, TV logic dictates that if you're having too much fun, something bad will happen. I can understand how parents wouldn't want their kids watching this stuff, it could give them some ideas. For my part, I envied those bastards...

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what is this teen orgies I"ve been hearing about? And why am I not watching it?

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Puritans will always be with us. They are mentally ill and unable to deal with their own sexuality, so they try to foist their neuroses on the rest of us.

The amount of violence on TV that passes by without a murmur is worse.

It's OK to show a person shooting another person, but appalling to show a person giving another an orgasm.

What is wrong with us?

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to parent's TV. Stop trying to dictate what we watch.

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What is wrong with us?


We'd rather put a bullet into a chick instead of our dicks?

edit: damn typos, although there's still a double meaning, but that's okay.

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The problem isn't this advocacy group, the problem is Michael Powell has too much manpower in the decency department of the FCC. They should shift some of that manpower over to the SEC and FTC were it's actually needed.

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what is this teen orgies I"ve been hearing about? And why am I not watching it?


The real question is: why I'm not doing it?

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We'd rather put a pullet into a chick instead of our dicks?


You are such a ****ing pervert!!!!

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From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Pullet \Pul"let\, n. [OE. polete, OF. polete, F. poulette, dim.
of poule a hen, fr. L. pullus a young animal, a young fowl.
See Foal, and cf. Poult, Poultry, Pool stake.]
A young hen, or female of the domestic fowl.

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reminds me of a South Park episode...

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Instead, we should form a group that's for more ........ sex on television.

Damn straight, thoses premium channels are too stingy with the sex. We want free tv sex.. More F**k for the Buck! is our slogan.

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What should be the name of our group?

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There are hundreds of human rights, or civil rights, or animal rights, or abortion rights, or anti abortion groups, and they have existed for decades. There is ONE group on this issue, and its brand new, and it has found a way to use the system to expand their possible impact well beyond their numbers.
So, you real complaint is how much better oganized and effective they are than any group for one of you pet issues.
Effective advocacy is just fine, but only for your side of any issue. What a god-damned hypocrit.

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Call it "The Ming Advocacy Council".





................. I'm outta here.

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So, you real complaint is how much better oganized and effective they are than any group for one of you pet issues.
Effective advocacy is just fine, but only for your side of any issue. What a god-damned hypocrit.


The slight flaw in your logic is the fact that this particular group does not speak for the people they claim to represent. According to this group, millions of Americans are utterly shocked and horrified by what they see on TV, and are spontaneously complaining to the FCC in order to save their children from unspeakable harm. This is a gross misrepresentation. There are people who don't approve of the state of TV. But these people are a very small minority. Let's face it, the reason that there is sex and profanity on TV is because that is what people want to see. These are not left-wing organizations trying to foist sex onto the minds of children to turn them gay and make them fall in line behind Clinton/Saddam. This is Fox.
Basically, a small minority of Christian fundamentalists believe that the past election is a mandate to make the country conform to their cultural standards, and it wasn't. At this point, I'll refer you to the latest in Frank Rich's columns on this: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/27/arts/27RICH.html?.

Yet, and it has been mentioned before, why is the assault against sex and profanity in particular. Tell me how watching someone die is more damaging, and is more "indecent," than watching someone have sex. Kids don't know what sex is, and if they did, it wouldn't matter either way to them. Moreover, I'm sure that almost everyone has seen their parents naked at some point or another, so seeing Janet Jackson's boob should not shock their world. I can't say I am astounded by the gross inconsistencies of the religious right, because they are so frequent, but the fact that they get away with it, is disturbing. These people are scary.

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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Admiral
a small minority of Christian fundamentalists/QUOTE]
And feminazis.

 
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