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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:27
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I hope this trial will not be a farce like the last one of this kind.
Some monthes ago, the infamous Outreau trial ended. It was pretty much the same: a community that was alledgedly happily whoring and raping their kids. Most alledged pedophiles pleaded innocent. They were kept in jail for one to two years for them to admit their "obvious" guilt. All of them suffered the delicate treatment that wardens and prisoners agree to inflict on child molesters. One of them committed suicide. One woman that pleaded guilty, however, was liberated from jail.
Turns out it was wrong. The psychologist who interviewed the children was partial, and she told it was a rock-solid case, when it wasn't. Oopies  :scratch-head: Not that she was the only one at fault, mind you. In France, everytime some sinister stroy of this kind happens, there's a hysteria against whomever seems to be the culprit. If the psychologist's bias had such dire consequences, that's because all of France (and in this particular case, all of the judicial system) was more than eager to believe her.
So, we end up with several innocent people horribly tortured for one to two years. We end up with one suicide. We end up with all those still-alive people completely broken, hated by their families, by their former friends, completely pariah in their careers. After having suffered physical pain, they are now suffering from stigma.
The psychologist made a nice scapegoat for what little outrage there was about that. The news were covered, but it's not like many people wanted to see heads roll for that. The judge who ordered all that crap (in France, we have judges that inquire cases temselves, they don't have the sole roles of arbitrators) was still in place. He didn't made one apology to the victims of his Kafkaesque decisions: he was following the judicial process  
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:27
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I just scanned the French newspapers about this. I began with the commie newspaper I'm suscribed to, and I was pleasantly surprised, believing that there was an actual outrage over the Outreau trials from 9 mothes ago, and that steps would be taken to avoid both judicial mishaps and mass hysteria. Well, the first one is true (the inquirers have carefully attempted to have more proof than the denunciations of children and of a single loony adult). But the second...
On the other newspapers I scanned, a strong emphasis was put on the monstrous acts perpetrated, and the journalists didn't use the word "allegedly" at all. Guilty until proven innocent I guess 
Besides, when I saw that the full names weren't revealed, I was glad, because I believed it was to protect the anonymity of the accused. How wrong I was: the only reason why the full names aren't published is because doing so would reveal the identity of the children. If it wasn't for that, there would be a full-speed villification of the accused already
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Bosh
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Taehan Mingook
Jan 1970
time: 00:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Spiffor
I just scanned the French newspapers about this. I began with the commie newspaper I'm suscribed to, and I was pleasantly surprised, believing that there was an actual outrage over the Outreau trials from 9 mothes ago, and that steps would be taken to avoid both judicial mishaps and mass hysteria. Well, the first one is true (the inquirers have carefully attempted to have more proof than the denunciations of children and of a single loony adult). But the second...
On the other newspapers I scanned, a strong emphasis was put on the monstrous acts perpetrated, and the journalists didn't use the word "allegedly" at all. Guilty until proven innocent I guess
Besides, when I saw that the full names weren't revealed, I was glad, because I believed it was to protect the anonymity of the accused. How wrong I was: the only reason why the full names aren't published is because doing so would reveal the identity of the children. If it wasn't for that, there would be a full-speed villification of the accused already |
Considering that many of the accused have already admitted to rape and child prostitution I'm not shedding any tears for the "villified."
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03-03-2005 21:14
) and publicly villified. The tradition of public villifying in that time's China was particularily nice, as the red guard would demand to publicly confess how evil you are (and you are much more evil than you think, a real monster without any redeeming quality) for the crowd to hate you. In general, you weren't seen afterwards.
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