04-03-2005 21:08									#1
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Was just watching Rage (Australian alternative music show)... and pretty much every song was some attempt to copy new wave/70's rock/punk/synth pop etc...
Is rock becoming an orthodoxy? Simply a repository of tried genres from which bands can pick and choose and customize their sound? And what is it with the flaming lips and their stupid fluffy bunny rabbits and spongebob crap'd-his-pants? Why does electric six's cover of Radio ga ga seem more like an embarassing tribute than what it should be- a tacky, kitsch spoof? Why does a black and white glitchy video clip of a new wave rehash seem eerily contemporary?
Has culture exhausted all options and must now rummage through the bargain bin of history? Was Baudrillard right about the increasing preoccupation with nostalgia and with producing signs of origin that accompanies a break with reality?
Or am I just listening to the wrong ****? If there is anything new and exciting out there to which I am not privy please alert me to its presence.

	04-03-2005 21:12									#2
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Have you heard of the Village People? I just discovered them, and songs like YMCA and In the Navy truly bring rock to a new, fresh, 2005-esque level.

	04-03-2005 21:22									#3
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More seriously, here's my last mix:

1. Mclusky - Lightsabre Cocksucking Blues
2. flogging molly - screaming at the wailing wall
3. Bif Naked - The Peacock Song
4. The Vandals - Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
5. Dead Kennedys - Trust Your Mechanic
6. Les Cowboys Fringants - En Berne
7. Thee Headcoatees - Don't Wanna Hold Your Hand
8. The Black Halos - Some things never fall
9. Lars Frederiksen - Six Foot Five
10. Le Tigre - Riot Grrrl
11. Me First and the Gimme Gimmes - Auld Lang Syne
12. Makkabees - Maschiach
13. NoFX - What's the Matter with Parents
14. The Vandals - My Girlfriend's Dead
15. Rob Zombie - Feel So Numb
16. Lovecraft Choir - Carol of the Old Ones
17. Laibach - Jesus Christ Superstar
18. Fantômas - The Godfather
19. Tenacious D - Karate
20. Huun-Huur-Tu - Tuvan Internationale

Nothing particularly super-original. Sorry.

	04-03-2005 22:04									#4
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Its really sad how little good modern music there is

Its even sadder how little good modern music gets to Korea

	04-03-2005 22:07									#5
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quote: Its even sadder how little good modern music gets to Korea

	04-03-2005 22:24									#6
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: Its even sadder how little good modern music gets to Korea

You've never heard Korean radio
*shudders*

	04-03-2005 22:45									#7
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Radio is bad all over the world.
Get a lot of MP3's and turn on shuffle.

	04-03-2005 23:32									#8
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Ever listened to They Might Be Giants, they are... well, different from the mainstream.

	05-03-2005 00:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II Is rock becoming an orthodoxy?

becoming?

	05-03-2005 01:17									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Pave Ever listened to They Might Be Giants, they are... well, different from the mainstream.

TMBG

	05-03-2005 01:55									#11
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Arcade Fire

	05-03-2005 02:28									#12
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No Genesis album - this year sucks just like several previous ones and perhaps all the ones to come...

	05-03-2005 04:46									#13
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It depends on where you look for music. It also depends on what you're looking for. I don't think there's any stagnation in music if that's what you're trying to say. There are plenty of acts that play new and different music but there are also bands that emulate older styles - those older styles were obviously a success and they can still be successful.

For bands that are new and different you might try Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Pinback or Grandaddy. It might be that you're stuck in the same place musically or that you don't know where or how to look for the music you like. My advice is to find a band or bands you like and look for who they play with and who they or their fans listen to.

	05-03-2005 05:50									#14
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I've listened to the Velvet Underground's All Tomorrow's Parties over and over tonight.

I live under a rock.

	05-03-2005 06:20									#15
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Good song... but Nico's voice gets on my nerves.

Definitely heard of TMBG... I don't mind them at all...

Well, I will keep searching. I have noticed that a lot of bands are trying to sound overly simple... like a garage sound. If you ask me, you shouldn't make garage music unless you genuinely live in a garage. Maybe I'm being snobby and I don't realize that rock and roll is supposed to be atavistic. I guess some garage rock sounds good... but more often than not nowadays it just sounds like scraping a blackboard.

	05-03-2005 06:26									#16
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i like kpop.

	05-03-2005 06:27									#17
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i will admit though, that as music... as "art", it sucks.

	05-03-2005 06:34									#18
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I basically stopped listening to the radio or watching music TV stations, so I'm not too informed about current music. My only source now is the occasional visit to this place:
http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/luis...rpaalmain.shtml
Where I find a real gem every now and then. Like Dälek's latest album Absence.
... or earlier examples are albums by Air, Soulwax, Kelis, Gomez, Kaizers Orchestra and Electric Six too (haven't heard/seen their Radio Ga Ga yet, well, except when I saw them live 1.5 years ago).

Oh, and I'm enjoying St Leo's #20 too. Thanks.

	05-03-2005 06:37									#19
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what is kpop?

	05-03-2005 06:46									#20
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Korean Pop.

I give you four guesses to what jpop and cpop are.

	05-03-2005 07:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Arcade Fire

	05-03-2005 07:07									#22
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ah... thought it was the pop equivalent of kraut rock

	05-03-2005 08:57									#23
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haven't heard any 2005 music yet except for System of a Down's new song Cigaro. Sounds pretty cool. But it's a short song. Looking forward to their new album.

	05-03-2005 09:22									#24
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Can't wait for Springsteen: Devils and Dust

supposedly similar to Tom Joad.

	05-03-2005 09:26									#25
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If only Uriah Heep would release a new album.

	05-03-2005 09:30									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If only Uriah Heep would release a new album.

Yet again reality bites me in the arse

http://uriah-heep.com/newa/

If only I hadn't been so facetious

I can't believe they are still around. They must be the biggest prats in rock.

Note to self: make sure that pathetic prog-rock band is defunct before making them butt of sarcastic remark.

	05-03-2005 11:40									#27
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After awhile you stop buying new and different types of music. Usually it's just after college. So without any knowledge on the matter I'd say that music is dead. In fact the only music that I've heard lately that is at all interesting is country and stuff in commercials. No I didn't read a word in the thread.

	05-03-2005 15:02									#28
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You have to keep your finger on the pulse MH...

	05-03-2005 18:37									#29
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I still buy records... but I'm going back in time. The last new cd I bought was antics by Interpol... thoroughly disappointing. Oh and Ween's Quebec... I didn't mind that.

	05-03-2005 23:17									#30
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I hardly ever "buy" albums anymore. Once the bands I loved started putting out crappy records, I no longer buy them. Megadeth is one example.

I only buy albums from bands that are still good today (though that's debatable as you guys know I still like Metallica's new stuff ). Bands like Slayer just haven't been putting out good music. Though I did buy Diabolus in Musica. That wasn't a bad album. Just not as good as the stuff they put out in the 80's.