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Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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WTH - Decency Restriction to be Impose on Cable and Sats? Suffering from ads?

This wouldn't hold up, at least one would hope.


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Senator: Decency Rules Should Apply to Pay TV, Radio


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens said on Tuesday he would push for applying broadcast decency standards to cable television and subscription satellite TV and radio.

"Cable is a much greater violator in the indecency area," the Alaska Republican told the National Association of Broadcasters, which represents most local television and radio affiliates. "I think we have the same power to deal with cable as over-the-air" broadcasters.

"There has to be some standard of decency," he said. But he also cautioned that "No one wants censorship."

Stevens told reporters afterward that he would push legislation to apply the standards to cable TV and satellite radio and television. It could become part of a pending bill to boost fines on broadcasters who violate indecency restrictions or of an effort to overhaul U.S. communications laws.

If Stevens is successful, it could pose new problems for raunchy radio host Howard Stern, who has said he was forced to leave broadcast radio for satellite radio to avoid decency limits -- and Federal Communications Commission fines.

So far the restrictions have not applied to subscription services offered by companies like cable TV operators Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Inc. or XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. and Sirius Satellite Radio Inc., which recently signed Stern.

Last year the Senate Commerce Committee narrowly defeated an amendment to a bill boosting fines for indecency that would have extended such limits to cable and satellite services.

Sen. George Allen, a Commerce Committee member and Virginia Republican, told reporters he would be "hesitant to expand it to those" services.

While lawmakers and some parents groups are anxious to wipe the airwaves clean of indecency after singer Janet Jackson bared her breast last year during the Super Bowl halftime show, President Bush has said parents are the first line of defense and can just "turn it off."

Federal regulations bar broadcast television and radio stations from airing obscene material and restrict indecent material, such as sexually explicit discussions or profanity, to late-night hours when children are less likely to be watching or listening.

Stevens said he disagreed "violently" with assertions by the cable industry that Congress does not have the authority to impose limits on its content.

"If that's the issue they want to take on, we'll take it on and let the Supreme Court decide," he said.

A spokesman for the National Cable & Telecommunications Association, which represents cable operators, was not immediately available for comment.

The U.S. House of Representatives has approved legislation to raise fines to $500,000 from $32,500 on television and radio broadcasters that violate indecency limits. The Senate has legislation pending to increase fines as well.

But neither bill has provisions that would extend indecency restrictions to cable and satellite services. So far the White House has expressed support for the House bill, and made no public pronouncement about the Senate measure.



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See other thread for righetous indignation over the matter.

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See other thread for righetous indignation over the matter.


This is an irrelevant statement if you don't post a link...

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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If you mean the 99.8% complaint thread, this is new news.

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This wouldn't hold up, at least one would hope.

One thread, complain about "legislation from the bench," here...

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Funny, I still don't see a link... though I do know where the thread in question is.

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Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens said on Tuesday he would push for applying broadcast decency standards to cable television and subscription satellite TV and radio.


One of the princes of pork barrel politics, a real scumbag.
I suspect this is to extort money from the cable/sat companies...

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"There has to be some standard of decency," he said. But he also cautioned that "No one wants censorship."


Yeah, its never "we want to censor" all the while they speak of how we need censorship.

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"Cable is a much greater violator in the indecency area,"


Dont watch.

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President Bush has said parents are the first line of defense and can just "turn it off."


True for broadcast media, but if he sticks to his guns.

This is pay for TV, that supposedly means its private and contractual. The argument that "the people" - the politicians - own the public airwaves doesn't hold water here.

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The government does have some control over cable/sat content if they wanted to exercise it (I don't think add'l laws would be needed at least for satellite), but I think more controls would cross the line of what is generally thought to be reasonable, given the fact that you buy in to the smut in progressive stages.

I've always wondered why local governments haven't cracked down on the smut in their franchise agreements with the cablecos.

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Berz is correct in that govenremtn oversight of public airwaves are the rationale for applying decency standard for public TV & radio. The thought process was licensing of those airwaves required compliance with governemnt decency. Licensing was historically necessary to prevent predatory use of frequencies. (those with the biggest towers could drown out the little guys). As part and parcel of the licensing arrangement came with it the necessity to comply with government standards (including decency of content).

Since sats and cable are not beholden to the government for these licensing arrangements, they should not be bound by standards to their content. It should be stricken down immediately by the courts once passed.

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come on guys, it's time to overthrow the U.S. goverment. serious.

Who's with me?

give me titties on tv or give me death.

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Ted Stevens really is a piece of ****. I'm not even talking about his claims of indecency in entertainment I'm talking about his abuse of US tax payers with his massive pork barreling politics. Why can't we have decency limits for politicians?

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One thread, complain about "legislation from the bench," here...


If by legislation from the bench you mean actually interpreting constitutionality of legislation then yes this would actually be finally a proper exercise of judical review.

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It should be stricken down immediately by the courts once passed.


Why? It's interstate commerce, is it not? If its defined as obscenity is banned, then you have problems because the First Amendment has been said not to cover obscene material.

It'll probably be legal (as long as they don't overreach, but that's a BIIIG if), but very, very, very bad policy.

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I just hope they don't try to regulate HBO. I'd have to do something then.

I can care less about the crappy channels like spike TV.

It might be interesting if they go after comedy central. They get away with alot. I admit I was shocked at how much South Park got away with.

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Ted Stevens really is a piece of ****.


Ain't he though? He's the GOP's Robert Byrd

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It should be stricken down immediately by the courts once passed.


Why? It's interstate commerce, is it not? If its defined as obscenity is banned, then you have problems because the First Amendment has been said not to cover obscene material.

It'll probably be legal (as long as they don't overreach, but that's a BIIIG if), but very, very, very bad policy.


You and I both know the definition of obscene is iffy at best. It'll never hold.

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Since sats and cable are not beholden to the government for these licensing arrangements


Sats are beholden to the government for licensing. There's a whole sat branch at the FCC for sats. They utilize public airwaves to deliver content.

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You and I both know the definition of obscene is iffy at best. It'll never hold.


Tell that to the Supreme Court which has upheld obscenity laws in its history.

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**** the supreme court, then.

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**** the supreme court, then.


Except that they interpret the law, boyo .

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"Cable is a much greater violator in the indecency area,"


Don't you... uhm... need something to violate before you are accused of violating? As long as laws aren't being broken, there's no violation.

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Who cares, by the time something like this would be enacted, we'd be getting video programming over broadband internet anyway.

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Tell that to the Supreme Court which has upheld obscenity laws in its history.


and has struck down similarly things such as COPA.

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What a jerk

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Boo!

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But but but....if they make HBO clean and safe, we'll no longer have a ready source of witty, modern dramas to show on friday night on public TV.

Special relationship my arse!

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Special relationship my arse!


Dare I ask, 'With what?'

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Who cares, by the time something like this would be enacted, we'd be getting video programming over broadband internet anyway.


And what media does the internet use

Cables of course - what do you think next target will be ?

 
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